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  • doncoryell
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    • Jan 2003
    • 7560

    #61
    Lifetime Rankings thru 1907

    Code:
    Career Batting Average           Career Hits
    (min 1073 PA)
    No  Player              AVG      No  Player              HITS
     1  R.HARTZELL         .3491      1  [i]B.Hamilton          2644[/i]
     2  [i]E.Delahanty        .3475[/i]      2  [i]E.Delahanty         2584[/i]
     3  [i]J.Burkett          .3406[/i]      3  [i]W.Keeler            2514[/i]
     4  [i]W.Keeler           .3403[/i]      4  [i]J.Beckley           2510[/i]
     5  [i]Z.Harvey           .3352[/i]      5  [i]G.Davis             2499[/i]
     6  N.LAJOIE           .3269      6  [i]J.Burkett           2479[/i]
     7  [i]B.Hart             .3262[/i]      7  J.KELLEY            2352
     8  D.FULTZ            .3217      8  F.CLARKE            2331
     9  J.MCGRAW           .3199      9  [i]G.Van Haltren       2301[/i]
    10  H.WAGNER           .3189     10  N.LAJOIE            2251
    11  H.DUFFY            .3183     11  H.DUFFY             2055
    12  B.GILBERT          .3178     12  [i]B.Dahlen            2013[/i]
    13  J.KELLEY           .3176     13  [i]P.Donovan           1906[/i]
    14  M.DONLIN           .3150     14  [i]C.Childs            1901[/i]
    15  H.BAY              .3139     15  F.TENNEY            1861
    16  C.STAHL            .3127     16  [i]S.Brodie            1819[/i]
    17  L.SCHLAFLY         .3126     17  [i]L.Cross             1795[/i]  
    18  E.FLICK            .3121     18  [i]D.Hoy               1793[/i]
    19  [i]J.Beckley          .3118[/i]     19  C.STAHL             1787
    20  [i]G.Van Haltren      .3110[/i]     20  T.DOWD              1783
    21  [i]E.Smith            .3103[/i]     21  H.WAGNER            1781
    22  B.COUGHLIN         .3101     22  [i]J.Quinn             1733[/i]
    22  [i]B.Hamilton         .3101[/i]     23  B.WALLACE           1719
    24  [i]B.Everett          .3097[/i]     24  [i]H.Long              1701[/i]
    25  O.CLYMER           .3087     25  [i]H.Jennings          1667[/i]
    
    Career Homeruns                  Career RBIs
    No  Player               HR      No  Player               RBI
     1  [i]E.Delahanty         109[/i]       1  [i]E.Delahanty         1448[/i]
     2  H.DUFFY              94       2  [i]G.Davis             1317[/i]
     3  [i]H.Long               83[/i]       3  [i]J.Beckley           1302[/i]
     4  N.LAJOIE             79       4  H.DUFFY             1197
     5  [i]B.Dahlen             75[/i]       5  J.KELLEY            1178
     5  [i]B.Freeman            75[/i]       6  N.LAJOIE            1059
     7  [i]J.Beckley            70[/i]       7  [i]B.Dahlen             978[/i]
     8  [i]G.Davis              69[/i]       8  [i]S.Brodie             945[/i]
     9  [i]B.Lowe               68[/i]       9  [i]W.Keeler             940[/i]
    10  [i]J.Burkett            61[/i]      10  F.CLARKE             925
    10  J.KELLEY             61      11  [i]L.Cross              912[/i]
    10  P.FOSTER             61      12  [i]G.Van Haltren        900[/i]
    10  J.KELLEY             61      13  [i]J.Burkett            898[/i]
    14  [i]J.Collins            58[/i]      14  [i]H.Long               860[/i]
    15  [i]G.Van Haltren        55[/i]      15  [i]B.Hamilton           857[/i]
    16  M.DONLIN             53      16  [i]H.Jennings           855[/i]
    17  S.CRAWFORD           52      17  H.WAGNER             849 
    18  [i]T.Daly               51[/i]      18  [i]B.Lowe               845[/i]
    19  C.HICKMAN            50      19  [i]J.Collins            844[/i]
    20  M.GRADY              49      20  [i]J.Quinn              802[/i]
    21  E.FLICK              46      21  [i]C.Childs             796[/i]
    22  [i]B.Hamilton           45[/i]      22  F.TENNEY             792
    22  H.WAGNER             45      23  B.WALLACE            791
    24  J.ANDERSON           44      24  [i]J.Doyle              784[/i]
    25  J.WILLIAMS           43      25  [i]D.Farrell            782[/i]
    
    
    
    Career Stolen Bases
    No  Player               SB
     1  [i]B.Hamilton         1133[/i]
     2  F.CLARKE            701
     3  [i]G.Davis             551[/i]
     4  J.MCGRAW            543
     5  [i]W.Keeler            539[/i]
     6  J.KELLEY            528
     7  [i]D.Hoy               510[/i]
     8  [i]G.Van Haltren       478[/i]
     9  [i]B.Dahlen            471[/i]
    10  [i]E.Delahanty         462[/i]
    10  H.WAGNER            462
    12  H.DUFFY             461
    13  T.DOWD              453
    14  [i]P.Donovan           441[/i]
    15  [i]J.Doyle             422[/i]
    16  [i]J.Burkett           398[/i]
    17  [i]H.Long              392[/i]
    18  [i]T.Daly              381[/i]
    19  T.LEACH             379
    20  E.FLICK             372
    21  F.CHANCE            370
    22  [i]H.Jennings          361[/i]
    23  D.GREEN             356
    24  D.MCGANN            343
    25  R.THOMAS            338
    
