UFC 200

[Money99]

Re: UFC 200

Gawd, I love Connor McGregor.
Get him back on UFC 200 NOW.

[redsox4evur]

Re: UFC 200

Gawd, I love Connor McGregor.
Get him back on UFC 200 NOW.

By doing that you are opening a slippery slope.

[Money99]

Re: UFC 200

My 2 worthless cents on all of this.

I think Dana White and the UFC are terrified that MMA could turn into boxing where each fighter is an independent entity who will fight for the highest bidder.

He needs to keep his foot on the fighters collective throats in order to keep them in line and prevent a multi-promotional MMA world where Connor will fight for UFC in June, then Bellator in October.

That's why he's overly strict when it comes to this stuff and will easily sacrifice a giant cash-cow like McGregor if it means keeping the rest of the herd in line.

I really hope Dana works with McGregor and they can salvage UFC 200.
Even if Connor's figures are only 50% accurate, generating $200M over 8 months is nothing to scoff at.

[redsox4evur]

Re: UFC 200

My 2 worthless cents on all of this.

I think Dana White and the UFC are terrified that MMA could turn into boxing where each fighter is an independent entity who will fight for the highest bidder.

He needs to keep his foot on the fighters collective throats in order to keep them in line and prevent a multi-promotional MMA world where Connor will fight for UFC in June, then Bellator in October.

That's why he's overly strict when it comes to this stuff and will easily sacrifice a giant cash-cow like McGregor if it means keeping the rest of the herd in line.

I really hope Dana works with McGregor and they can salvage UFC 200.
Even if Connor's figures are only 50% accurate, generating $200M over 8 months is nothing to scoff at.

As stated before if you put Conor back on this card against Diaz normally, without an injury to Diaz or his opponent, that is a slippery slope. If you do that then other fighters will want to do the same thing. Skip all over the media obligations and just focus on training.

[Money99]

Re: UFC 200

As stated before if you put Conor back on this card against Diaz normally, without an injury to Diaz or his opponent, that is a slippery slope. If you do that then other fighters will want to do the same thing. Skip all over the media obligations and just focus on training.

There should be a middle ground though.
Why not just have 1 or 2 really big press conferences or media days?
Like Connor said, he shouldn't have to go on every Small Town radio station to promote the fight.
And honestly, when a fighter is as big as McGregor, is it necessary to advertise?

Dana needs to relax on the obligations for these fighters. It's better for everyone if they're rested and properly prepared as opposed to 'handing out flyers' all day.

[aholbert32]

Re: UFC 200

My 2 worthless cents on all of this.

I think Dana White and the UFC are terrified that MMA could turn into boxing where each fighter is an independent entity who will fight for the highest bidder.

He needs to keep his foot on the fighters collective throats in order to keep them in line and prevent a multi-promotional MMA world where Connor will fight for UFC in June, then Bellator in October.

That's why he's overly strict when it comes to this stuff and will easily sacrifice a giant cash-cow like McGregor if it means keeping the rest of the herd in line.

I really hope Dana works with McGregor and they can salvage UFC 200.
Even if Connor's figures are only 50% accurate, generating $200M over 8 months is nothing to scoff at.

This. The only difference is the UFC has 90 percent of the talent so its hard to schedule multiple fights without them involved and they dont cross promote.

I dont think they need McGregor to "salvage" 200. Will they make 1.7 million ppv buys without him....no. But adding a replacement card or two could get them to 1 million buys which is more than a success.

[redsox4evur]

Re: UFC 200

There should be a middle ground though.
Why not just have 1 or 2 really big press conferences or media days?
Like Connor said, he shouldn't have to go on every Small Town radio station to promote the fight.
And honestly, when a fighter is as big as McGregor, is it necessary to advertise?

Dana needs to relax on the obligations for these fighters. It's better for everyone if they're rested and properly prepared as opposed to 'handing out flyers' all day.

I agree with you and Conor. LOL. I was just stating the other side to it.

[aholbert32]

Re: UFC 200

There should be a middle ground though.
Why not just have 1 or 2 really big press conferences or media days?
Like Connor said, he shouldn't have to go on every Small Town radio station to promote the fight.
And honestly, when a fighter is as big as McGregor, is it necessary to advertise?

Dana needs to relax on the obligations for these fighters. It's better for everyone if they're rested and properly prepared as opposed to 'handing out flyers' all day.

Dont believe everything you hear.

