The OS WWE 'Dirt' Thread

[DJ]

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Boy the WWE has no long term planning. Ugh.

I think they do have long-term planning (Cena-Rock, HBK-Taker II, etc.) but the thing that hurts them is that certain people have a knack for changing their minds, oh, every 5 minutes. That turns long-term plans into a short-term scramble, and the result is often what we wind up watching on TV.

[TheShizNo1]

I think they do have long-term planning (Cena-Rock, HBK-Taker II, etc.) but the thing that hurts them is that certain people have a knack for changing their minds, oh, every 5 minutes. That turns long-term plans into a short-term scramble, and the result is often what we wind up watching on TV.

So......you're saying he was right? Lol

[DJ]

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So......you're saying he was right? Lol

Mostly ... there are some instances where they do have a clear long-term plan, but most of the time they are flying by the seat of their pants.

[philliesfan136]

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In response to back-to-back attacks by World Heavyweight Champion Alberto Del Rio on No. 1 contender Big Show, SmackDown General Manager Booker T announced Tuesday night that he has suspended the Mexican grappler from this week's SmackDown.

“Following the incidents last Friday on SmackDown as well as this week on Raw,” Booker told WWE.com, “it is my duty as GM to suspend Alberto Del Rio. He will not be in action this Friday night and will not be in the building.”

WWE teased in the announcement: "While there is no question these latest developments will make a profound impression on this week’s edition of the blue brand, one has wonder how it will affect the upcoming World Title Match between Del Rio and The World’s Largest No. 1 contender at Elimination Chamber."

Big Show's attacks on Ricardo = no punishment
Del Rio's backfires = suspension

Damn you Big Show, and your iron-clad contract.

[TimmeH]

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Well. Had the Rock not been coming back to face Punk at RR, The Ryback should have won the title.

The Ryback - Rock would not be nearly as good as Punk - Rock (which wasn't great) so keeping it on Punk was the right idea. The Ryback should have won though, in a world where it wasn't pre-planned for the Rock to come back. I think the RAW was in Sacramento where the crowd was popping so loud for The Ryback that the cameras were shaking. The dude was massively over.

WWE has enough talent in-house to put on good matches with Ryback for the belt so that's not the issue. I know it's the internet and we're supposed to say that nobody but Ziggler/Punk/Bryan/Barrett/Cesaro/Sandow deserve to be featured, but he had the crowd behind him like none other. You can't avoid that.

I know I'm backtracking slightly here...

Regardless of the plans for Dwayne, I still think Ryback should have won the title initially.

WWE is in a position where they really need to make stars. Having Ryback end Punk's 300+day reign at HIAC would have been a great way to build him a credible threat to the title. Whereas Dwayne ending that reign does NOTHING for the title or the future of the company.

Obviously Dwayne-Punk is a better matchup and will get more buys for Royal Rumble. Ryback's reign could have just been a short transitional run. Ryback wins the title at HIAC with a slightly disputable yet clean finish, Punk gets the title back in the rematch via Maddux, and successfully retains the title in Ryback's rematch via Shield. Then Punk vs Dwayne begins for Rumble while Ryback goes for the Shield.

"Transitional" reigns can serve a purpose of building a new star. They were great for Edge and Foley. I still think Umaga should have gotten a short transitional reign when he feuded with Cena for the title a few years ago. Instead he got buried by Cena and Lashley basically back-to-back and it killed all his momentum. Luckily for Ryback, facing Jericho/Show at Mania won't give him that same result.



Not to mention, I'd be alot less pissed off with the WWE's direction as Punk's year long reign wouldn't have been wasted on a 12-appearance-a-year-part-time-superstar-via-satillite, rather used to put over someone who could be a future star for the company

[philliesfan136]

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NXT tryouts:

- The WWE tryouts at NXT this past weekend were described as grueling as hell and very physical. One wrestler noted that it was the toughest time of his life.

One talent who paid to be in the tryouts quit in the middle of the first day. There were between 10 and 14 injuries suffered over the weekend and a source noted that most of the guys that got hurt were non-wrestling guys who came in thinking they were tough.

