UFC 2010 Undisputed Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

[mikenoob]

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Also, does anybody else notice that you can transition block without doing anything? Try it. Go to ground then just let go of your controller. You'll block at least one transition.

That's part of the game. It's to make the game look more natural rather then just throw a punch and waste 10 seconds blocking to see if they attempt a transition or not.

[darlon]

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So what you're saying is that every time I get into a position on the ground, my first transition attempt will always be unsuccessful? That's ridiculous. I'll live with it but that's so dumb.

[filtertmp]

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Wow, Machida's takedown is too much. This is definitely a problem. I'm afraid to see what they have for GSP.

+1

I don't have as much a problem with his auto-takedown (without grapple block) against the CPU but against another human its like fighting GSP.. just constant takedowns because he is freakishly balanced to strike well and take people down at will.

I think I have more an issue with it at a conceptual level. Machida had done that sick judo-trip (did against thiago silva if I recall correctly) but as a fighter he is definitely closer to a striker (and an elite one) then a menacing takedown artist.

When I fight machida I want to have to protect my legs from kicks and watch out for lunging strikes and kicks. As it stands now he is more effective at takedowns then rashad, *especially* because there is no consequence for a failed takedown.. you throw him off and both end up at distance, as opposed to a failed double leg takedown which ends up with knees to the face or a dominant ground position.


between this and the omoplata escape by shogun I am worried that some of the 'unique moves' which give fighters character (think like nogs throw in 2009) might be a little unbalanced.

[darlon]

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Well now I don't know what triggers those auto transition blocks. I let Shogun take me down to side control and he mounted me on the first try then I gave up my back on the first try. Maybe it's only in guard since it's so hard to pass.

[TheShizNo1]

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Finally beat Machida!!!! Did it w/ Shogun using leg kicks sprinkled in w/ jabs and head kicks

[mikenoob]

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Well now I don't know what triggers those auto transition blocks. I let Shogun take me down to side control and he mounted me on the first try then I gave up my back on the first try. Maybe it's only in guard since it's so hard to pass.

No, it also effect half guard, side control, mount, etc. I know energy is a key factor. When the match just starts, it usually blocks 2 transitions and the 3rd works. Later on in the rounds though it becomes 1 or 2 blocked transitions and sometimes first try is successful.

[darlon]

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So what the hell does grapple block do?

[TheShizNo1]

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Def feels like expert is easier than advanced

[XFactah416]

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Def feels like expert is easier than advanced

Really? All this time I've been playing on Expert, haha.

Has anyone managed to get a sub? The ground game makes a lot of sense to me now and I actually get finishes on expert via GnP after posturing up.

My new mission is to get a sub. Even on beginner, I got mount on Rampage easily with Shogun, but then an armbar from mount didn't get it done. I read the FB FAQ, and it said to "gas" out your opponent.. well, how does that happen? The stamina bar seemingly recovers instanteously.

[darlon]

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Attack the body. Force him to try and transition. Only time I ever got a sub on a CPU was in last year's demo when I rocked the opponent. In last year's full version, it was so easy with all the transition happy noobs.

[mikenoob]

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So what the hell does grapple block do?

I think that's when you posture up and when they grab your head to bring it down to their chest, you use that to block. I'm not too sure about it though.

[JoeMimic]

I'm guessing and hoping a lot of these things will be toned down in the final build. The demo is made separate and not tested as much so I've heard. That's one of my biggest issues is the strategy aspect, it seems like all they try and do on the higher levels is go for a takedown. Rashad sure I understand but Shogun and Machida shoot so often it gets kind of ridiculous. Where are the flash subs? I don't understand how I can lock on a submission and within 2-3 seconds the CPU is out of it but they lock one on and I'm almost instantly tapping.

[darlon]

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On the action list, it's in every single ground position. This is ridiculous. Why even bother transition blocking when it's based on energy? You should be punished for not paying attention to someone trying to pass your guard or move into a much more advantageous position.

I'm fine with the fact that after only a few tries, the transition is successful. You can punish them with a reversal. But you shouldn't be able to prevent someone passing unless you YOURSELF is doing the preventing. Horrible.

Now that I think about it, the developers may have added that for the casual gamer who doesn't wanna bother learning all the commands. Maybe the exhibition fights are arcade mode by default and that's why the transitions are so stupid. I'll test this theory and hope to God I'm right.

[darlon]

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Nope, I was wrong. I immediately took Rampage down in Sim mode and blocked two transitions by giving 100% at doing absolutely nothing. Am I the only one who's really bothered by this?

[p_rushing]

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On the action list, it's in every single ground position. This is ridiculous. Why even bother transition blocking when it's based on energy? You should be punished for not paying attention to someone trying to pass your guard or move into a much more advantageous position.

I'm fine with the fact that after only a few tries, the transition is successful. You can punish them with a reversal. But you shouldn't be able to prevent someone passing unless you YOURSELF is doing the preventing. Horrible.

Now that I think about it, the developers may have added that for the casual gamer who doesn't wanna bother learning all the commands. Maybe the exhibition fights are arcade mode by default and that's why the transitions are so stupid. I'll test this theory and hope to God I'm right.

No, once again it is done by the game. They made it like this because the ratings actually matter now. In last year's game, ratings didn't really matter, it was all timing. Now you don't have to spam the transition block and sit there and throw 1 punch, block, throw 1 punch, block, transition, block, etc. Now you can focus on advancing position and doing damage. On defense, you can focus on reversing and blocking. If you want to manually block, you can still do that.