They only have 2 PCs scheduled for 200. Thats it and he is missing the first one.

Conor hasnt had to "hand out flyers" in over a year. He hasnt done radio in over a year since the Siver fight. He is overstating his obligations. I also think he doesnt want to be in the same room as Frankie, Aldo and Diaz. As great of a talker as he is, its hard to defend the fact that he refused to defend the belt against Frankie and lost to Diaz.

[DieHardYankee26]

Re: UFC 200

I just think it's funny. They let this dude do whatever he wanted, taking the champion's belt at a press conference (then Dana holds back Aldo and makes no attempt to chill Conor out) and getting mad when somebody punked him the same way (punching Nate's hand after he put the stance on him at the press conference) and now he doesn't understand why he can't do what he wants.



It's like Benson said: "If you raise your kids a certain way, they'll act a certain way."

[The JareBear]

Re: UFC 200

Dont believe everything you hear.

They only have 2 PCs scheduled for 200. Thats it and he is missing the first one.

Conor hasnt had to "hand out flyers" in over a year. He hasnt done radio in over a year since the Siver fight. He is overstating his obligations. I also think he doesnt want to be in the same room as Frankie, Aldo and Diaz. As great of a talker as he is, its hard to defend the fact that he refused to defend the belt against Frankie and lost to Diaz.

ahhhh, very interesting take

I hadn't thought of it like that. Definitely a real possibility

[BDKiiing]

Re: UFC 200

So anyone who loses shouldn't have to promote their next fight?

They should love it. If the UFC folds, they can skip press conferences too.

That's not the case at all. What other fighter has been the draw Conor has been? Mighty Mouse will want to skip a presser, that ****er can't draw a dime despite being so good. Conor is well past Ronda's level of a draw and attention to the sport. Conor drew more attention to the 200 card with his retirement tweet. Call me a "Conor stan" all you want, but the fact of the matter is, he is above the UFC. He's a license to print money. I'm not saying let him skip every press event, but work with him to get them done on times that work for him. UFC created the monster that is Conor McGregor, now they have to deal with it if they want to keep making money with him.

[aholbert32]

Re: UFC 200

That's not the case at all. What other fighter has been the draw Conor has been? Mighty Mouse will want to skip a presser, that ****er can't draw a dime despite being so good. Conor is well past Ronda's level of a draw and attention to the sport. Conor drew more attention to the 200 card with his retirement tweet. Call me a "Conor stan" all you want, but the fact of the matter is, he is above the UFC. He's a license to print money. I'm not saying let him skip every press event, but work with him to get them done on times that work for him. UFC created the monster that is Conor McGregor, now they have to deal with it if they want to keep making money with him.

Ronda
GSP
Nick Diaz
Brock
Anderson
Holly Holm
Rashad Evans
Weidman

All of them have done PPVs with over a million buys. They are all people who could arguably make the same demands as Conor. Conor is a superstar but he's a superstar because of the UFC brand.

He brings the goods are press conferences and in the ring but he wouldnt have those opportunities without the UFC. He knows this. Thats why he's not demanding to get out of his contract.

I'm tired of the "the UFC should work with Conor" stuff. They have worked with him. They gave him the Diaz fight in Jan. when they initially wanted it to be Frankie Edgar. They gave him the Diaz rematch even though no one was demanding a rematch and pretty much everyone thinks he will lose again.

They gave him weeks of notice about the press conference. If he knew he was going to be in Iceland, he shouldve told Zuffa that he couldnt make that PC and the commercial shoot weeks ago. He chose to not come this week.

[BDKiiing]

Re: UFC 200

Ronda
GSP
Nick Diaz
Brock
Anderson
Holly Holm
Rashad Evans
Weidman

And other than Ronda, who's brought attention to the UFC anywhere near Conor's level? GSP and Spider were great and all, but no chance they brought the buzz that Conor did. Brock, maybe, other than that none of those guys come close to doing what Conor has done in terms of creating a buzz and bringing in money for the company. Casual fans or people who aren't a fan of the sport know Conor and Ronda from that list, that's about it.

[DieHardYankee26]

Re: UFC 200

Frankie turned down the Conor fight because he was hurt, that wasn't Conor throwing his weight around

[aholbert32]

Re: UFC 200

Frankie turned down the Conor fight because he was hurt, that wasn't Conor throwing his weight around

That was my screwup. I meant to say Cowboy not Frankie.