AEW Off-Topic

[dubcity]

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Kevin Kelly likely done with AEW.

Seems he wasn't happy with his role in the company and sent out tweets about it over the weekend. Either he quit or they let him go.

I was afraid of that. Some social/political differences playing out in public, seems like. They've made some weird decisions when it comes to the commentary on Collision in general.

[dubcity]

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Okada made it rain indeed, Toyko Sports says he signed a 3 year deal with AEW worth $13.5M which comes out to $4.5M annually. No way WWE was going to try to match that, TK definitely overpaying to keep people from going to WWE.



Wonder what the numbers will be for Mercedes' contract.

That doesn't seem like an unreasonable amount in 2024. WWE should be paying talent at that level tbh.

[UFCMPunk]

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That doesn't seem like an unreasonable amount in 2024. WWE should be paying talent at that level tbh.

Yeah it's not too bad, I guess it's similar to when you see NFL free agents sign a big contract and at first it's like, that's a lot of money. Then once you break it down by annual average and stuff then you realize it's not as bad as the overall number suggests.

From what I've read, most WWE stars are paid well, your top stars make around what Okada is getting. With some top stars due up for new contracts(Rollins, McIntyre, Becky, etc) they likely will have much higher pay. Obviously we have seen Bayley and Charlotte re-sign with the company already, but going to be interesting to see how Endeavour values certain talent or if they let just let Triple H and Nick Khan throw out a number and they just write the check.

[DonkeyJote]

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Really disliked Kevin Kelly on commentary, so not a huge loss in my eyes.

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[Majingir]

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You also don't know what their hope for Okada is as well.

Does he also help bring in some big tv deal in Japan? A future AEW PPV in the Tokyo Dome?

[DonkeyJote]

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He's arguably the best professional wrestler on the planet. I think they're hoping that him being in the US full time will lead to him being a huge star domestically for AEW, not just as a connection to Japan.

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[dubcity]

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I think they've had the best roster by far for a while now, from a workrate and promo standpoint, but they just need to bring the entertainment and intrigue like they used to. It's the balance that Cody brought when he was there. Storylines need time to breath and develop. It can't be just "let's have this awesome match, then that one, then that one," etc. But they are serving multiple masters with weekly TV ratings, trying to build up to big matches on PPVs, and bringing in new people all the time. I don't know how they go from where they are now back to being hot on TV every week. Okada won't do that. Neither will Mercedes.

[voodoo_magic]

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I've been with AEW from the start but there's one thing that is really starting to turn me off from watching.
They seem to do everything that is normally reserved for ppv's including a million false finishes and all their crazy moves on Dynamite.
A perfect example of this is the Ospreay v Fletcher main event on Dynamite.
A great match no doubt with a lot of talent shown off.

However there are a couple problems they create by doing this.
First, on the upcoming main events if they just have regular good solid matches they won't look as good by comparison, and if the matches are slower paced with less crazy moves they might even look bad.
Second, on their ppv's if Ospreay is wrestling Fletcher or even someone else how do they top their tv show?
I suppose they could drop each other on their heads 10 times instead of 5 like on Dynamite lol.

Similar to how they have been using Moxley for the most part. Bleeding every week on tv and having these wars and then when they do the ppv it's a feeling of the same old thing even if it's something that should be pretty cool compared to WWE.
It kind of feels like everyone is out to do as many crazy moves as they can in their match and it could be a booking problem. Instead of building a show with some special spots it's week after week of the same crazy moves making it less special and even boring to watch.

I understand how being the new company they wanted to make an impression so they went overboard with anything and everything they could try but now I hope they slowly reign back the way their matches are put together and pace themselves.

[Majingir]

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I've been with AEW from the start but there's one thing that is really starting to turn me off from watching.

They seem to do everything that is normally reserved for ppv's including a million false finishes and all their crazy moves on Dynamite.

A perfect example of this is the Ospreay v Fletcher main event on Dynamite.

A great match no doubt with a lot of talent shown off.



However there are a couple problems they create by doing this.

First, on the upcoming main events if they just have regular good solid matches they won't look as good by comparison, and if the matches are slower paced with less crazy moves they might even look bad.

Second, on their ppv's if Ospreay is wrestling Fletcher or even someone else how do they top their tv show?

I suppose they could drop each other on their heads 10 times instead of 5 like on Dynamite lol.



Similar to how they have been using Moxley for the most part. Bleeding every week on tv and having these wars and then when they do the ppv it's a feeling of the same old thing even if it's something that should be pretty cool compared to WWE.

It kind of feels like everyone is out to do as many crazy moves as they can in their match and it could be a booking problem. Instead of building a show with some special spots it's week after week of the same crazy moves making it less special and even boring to watch.



I understand how being the new company they wanted to make an impression so they went overboard with anything and everything they could try but now I hope they slowly reign back the way their matches are put together and pace themselves.

That's why when people rip some things about WWE like them not having full shows of wrestling or some guys competing once or twice a month if even that, I don't mind it.

It makes when they do compete feel more special because it's not just another tv match just with no commercial breaks.

[dubcity]

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There's a certain group of people who will love watching those fast-forward spotfest matches every single week. How big that group is, idk. And critics will always praise those matches with 5 stars, even if they are happening in front of 1000 people. Great promos and angles will always outdraw all of that tho. That's what Cody brought, and all of the Elite stuff. Jericho can also add it. They need more of that.

[Majingir]

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There's a certain group of people who will love watching those fast-forward spotfest matches every single week. How big that group is, idk. And critics will always praise those matches with 5 stars, even if they are happening in front of 1000 people. Great promos and angles will always outdraw all of that tho. That's what Cody brought, and all of the Elite stuff. Jericho can also add it. They need more of that.

By critics you mean Meltzer.

The same Meltzer who claimed half the Revolution card was borderline 5 star matches.


Unfortunately, seems like Tony caters to the Meltzers of the world and dirtsheets and cagematches.net of the Internet.

[DonkeyJote]

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There's a certain group of people who will love watching those fast-forward spotfest matches every single week. How big that group is, idk. And critics will always praise those matches with 5 stars, even if they are happening in front of 1000 people. Great promos and angles will always outdraw all of that tho. That's what Cody brought, and all of the Elite stuff. Jericho can also add it. They need more of that.

I liked the Elite stuff, and I like Cody in WWE. But the Cody stuff in AEW was mostly awful imo.

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[Majingir]

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AEW seems to have interest in Shelton Benjamin.

Don't know what role he'll serve, maybe just doing what they've had Matt Hardy do for the longest while?

Nobody tell Michin. Benjamin on the same show as Keith Lee, she'll freak.

[DonkeyJote]

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AEW seems to have interest in Shelton Benjamin.

Don't know what role he'll serve, maybe just doing what they've had Matt Hardy do for the longest while?

Nobody tell Michin. Benjamin on the same show as Keith Lee, she'll freak.

Probably something like RVD where he comes in every once in a while as a someone with notoriety for someone else to beat.

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[Majingir]

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We've already seen Sammy get suspended again, now Max Caster is running his mouth on social media again.

Guys just don't learn do they? If it's one time things that's different, but when the same guys are the ones every few months getting in trouble for similar reasons, something has to be done eventually. Up to management to talk to them and get them to straighten up or else, can't just be friends with everyone and let things slide.


Max claiming he was hacked. So a hacker got into his account and started replying to dozens and dozens of people in his mentions?