No word yet on who will be offered deals but officials at the tryouts said they would be making offers in 2-4 weeks.

Popular wrestlers who attended the tryouts include ROH TV Champion Adam Cole, Maria's boyfriend Mike Bennett, DGUSA star Samuray del Sol, independent star Ricky Reyes, Northeastern wrestler Smith James and Luke Hawx from Extreme Rising. There was talk that Sami Callihan was there but that's not confirmed yet.

[Redacted01]

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They didn't record it and show it as another season of Tough Enough!!

[GnarlyKing]

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Not to mention, I'd be alot less pissed off with the WWE's direction as Punk's year long reign wouldn't have been wasted on a 12-appearance-a-year-part-time-superstar-via-satillite, rather used to put over someone who could be a future star for the company

I agree with this. It was built up into such a huge thing that they really had an opportunity to make a star out of the guy who ended it. Instead, they gave it to a guy who doesn't need it. Which again would be semi-acceptable and possibly even work out better, considering the fact that he's still a huge star, if virtually anybody other than the guy who needs the rub least was going to be the guy to turn around and beat him for it.

If they had Ryback win the Rumble and had him beat Rock at Mania, that would've done even more to make a new star than having him hold the belt for a month or 2 in the fall would have. But no, we have to ruin a potentially great thing to have the rematch no one wanted just so Cena can rebound and get even.

[King_B_Mack]

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You know the thought that just occured to me. I think we're about to get the John Cena heel turn everybody has been after. They're setting up for a Wrestlemania 17 here. All this Cena's terrible year, putting the title on The Rock, the Ryback push. Seems like they're setting up Cena to play the role of Stone Cold who will be so desperate to win back the title and beat Rock/Punk that he'll abandon all his morals and literally do anything to win.

[ubernoob]

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You know the thought that just occured to me. I think we're about to get the John Cena heel turn everybody has been after. They're setting up for a Wrestlemania 17 here. All this Cena's terrible year, putting the title on The Rock, the Ryback push. Seems like they're setting up Cena to play the role of Stone Cold who will be so desperate to win back the title and beat Rock/Punk that he'll abandon all his morals and literally do anything to win.

Wishful thinking. I'd love to see it happen, but we're beyond hope for Cena right now.

[GnarlyKing]

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I agree that it's wishful thinking. Although that's about the only way to make this interesting right now.

[MachoMyers]

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Then Cena vs Ryback feud. I will take that!

[ChaseB]

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You know the thought that just occured to me. I think we're about to get the John Cena heel turn everybody has been after. They're setting up for a Wrestlemania 17 here. All this Cena's terrible year, putting the title on The Rock, the Ryback push. Seems like they're setting up Cena to play the role of Stone Cold who will be so desperate to win back the title and beat Rock/Punk that he'll abandon all his morals and literally do anything to win.

Let's not forget that Austin turn was pretty crap. Could have been okay if Trips doesn't die, but it never really caught on like everyone hoped. If you do that event over, I think Austin even said I should have hit McMahon with the chair after the match ended -- showing he used Vince but then clobbered him again anyway.

Now, with Cena it probably comes off a bit better, but Austin/McMahon had just been at each other's throats for too long and Austin was just too over to get too many boos.

[DJ]

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Let's not forget that Austin turn was pretty crap. Could have been okay if Trips doesn't die, but it never really caught on like everyone hoped. If you do that event over, I think Austin even said I should have hit McMahon with the chair after the match ended -- showing he used Vince but then clobbered him again anyway.

Now, with Cena it probably comes off a bit better, but Austin/McMahon had just been at each other's throats for too long and Austin was just too over to get too many boos.

Yeah, Austin has said if he could go he'd call an audible in the ring and hit McMahon with a Stunner.

[TheShizNo1]

Yeah, Austin has said if he could go he'd call an audible in the ring and hit McMahon with a Stunner.

Austin as a heel just didn't fit. It was nice to see his character evolve though.