    
    
    Career Wins                      Career Saves
    No  Player             WINS      No  Player            SAVES
     1  [i]C.Young             400[/i]       1  [i]K.Nichols            21[/i]
     2  [i]K.Nichols           366[/i]       2  B.HOFFER             13  
     3  [i]A***sie             245[/i]       3  D.WILLIAMS           12
     4  [i]C.Griffith          211[/i]       4  J.CRONIN             11
     5  [i]P.Hawley            205[/i]       4  T.WALKER             11
     6  R.WADDELL           195       4  V.WILLIS             11
     7  D.PHILLIPPE         191       7  [i]C.Griffith           10[/i]
     8  B.BERNHARD          181       8  [i]N.Cuppy               9[/i]  
     8  A.ORTH              181       8  R.DONAHUE             9
    10  J.POWELL            180       8  H.KANE                9
    11  R.DONAHUE           179       8  [i]B.Kennedy             9[/i]
    12  C.MATHEWSON         178       8  E.MOORE               9
    13  [i]B.Kennedy           175[/i]      13  [i]A.Maul                8[/i]  
    13  J.TANNEHILL         175      13  [i]W.Mercer              8[/i]
    15  N.HAHN              174      13  J.TANNEHILL           8  
    16  B.HOFFER            171      13  [i]C.Young               8[/i]
    17  [i]N.Cuppy             168[/i]      17  [i]F.Morrissey           7[/i]
    18  H.HOWELL            166      17  D.NEWTON              7
    19  J.MCGINNITY         165      17  R.PATTERSON           7
    20  E.PLANK             164      17  [i]E.Scott               7[/i]
    21  [i]T.Breitenstein      158[/i]      21  [i]B.Carrick             6[/i]
    22  A.JOSS              150      21  J.CHESBRO             6
    22  V.WILLIS            150      21  L.FIENE               6
    24  D.WHITE             148      21  [i]K.Gleason             6[/i]
    24  J.ST.VRAIN          146      21  J.HALLA               6
    
    Career Strikeouts                Career ERA (min. 346 IP)
    No  Player               SO      No  Player              ERA
     1  R.WADDELL          2396       1  W.JOHNSON         1.951
     2  [i]C.Young            2189[/i]       2  J.PFIESTER        1.983
     3  [i]A***sie            1929[/i]       3  R.COLLINS         2.024
     4  [i]K.Nichols          1881[/i]       4  E.STEELE          2.081
     5  C.MATHEWSON        1705       5  E.WALSH           2.102
     6  E.PLANK            1421       6  R.AMES            2.108
     7  R.AMES             1383       7  I.YOUNG           2.115
     8  C.BENDER           1342       8  R.WADDELL         2.132
     9  N.HAHN             1255       9  B.CAMPBELL        2.140
    10  J.ST.VRAIN         1202      10  H.KRAUSE          2.156
    11  D.WHITE            1120      11  A.JOSS            2.180
    12  H.HOWELL           1086      12  J.ST.VRAIN        2.185
    13  B.WICKER           1084      13  M.BROWN           2.198      
    14  J.POWELL           1063      14  C.ROBITAILLE      2.218
    15  T.HUGHES           1060      15  G.WINTER          2.220
    16  D.PHILLIPPE        1049      15  H.WILTSE          2.220
    17  [i]P.Hawley           1024[/i]      17  B.HOOKER          2.225
    17  E.WALSH            1024      18  E.HUGHES          2.230
    19  B.DONOVAN          1000      19  S.J.DOYLE         2.268
    20  A.JOSS              997      20  B.EWING           2.298
    21  V.WILLIS            996      21  T.QUINN           2.306
    22  J.CHESBRO           931      22  T.WALKER          2.310
    23  B.HOFFER            926      23  J.LUSH            2.327
    24  J.TANNEHILL         904      24  C.MATHEWSON       2.333
    25  B.PELTY             894      25  T.HUGHES          2.335
    Last edited by doncoryell; 08-18-2007, 12:53 AM. Reason: thru 1908
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    • doncoryell
      All Star
      • Jan 2003
      • 7560

      #62
      updated awards list & league champs list

      Code:
      OUTSTANDING BATTER AWARD
      
      Year    American League               National League
      1901    Nap Lajoie, Philadelphia      Ed Delahanty, Philadelphia
      1902    Nap Lajoie, Philadelphia      Fred Clarke, Pittsburgh
      1903    Nap Lajoie, Philadelphia      Fred Clarke, Pittsburgh
      1904    Mike Donlin, New York         Cy Seymour, New York
      1905    Nap Lajoie, Washington        Cy Seymour, New York
      1906    Mike Donlin, New York         Harry Lumley, Chicago
      1907    Bill Keister, New York        Doc Gessler, Chicago
      1908    Frank Baker, Chicago          Elmer Flick, Boston
      
