The OS WWE 'Dirt' Thread

[TheShizNo1]

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Taker versus Sting/Lesnar
Daniel Bryan versus HHH
Punk versus Cena

That'd be such a perfect Wrestlemania.

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[OSUFan_88]

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Meh. Still want Undertaker vs Bryan with Bryan winning.

[PVarck31]

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Taker versus Sting/Lesnar
Daniel Bryan versus HHH
Punk versus Cena

That'd be such a perfect Wrestlemania.

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I'm totally fine with Bryan vs HHH. As long as Bryan wins. But there is no way he will win the title at Extreme Rules because there is no way they will only keep the title on Batista for a month. I would rather not even see him get a title match again if he is just gonna lose.

So that leaves the question of what the hell to do with him.

Now if he faces Taker at WM and wins, it will be legendary. Then he could feud with HHH under the premise of HHH saying it wasn't what was best for business or someone like him should have never broken the streak or whatever, for a couple of PPV's then take the title off Batista at MitB or SS.

Just spitballing

[TheShizNo1]

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Meh. Still want Undertaker vs Bryan with Bryan winning.

I only want that if it's not possible for him to take on HHH.

I wouldn't even mind him facing Randy because they have pretty good chemistry. Batista being there screws everything up.

If I was handed the keys to WWE, I'd pay him to stay home or use him as my emergency monster in case Brock leaves and Henry never gets healthy.

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[IlliniM1ke]

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I'm totally fine with Bryan vs HHH. As long as Bryan wins. But there is no way he will win the title at Extreme Rules because there is no way they will only keep the title on Batista for a month. I would rather not even see him get a title match again if he is just gonna lose.

With Extreme Rules being in Seattle I can't imagine them even giving him a title shot if he wasn't gonna win, they would riot if he lost to Batista. Hard to imagine Batista getting a one month reign but with Bryan's momentum and the location they might be forced into it.

[DonkeyJote]

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I think fans are often just very impatient. People complain that they don't do slow builds, but when they do, people still complain. There is little doubt in my mind Bryan will be champion again soon. But because it's not happening right away, people are turning on it. The feud with the Wyatts did a lot for Bryan. I think the crowd is even more behind him now than they were 6 months ago.

Right now, whether Bryan is champion or not, he's the #1 guy. Him and Cena clear the ring, who's music plays? Bryan's. How many main event segments has Batista been in so far? Zero. Bryan has been the focus of the show again since the beginning of January. He's been in one of the top two storylines 7 months now straight. Can we stop the illusion that he's not getting a fair crack, and isn't respected because his character isn't holding a fictional championship?

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[TheShizNo1]

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Gonna continue to beat that dead horse, huh?

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[SmashMan]

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I only want that if it's not possible for him to take on HHH.

I wouldn't even mind him facing Randy because they have pretty good chemistry. Batista being there screws everything up.

Bryan vs. Orton would be great. The matches in their mini-feud before Orton turned heel were really good and it would come full circle from Summerslam. Bryan vs. Triple H is also good. I think Punk and Triple H could tell a good story here if that was the plan.

This also could have been fixed if Batista came back as douche heel Batista. Win title at Rumble in triple threat with Orton and Cena, spin it as Authority bringing him back to be their face of the company...Bryan wins Rumble and goes on to face Batista at Mania. There are so many ways they could have gone to achieve the "right" result (in terms of making their audience happy).

It's mind-blowing that they seem(ed?) to think Orton vs. Batista would be a draw to main event WrestleMania 30. Insane.

[PVarck31]

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How many main event segments has Batista been in so far?

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He's been back for less than 2 weeks and he has already won the Royal Rumble and is in the main event of Wrestlemania.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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I think fans are often just very impatient. People complain that they don't do slow builds, but when they do, people still complain. There is little doubt in my mind Bryan will be champion again soon. But because it's not happening right away, people are turning on it. The feud with the Wyatts did a lot for Bryan. I think the crowd is even more behind him now than they were 6 months ago.

Right now, whether Bryan is champion or not, he's the #1 guy. Him and Cena clear the ring, who's music plays? Bryan's. How many main event segments has Batista been in so far? Zero. Bryan has been the focus of the show again since the beginning of January. He's been in one of the top two storylines 7 months now straight. Can we stop the illusion that he's not getting a fair crack, and isn't respected because his character isn't holding a fictional championship?

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Responses to the bolded

1. Not true
2. They don't, especially in recent memory.
3. That's not the reason people are turning on it.
4. You're right, he's been in zero. Yet, he's only been back 2 weeks and is headlining Wrestlemania. Don't you see the problem with that? It's not Dwayne bad...but it's definitely up there.

[kingkilla56]

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Which is ridiculous on their part. I know a lot of time we like guys the masses have never even heard of. But they are on a whole new level of crap here.

Everyone knows who Daniel Bryan is, and everyone wants him to be THE guy. The roof blows off the arena when Dolph's music hits, but he's a mid-carder. Lets see what they do with Cesaro since it looks like he might be getting a nudge. But that happens all the time and whoever it is, is back at the bottom.

I think most people realize that Batista getting put in the main event at WM is pretty much crap. Even those who love him. I think people would rather see Cena.

I think an arena full of fans is a pretty good sample size of what your fan base really wants. And if you go by the crowds lately its pretty clear. So they aren't just messing with the IWC.

CM Punk freakin quit lol. I mean damn. How out of touch can these guys be?

I think the fans are ready for a mutiny and they need to adapt. They have a perfect opportunity to potentially start a new era.