      
      
      
      OUTSTANDING PITCHER AWARD
      
      Year    American League               National League
      1901    Eddie Plank,Philadelphia      Doc White,Philadelphia
      1902    Jim St.Vrain, Washington      Christy Mathewson, New York
      1903    Bill Bernhard, Detroit        Red Ames, Brooklyn
      1904    Bill Bernhard, Detroit        Christy Mathewson, New York
      1905    Rube Waddell, Washington      Mordecai Brown, Chicago
      1906    Rube Waddell, St.Louis        Mordecai Brown, Chicago
      1907    Jim St.Vrain, Washington      Walter Johnson, St.Louis
      1908    Chick Robitaille, Washington  Mordecai Brown, Chicago
       
      
      
      
      ROOKIE OF THE YEAR AWARD
       
      Year    American League               National League
      1901    Eddie Plank, Philadelphia     Doc White, Philadelphia
      1902    Jim St.Vrain, Washington      Carl Lundgren, Boston
      1903    Moose McCormick, Washington   Red Ames, Brooklyn
      1904    Irv Young, Boston             Otis Clymer, St.Louis
      1905    Ed Hughes, Washington         Ed Karger, Boston
      1906    Jack Pfiester, St.Louis       Elmer Steele, Pittsburgh
      1907    Bill Grahame, Cleveland       Billy Campbell, Pittsburgh
      1908    Ray Collins, Boston           Roy Witherup, Cincinnati
      
      
      
      
      LEAGUE CHAMPIONS
      
      Year    American League              National League                 World Series Winner
      1901    Boston         81-59 .579    St. Louis      87-53 .621       None
      1902    Washington     85-55 .607    New York       89-51 .636       None
      1903    Detroit        80-61 .567    Philadelphia   78-62 .557       Philadelphia, 5-1
      1904    Detroit        90-64 .584    New York       96-58 .623       None
      1905    New York       90-64 .584    New York       99-55 .643       New York (N), 4-1
      1906    New York       89-65 .578    Chicago        99-55 .643       New York (A), 4-2
      1907    New York       89-65 .578    Chicago        87-67 .565       Chicago (N), 4-2
      1908    New York      101-53 .656    Chicago        99-55 .643       New York (A), 4-1
      Last edited by doncoryell; 08-18-2007, 12:55 AM.
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      • doncoryell
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        • Jan 2003
        • 7560

        #63
        updated single season records

        Code:
        Major League Single Season Records
        
        Hitting
        Batting Average: .401  Nap Lajoie, Philadelphia (A) 1901
        Hits: 233  Nap Lajoie, Philadelphia (A) 1901
        Doubles: 49  Ed Delahanty, Philadelphia (N) 1901
        Triples: 24  Bill Keister, New York (A) 1905; Elmer Flick, Boston (N) 1905
        Homeruns: 15  Nap Lajoie, Philadelphia (A) 1902; Tim Jordan, Philadelphia (A) 1905
        RBI: 115  Harry Lumley, Chicago (N) 1906
        Runs: 122  Nap Lajoie, Philadelphia (A) 1901
        Walks: 129  John McGraw, Baltimore 1901
        Strikeouts: 110  Branch Rickey, Boston (A) 1906
        Stolen Bases: 81  Fred Clarke, Pittsburgh 1901
        Hitting Streak: 50  Dave Fultz, Philadelphia (A) 1902
        
        
        Pitching
        Earned Run Average: 1.24  Chick Robitaille, Washington 1908
        Wins: 34  Doc White, Philadelphia (N) 1901
        Losses: 36  Jack Taylor, Chicago (N) 1901
        Saves: 8  Harry Kane, Chicago (A) 1906; Tom Walker, Cincinnati 1908
        Bases on Balls: 174  Tom Hughes, Chicago (N) 1901
        Strikeouts: 330  Rube Waddell, Philadelphia (A) 1904
        
         
        
        
        
        American League Single Season Records
        
        Hitting
        Batting Average: .401  Nap Lajoie, Philadelphia (A) 1901
        Hits: 233  Nap Lajoie, Philadelphia (A) 1901
        Doubles: 45  Nap Lajoie, Philadelphia (A) 1901
        Triples: 24  Bill Keister, New York (A) 1905
        Homeruns: 15  Nap Lajoie, Philadelphia (A) 1902; Tim Jordan, Philadelphia (A) 1905
        RBI: 109  Nap Lajoie, Philadelphia (A) 1901
        Runs: 122  Nap Lajoie, Philadelphia (A) 1901  
        Walks: 129  John McGraw, Baltimore 1901
        Strikeouts: 110  Branch Rickey, Boston (A) 1906
        Stolen Bases: 70  Nap Lajoie, Philadelphia (A) 1901
        Hitting Streak: 50  Dave Fultz, Philadelphia (A) 1902
        
        
        
        
        Pitching
        Earned Run Average: 1.24  Chick Robitaille, Washington 1908
        Wins: 32  Eddie Plank, Philadelphia (A) 1901
        Losses: 26, Case Patten, Washington 1901, Charlie Shields, Chicago (A) 1902, Fred Glade, Detroit 1906
        Saves: 8  Harry Kane, Chicago (A) 1906
        Bases on Balls: 145  Jack Coombs, Philadelphia (A) 1907
        Strikeouts: 330  Rube Waddell, Philadelphia (A) 1904
        
        
        
        National League Single Season Records
        
        Hitting
        Batting Average: .368  Harry Bay, Cincinnati 1902
        Hits: 200  Harry Bay, Cincinnati 1902
        Doubles: 49  Ed Delahanty, Philadelphia (N) 1901
        Triples: 24  Elmer Flick, Boston (N) 1905
        Homeruns: 14  Tim Jordan, Pittsburgh 1908
        RBI: 115  Harry Lumley, Chicago (N) 1906
        Runs: 119  Roy Thomas, Philadelphia (N) 1901
        Walks: 127  Roy Thomas, Philadelphia (N) 1902
        Strikeouts: 99  Sam Dungan, Philadelphia (N) 1907
        Stolen Bases: 81  Fred Clarke, Pittsburgh 1901
        Hitting Streak: 35  Danny Green, Chicago (N) 1903
        
        
        
        Pitching
        Earned Run Average: 1.32  Mordecai Brown, Chicago (N) 1908
        Wins: 34  Doc White, Philadelphia (N) 1901
        Losses: 36  Jack Taylor, Chicago (N) 1901
        Saves: 8  Tom Walker, Cincinnati 1908
        Bases on Balls: 174  Tom Hughes, Chicago (N) 1901
        Strikeouts: 294  Rube Waddell, Pittsburgh 1901
        Last edited by doncoryell; 08-18-2007, 12:54 AM.
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        • doncoryell
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          • Jan 2003
          • 7560

          #64
          year-by-year triple crown catagory leaders

          Code:
          BATTING AVERAGE
          
          Year     American League                      National League
          1901     Nap Lajoie,Philadelphia     .401     Ed Delahanty,Philadelphia    .366
          1902     Mike Donlin, Baltimore      .369     Harry Bay, Cincinnati        .368
          1903     Moose McCormick, Washington .393     Harry Bay, Cincinnati        .332
          1904     Bill Coughlin, Washington   .301     Tom McCreery, Brooklyn       .326
          1905     Mike Donlin, New York       .325     Dave Fultz, Brooklyn         .330
          1906     Mike Donlin, New York       .343     Harry Lumley, Chicago        .317
          1907     Roy Hartzell, Detroit       .318     **** Hoblitzel, Cincinnati   .318
          1908     Roy Hartzell, Detroit       .378     Chick Stahl, St.Louis        .314
          
          
          HOMERUNS
          
          Year     American League                      National League
          1901     Jimmy Williams,Baltimore      13     Sam Crawford,Cincinnati        11
          1902     Nap Lajoie, Philadelphia      15     Ginger Beaumont, Pittsburgh     6
          1903     Ed Delahanty, Washington      12     Charley Hickman, New York       9
          1904     Herm McFarland, Chicago        9     Cy Seymour, New York           10
          1905     Tim Jordan, Philadelphia      15     Harry Davis, New York           8
          1906     Pop Foster, Philadelphia       8     Harry Lumley, Chicago           6
          1907     Sam Crawford, Detroit          9     Tim Jordan, Pittsburgh          7
          1908     Pop Foster, Chicago            8     Tim Jordan, Pittsburgh         14
          
          
          
          RUNS BATTED IN
          
          Year     American League                      National League
          1901     Nap Lajoie,Philadelphia      109     Ed Delahanty,Philadelphia     108
          1902     Mike Grady, Washington        92     Willie Keeler, Brooklyn        95
          1903     Mike Grady, Washington        87     Harry Lumley, Chicago          85
          1904     Bill Bradley, Cleveland       77     Charley Hickman, New York      91
          1905     Erve Beck, Cleveland          97     Harry Davis, New York          98
          1906     Art Devlin, St.Louis          77     Harry Lumley, Chicago         115
          1907     Sam Crawford, Detroit         74     Doc Gessler, Chicago           79
          1908     Ty Cobb, Chicago              79     Patsy Dougherty, Boston        80
          
          
          
          
          
          
          PITCHING
          
          EARNED RUN AVERAGE
          
          Year     American League                      National League
          1901     John Skopec,Chicago         2.50     Mike O'Neill,St.Louis        2.27
          1902     Rube Waddell, Philadelphia  2.29     Christy Mathewson, New York  2.08
          1903     Case Patten, Washington     1.77     Bill Duggleby, Philadelphia  1.81
          1904     Cy Young, Boston            1.51     Deacon Phillippe, Pittsburgh 1.46
          1905     Rube Waddell, Washington    1.85     Noodles Hahn, Cincinnati     1.64
          1906     Charlie Smith, Chicago      1.79     Red Ames, Brooklyn           1.63
          1907     Addie Joss, New York        1.55     Jimmy Dygert, Cincinnati     1.46
          1908     Chick Robitaille,Washington 1.24     Mordecai Brown, Chicago      1.32
          
          
          