I just hope the fans keep this up until they/we get what they/we want.

The thing is, if you arent in the old boys club you just wont be pushed how you deserve to be. I don't care what stories they have done to push a little guy, when it all comes to a head, the same guys will be put over time and time again. Its like Vince H Steph sit around in a think tank consisting of only themselves and they think of the show they want to put on to entertain themselves. "You know what would be great? If Dave came back and headlined Mania 30, I'd love to see that" "Lets have Billy and Dogg come back and in 3 weeks win the tag titles! Oh boy that would be great to see!" "Lets put all the belts on Randy, he would look so sexy with all that gold, those fans will have to love that!".

The funny thing about that club is I dont think Cena is a part of it. Its like his popularity and star is to the point where HHH would NEVER get clearance to bury him (even though they kind of are recently which I dont mind so much). Its like Cena has a forcefield around him where he gets old boys club privevlages without being in it. You know damn well HHH would have Orton be the mega star Cena is if he could.

Cena reminds me of the Rock when he was hot. No matter what HHH and his boys club could do, they just could never bury Rocky. Thats how grandiose his name is, Cena's name is.

CM Punk ****ing quit his job because he saw this. He was never gonna be in the old boys club and would never get instant headlining Mania privileges, Bryan will have to wait till after Mania to get his. its all a big sad joke to me. You'd have to be a blind WWE fan not to see these patterns of H and his boys taking over all the time.

Just think of this. HHH supposedly put major resources building the tag division. And was willing to completely destroy it, handing the belts to two Medicare Outlaws on their third week back. Do you realize how many guys got skipped over for those belts in that one action? I mean seriously.

I think fans are often just very impatient. People complain that they don't do slow builds, but when they do, people still complain. There is little doubt in my mind Bryan will be champion again soon. But because it's not happening right away, people are turning on it. The feud with the Wyatts did a lot for Bryan. I think the crowd is even more behind him now than they were 6 months ago.

Right now, whether Bryan is champion or not, he's the #1 guy. Him and Cena clear the ring, who's music plays? Bryan's. How many main event segments has Batista been in so far? Zero. Bryan has been the focus of the show again since the beginning of January. He's been in one of the top two storylines 7 months now straight. Can we stop the illusion that he's not getting a fair crack, and isn't respected because his character isn't holding a fictional championship?

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Of course Bryan will be champion again. But the point is they are stifling his push because they don't want it to happen at Mania. I think its obvious they plan on him winning it back eventually, but they dont want it to happen at the biggest stage of them all. Mania 30 is a BIG FREAKING DEAL so naturally HHH wants all his guys at the top of his card. I want to emphasize, HIS card.

[philliesfan136]

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- Randy Orton cut promo before his match with John Cena at last night's WWE live event in Orlando and said a line that had many fans thinking he took a shot at CM Punk leaving. Orton said, "If at first you don't succeed, quit."

- The CM Punk situation is personally being handled by Vince McMahon himself, as opposed to Triple H or WWE's Talent Relations department.

WWE officials are not happy at all about the story getting out and there being a big deal publicly. The hope was to keep it as an internal issue and deal with it within the company.

There were meeting with the WWE creative team all last week discussing WrestleMania XXX plans if Punk does not return, as well what to do with him if he does come back. The meetings were not as a result of Punk walking out specifically but also a by-product of fans rejecting segments and the reaction for Daniel Bryan at the Royal Rumble. A source noted that "anything is possible" at this point in regards to the WrestleMania XXX card and nothing should be considered official or locked in with the exception of John Cena vs. Bray Wyatt.

why are those Orton/Cena matches still going on at tapings? Does Batista do TV tapings?

[SmashMan]

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Just think of this. HHH supposedly put major resources building the tag division. And was willing to completely destroy it, handing the belts to two Medicare Outlaws on their third week back. Do you realize how many guys got skipped over for those belts in that one action? I mean seriously.

To be fair to this point, a lot of guys got skipped over when they had Team Hell No and the Shield holding the belts too. Rhodes Scholars, Primetime Players, and Usos should have all been champions at some point. I'd even argue that having Outlaws as champs isn't a bad idea if the point was to help build the Authority-takeover story. Problem is that it should have happened earlier to give them enough time to build a storyline for some team to dethrone them.

Of course Bryan will be champion again. But the point is they are stifling his push because they don't want it to happen at Mania. I think its obvious they plan on him winning it back eventually, but they dont want it to happen at the biggest stage of them all. Mania 30 is a BIG FREAKING DEAL so naturally HHH wants all his guys at the top of his card. I want to emphasize, HIS card.

This I pretty much agree with, aside from specifically singling out Triple H. Vince's power might be slowly shifting to others, but he still has enough say that at the end of the day if he really wanted Daniel Bryan (or Punk, or even JTG) in the main event, they would be.

Bryan will be champion again, no doubt, and it's dumb that the argument keeps getting shifted to "Well, people are just pissed because he's not champ." This isn't people whining about instant gratification, it's people whining that this storyline with Batista coming in derailed things because it just makes no ****ing sense.

Daniel Bryan winning the title in his home state at Extreme Rules is a great personal statement, but it's not the same company statement that would be made if he were to win it at WrestleMania...which is the story they've been writing since August.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Punk leaving might not be THE reason they're having these meetings but I guarantee Bryan getting these types of reactions well before the Rumble played a big part in having them.

Please don't insult our intelligence like this, WWE. Even though you've managed to do that a few times over the last few years.

[TheShizNo1]

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Greatest work ever or biggest **** up ever for wrestling.

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