          WINS
          
          Year     American League                      National League
          1901     Eddie Plank,Philadelphia      32     Doc White,Philadelphia         34
          1902     Jim St.Vrain, Washington      30     Christy Mathewson, New York    33
          1903     Bill Bernhard, Detroit        25     Red Ames, Brooklyn             22
          1904     Bill Bernhard, Detroit        25     Chappie McFarland, New York    25
          1905     Bob Ewing,NY/Rube Waddell,WS  23     Mordecai Brown/Bob Wicker,CHN  26
          1906     Rube Waddell, Philadelphia    27     Mordecai Brown, Chicago        30
          1907     Jim St.Vrain, Washington      27     Walter Johnson, St.Louis       25
          1908     Chick Robitaille,Washington   26     Mordecai Brown, Chicago        24
          
          
          
          STRIKEOUTS
          
          Year     American League                      National League
          1901     Bill Hoffer,Cleveland        189     Rube Waddell,Pittsburgh       294
          1902     Rube Waddell, Philadelphia   321     Christy Mathewson, New York   227
          1903     Rube Waddell, Philadelphia   257     Red Ames, Brooklyn            278
          1904     Rube Waddell, Philadelphia   330     Christy Mathewson, New York   228
          1905     Rube Waddell, Washington     303     Red Ames, Brooklyn            259
          1906     Rube Waddell, St.Louis       236     Red Ames, Brooklyn            247
          1907     Rube Waddell, St.Louis       233     Red Ames, Brooklyn            217
          1908     Harry Krause, Cleveland      249     Red Ames, Brooklyn            217
          Last edited by doncoryell; 08-18-2007, 12:55 AM.
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          • doncoryell
            All Star
            • Jan 2003
            • 7560

            #65
            1908 - MLB Year In Review

            The American League title race was pretty much decided by the time September came rolling around. The New York Highlanders, winners of the last two seasons, made it three in a row as they totally dominated the league, winning a record 101 games. The Highlanders were ahead of the then second place Washington Senators by 13 games and continued to cruise to the title, finishing 16 games ahead of the Chicago White Sox. New York was led at the plate by Mike Donlin and Sherry Magee and on the mound by Addie Joss and George Winter. The White Sox finished second behind the hitting of Ty Cobb and rookie Frank Baker.

            It was the same story in the National League as well as the Chicago Cubs rolled to their third straight NL title by finishing 14 games ahead of the second place Pittsburgh Pirates. The Cubs were once again led by their pitching corps with Mordecai "Three Finger" Brown leading the way, as he led the league in wins (24) and earned run average (1.32). The Pirates finished second thanks to the power hitting of Tim Jordan, who led the majors in home runs with 14, a new National League record.

            The World Series proved to be ho-hum as well as the favored Highlanders disappointed no one in defeating the Cubs in five games. George Winter led the way with two wins, with Bernhard and Joss winning one game each.

            Code:
            American League     W   L   PCT  GB     National League     W   L   PCT  GB
            New York          101  53  .656  --     Chicago            99  55  .643  --
            Chicago            85  69  .552  16     Pittsburgh         85  69  .552  14
            Washington         84  70  .545  17     Philadelphia       77  77  .500  22
            Boston             75  79  .487  26     Boston             75  79  .487  24
            Cleveland          75  79  .487  26     Cincinnati         75  79  .487  24
            St.Louis           71  83  .461  30     St.Louis           71  83  .461  28
            Philadelphia       68  86  .442  33     Brooklyn           70  84  .455  29
            Detroit            57  97  .370  44     New York           64  90  .416  35
            
            
            
            Batting AVG           AVG               Batting AVG           AVG
            R.Hartzell, DET      .378               C.Stahl, SLN         .314
            M.Donlin, NYA        .319               E.Flick, BSN         .312
            F.Baker, CHA         .318               S.Hofman, CIN        .301
            
            Homeruns               HR               Homeruns               HR
            P.Foster, CHA           8               T.Jordan, PIT          14
            E.Beck, CLE             7               T.Leach, SLN            6
            R.Murray, SLA           6               J.Bates, BRO            5
            
            Runs Batted In        RBI               Runs Batted In        RBI
            T.Cobb, CHA            79               P.Dougherty, BSN       80
            S.Magee, NYA           78               E.Collins, CHN         74
            F.Baker, CHA           68               D.Hoblitzel, CIN       73
            
            Runs Scored            RS               Runs Scored            RS
            S.Evans, NYA           92               D.Jones, NY1           88
            B.Bescher, WS1         83               B.Herzog, BSN          78
            S.Crawford, DET        82               B.Shotton, CHN         78
            
            Stolen Bases           SB               Stolen Bases           SB
            B.Hamilton, PHA        55               D.Jones, NY1           64
            B.Bescher, WS1         48               E.Grant, BSN           46
            D.Bush, CHA            43               E.Flick, BSN           45
            
            Earned Run Average    ERA               Earned Run Average    ERA
            C.Robitaille, WS1    1.24               M.Brown, CHN         1.32
            A.Joss, NYA          1.58               W.Johnson, SLN       1.79
            J.Pfiester, SLA      1.83               D.Phillippe, CHN     1.85
            
            Wins                    W               Wins                    W
            C.Robitaille, WS1      26               M.Brown, CHN           24
            G.Winter, NYA          26               T.Hughes, CHN          22
            H.Wiltse, CHA          25               W.Johnson, SLN         22
            
            Saves                  SV               Saves                  SV
            R.Patterson, CHA        7               T.Walker, CIN           8
            J.Cronin, WS1           4               E.Moore, PIT            7
            C.Roy, PHA              4               J.Barthold, BRO         4
            
            Strikeouts             SO               Strikeouts             SO
            H.Krause, CLE         249               R.Ames, BRO           217
            R.Waddell, SLA        247               C.Bender, BSN         203
            O.Overall, CHA        213               N***cker, PHI         200
            
            
            
            1908 World Series
            
            Game #1
            Chicago (N)  0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 - 2  5 1
            New York (A) 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 - 3 11 0
            Dent and Snodgrass, Sweeney (9). Winter and Warner.
            WP - Winter (1-0)
            LP - Dent (0-1)
            HR - none
            
            
            Game #2
            Chicago (N)  0 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 - 3 11 5
            New York (A) 0 0 4 0 0 1 2 0 x - 7  7 2
            Thielman and Snodgrass. Bernhard and Warner.
            WP - Bernhard (1-0)
            LP - Thielman (0-1)
            HR - Evans (1)
            
            
            Game #3
            New York (A) 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 - 1 8 0
            Chicago (N)  0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 - 0 8 0
            Joss and Warner. Brown and Snodgrass.
            WP - Joss (1-0)
            LP - Brown (0-1)
            HR - none
            
            
            Game #4
            New York (A) 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 - 1 4 0
            Chicago (N)  0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 x - 2 7 1
            Lush and Warner. Hughes and Snodgrass, Sweeney (9).
            WP - Hughes (1-0)
            LP - Lush (0-1)
            HR - none
            
            
            
            Game #5
            New York (A) 0 0 0 0 1 2 0 0 1 1 - 5 8 3
            Chicago (N)  1 0 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 0 - 4 7 1
            Winter and Warner. Phillippe, Willis (10) and Snodgrass, Sweeney (9).
            WP - Winter (2-0)
            LP - Willis (0-1)
            HR - Meyers (1), Delahanty (1)
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            • doncoryell
              All Star
              • Jan 2003
              • 7560

              #66
              1908 Awards & Things

              American League Outstanding Batter Award
              Frank Baker, Chicago (A)
              138 g, 443 ab, 53 r, 141 h, 29 2b, 13 3b, 3 hr, 68 rbi, 27 bb, 32 k, 25 sb, .318 avg, .364 obp, .458 slg

              National League Outstanding Batter Award
              Elmer Flick, Boston (N)
              122 g, 475 ab, 65 r, 148 h, 22 2b, 15 3b, 2 hr, 58 rbi, 41 bb, 48 k, 45 sb, .312 avg, .374 obp, .434 slg

              American League Outstanding Pitcher Award
              Chick Robitaille, Washington
              26-12, 0 sv, 1.24 era, 38 g, 38 gs, 348.0 ip, 242 ha, 74 r, 48 er, 88 bb, 103 k, 0.95 whip, .202 oavg

              National League Outstanding Pitcher Award
              Mordecai Brown, Chicago (N)
              24-9, 0 sv, 1.32 era, 35 g, 35 gs, 313.2 ip, 230 ha, 67 r, 46 er, 51 bb, 138 k, 0.90 whip, .236 oavg

              American League Rookie of the Year Award
              Ray Collins, Boston (A)
              21-17, 0 sv, 2.02 era, 39 g, 39 gs, 351.1 ip, 301 ha, 112 r, 79 er, 86 bb, 157 k, 1.10 whip, .236 oavg

              National League Rookie of the Year Award
              Roy Witherup, Cincinnati
              18-18, 0 sv, 2.43 era, 39 g, 39 gs, 374.1 ip, 306 ha, 133 r, 101 er, 92 bb, 172 k, 1.06 whip, .226 oavg



              Major League Records Set or Tied
              Pitching
              ERA
              : 1.24 - Chick Robitaille, Washington
              Saves: 8 - Tom Walker, Cincinnati

              American League Records Set or Tied
              Pitching
              ERA
              : 1.24 - Chick Robitaille, Washington

              National League Records Set or Tied
              Hitting
              Home Runs
              : 14 - Tim Jordan, Pittsburgh

              Pitching
              ERA
              : 1.32 - Mordecai Brown, Chicago (N)
              Saves: 8 - Tom Walker, Cincinnati



              Milestones
              4/21
              - Nap Lajoie scores 1000th run
              6/5 - Tommy Dowd scores 1000th run
              6/25 - Glenn Liebhardt no-hits Philadelphia (N). This is the first no-hitter thrown this season and the ninth in history.
              8/7 - Joe Wood spins no-hitter. This is the second no-hitter this season and the tenth in history.
              9/3 - Ed Hughes no-hits Red Sox. This is the third no-hitter thrown this season and the eleventh in history.



              In-season Trades
              6/16
              - Brooklyn gets p John Barthold (26 yrs old, 3-2, 4 sv, 1.99 era, 22.2 ip, 9 k), Philadelphia (N) gets rf Bob Ganley (33 yrs old, .221-0-22-16)
              7/6 - Cleveland gets p Jake Livingstone (28 yrs old, 0-0, 0.00 era, 0.0 ip, 0 k), New York (N) gets ss Joe Kelley (36 yrs old, .302-1-30-21)
              7/24 - Boston (A) gets p Joe Harris (26 yrs old, 11-14, 2.51 era, 219.0 ip, 101 k), Brooklyn gets ss Mike Grady (38 yrs old, .233-3-46-22) and lf Tom Catterson (23 yrs old, .000-0-0-0)
              7/25 - Boston (A) gets p Eddie Files (25 yrs old, 0-0, 0.00 era, 0.0 ip, 0 k) and 1b Fred Merkle (19 yrs old, .000-0-0-0), Detroit gets 1b George Stovall (30 yrs old, .236-0-6-1) and Scotty Barr (21 yrs old, .000-0-0-0)
              7/29 - Chicago (A) gets p Nich Carter (29 yrs old, 1-2, 2 sv, 3.90 era, 27.2 ip, 13 k), St.Louis (N) gets 3b Pops Foster (30 yrs old, .295-11-77-24)
              7/29 - Cincinnati gets p Jack Pfiester (30 yrs old, 22-11, 1.57 era, 326.0 ip, 151 k), St.Louis (A) gets lf Wally Clement (27 yrs old, .250-0-28-8)
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              • doncoryell
                All Star
                • Jan 2003
                • 7560

                #67
                1908-09 Winter Meetings

                Announcements
                Hall of Fame
                - Announced that it was adjusting a criteria for automatic induction. From now on, a player with a career batting average of .295 or higher must have at least 2400 hits. Under the new restrictions, retired secondbaseman George Davis has been inducted into the Hall of Fame.

                Philadelphia (A) - Announced that they are opening a new ballpark at the beginning of the 1909 season. The name of the ballpark is Shibe Field.

                Pittsburgh - Announced that they will be opening a new ballpark during the 1909 season. The name of the new ballpark is Forbes Field and the first game played there will be on June 30.



                Free Agency

                Here is a list of the major free agents and where they were signed.

                3b Pep Clark - Signed a 3-year, $104,130 contract with Boston (N)
                lf Patsy Dougherty - Signed a 3-year, $138,690 contract with Philadelphia (N)
                p Bull Durham - Signed a 2-year, $6,040 contract with St. Louis (N)
                ss Kid Elberfeld - Signed a 3-year, $25,230 contract with Detroit
                rf Fielder Jones - Signed a 2-year, $104,580 contract with St.Louis (A)
                lf Matty McIntyre - Signed a 2-year, $24,200 contract with Philadelphia (A)
                p Jim St.Vrain - Signed a 3-year, $150,010 contract with Washington
                cf Jake Stahl - Signed a 3-year, $183,830 contract with Chicago (A)



                Winter Trades
                10/18
                - Chicago (N) gets c Larry McLean (27 yrs old, .286-0-2-0), St.Louis (A) gets lf Frank Delahanty (25 yrs old, .118-0-0-0)
                10/20 - Boston (A) gets p Chappie McFarland (32 yrs old, 14-19, 2.69 era, 294.2 ip, 113 k) and p Chick Evans (19 yrs old, 0-0, 0.00 era, 0.0 ip, 0 k), New York (N) gets lf Dode Paskert (27 yrs old, .173-0-10-2)
                10/24 - Detroit gets cf Birdie Cree (26 yrs old, .185-0-2-0) and 3b Cozy Dolan (18 yrs old, .000-0-0-0), Chicago (A) gets 1b George Stovall (30 yrs old, .236-0-6-1)
                10/26 - Philadelphia (N) gets rf Doc Nance (32 yrs old, .235-3-27-9), Chicago (A) gets c Pete Noonan (26 yrs old, .208-0-22-1) and rf Hy Myers (19 yrs old, .000-0-0-0)
                11/11 - New York (N) gets 2b Dave Shean (25 yrs old, .265-0-12-2) and cf Scotty Barr (22 yrs old, .000-0-0-0), Detroit gets lf George Stone (31 yrs old, .275-1-57-30)
                11/16 - Washington gets p Jack Coombs (25 yrs old, 12-26, 3.33 era, 329.2 ip, 177 k) and p Harry Camnitz (24 yrs old, 0-0, 0.00 era, 0.0 ip, 0 k), Philadelphia (N) gets 1b Hal Chase (26 yrs old, .279-2-64-22)
                11/19 - Brooklyn gets p Billy Campbell (35 yrs old, 0-0, 0.00 era, 0.0 ip, 0 k) and ss Tommy McMillan (20 yrs old, .000-0-0-0), Pittsburgh gets c Art Hoelskoetter (26 yrs old, .184-2-23-2) and lf Tom Catterson (24 yrs old, .000-0-0-0)
                11/19 - Washington gets p Doc Reisling (34 yrs old, 0-0, 0.00 era, 0.0 ip, 0 k), Philadelphia (N) gets 1b Jim Kane (26 yrs old, .000-0-0-0) and lf Chet Chadbourne (24 yrs old, .000-0-0-0)
                11/28 - Boston (A) gets p Rube Vickers (29 yrs old, 16-16, 2.05 era, 277.0 ip, 132 k) and 2b Red Killefer (23 yrs old, .000-0-0-0), Cincinnati gets cf Gavvy Cravath (27 yrs old, .219-1-44-11) and 3b Tilly Shafer (19 yrs old, .230-0-36-37)
                11/29 - St.Louis (N) gets p Oscar Graham (30 yrs old, 0-0, 0.00 era, 0.0 ip, 0 k), St.Louis (A) gets rf Bunk Congalton (32 yrs old, .218-0-9-2) and ss Jack Wanner (23 yrs old, .000-0-0-0)
                12/2 - Cincinnati gets p Heinie Berger (26 yrs old, 20-17, 2.88 era, 318.1 ip, 186 k), Philadelphia (A) gets lf Bris Lord (25 yrs old, .242-0-2-1) and 3b Tillie Shafer (19 yrs old, .230-0-36-37)
                1/22 - Chicago (N) gets p Jack Quinn (25 yrs old, 17-17, 2.91 era, 309.1 ip, 123 k), Detroit gets 3b Jim Delahanty (29 yrs old, .242-1-46-14) and rf Danny Moeller (23 yrs old, .300-0-0-0)
                2/7 - Chicago (N) gets p Red Booles (28 yrs old, 0-0, 0.00 era, 0.0 ip, 0 k) and cf Charlie Johnson (23 yrs old, .000-0-0-0), Cleveland gets lf Bill Hinchman (25 yrs old, .162-0-10-8)



                Retirements

                cf Duff Cooley
                , age 35 - 16 seasons. His best season was in 1895 when he batted .339 with 7 homers, 75 rbi and 27 sb in 132 games.
                .285 avg, 20 hr, 465 rbi, 1419 h, 158 2b, 96 3b, 786 r, 205 sb

                cf Billy Hamilton
                , age 43 - 19 seasons. Inducted to Hall of Fame. His best season was in 1894 when he batted .404 with 4 homers, 87 rbi and 98 sb in 129 games.
                .310 avg, 45 hr, 857 rbi, 2644 h, 291 2b, 116 3b, 1953 r, 1133 sb

                1b Burt Hart
                , age 38 - 7 seasons. His best season was in 1901 when he batted .358 with 2 homers, 53 rbi and 23 sb in 130 games.
                .326 avg, 3 hr, 167 rbi, 598 h, 57 2b, 22 3b, 236 r, 89 sb

                c Hughie Hearne
                , age 35 - 7 seasons. His best season was in 1903 when he batted .284 with 0 homers, 22 rbi and 4 sb in 113 games.
                .2252 avg, 3 hr, 166 rbi, 482 h, 82 2b, 11 3b, 219 r, 26 sb

                c Mike Kahoe
                , age 35 - 5 seasons. His best season was in 1902 when he batted .252 with 0 hr, 12 rbi and 1 sb in 68 games.
                .208 avg, 1 hr, 31 rbi, 82 h, 13 2b, 6 3b, 36 r, 5 sb

                c Tom Leahy
                , age 39 - 10 seasons. His best season was in 1901 when he batted .311 with 2 homers, 50 rbi and 32 sb in 128 games.
                .265 avg, 9 hr, 284 rbi, 743 h, 74 2b, 37 3b, 344 r, 171 sb

                c Heinie Peitz
                , age 38 - 17 seasons. His best season was in 1902 when he batted .319 with 0 homers, 31 rbi and 14 sb in 104 games.
                .274 avg, 15 hr, 558 rbi, 1201 h, 195 2b, 63 3b, 584 r, 116 sb

                rf Joe Hildebrand
                , age 36 - 3 seasons.
                .091 avg, 0 hr, 0 rbi, 1 h, 0 2b, 0 3b, 0 r, 0 sb

                3b Jim Cockman
                , age 35 - 2 seasons.
                .000 avg, 0 hr, 0 rbi, 0 h, 0 2b, 0 3b, 0 r, 0 sb

                c Frank Bowerman
                , age 40 - 13 seasons. His best season was in 1904 when he batted .275 with 1 homer, 48 rbi and 8 sb in 136 games.
                .266 avg, 8 hr, 273 rbi, 615 h, 83 2b, 25 3b, 239 r, 53 sb

                3b Bill Bradley
                , age 31 - 9 seasons. His best season was in 1901 when he batted .326 with 4 homers, 76 rbi and 28 sb in 134 games.
                .282 avg, 28 hr, 442 rbi, 1158 h, 214 2b, 83 3b, 498 r, 144 sb

                cf Ed Bruyette
                , age 34 - 2 seasons.
                .264 avg, 0 hr, 12 rbi, 23 h, 5 2b, 0 3b, 5 r, 0 sb

                p Farmer Burns
                , age 35 - 2 seasons.
                1-0, 0 sv, 6.00 era, 15.0 ip, 8 bb, 2 k

                c John Butler
                , age 29 - 1 season.
                .200 avg, 0 hr, 1 rbi, 1 hit, 0 2b, 0 3b, 0 r, 0 sb

                1b Charlie Carr
                , age 32 - 3 seasons.
                .244 avg, 1 hr, 22 rbi, 55 h, 8 2b, 4 3b, 28 r, 6 sb

                3b Jimmy Collins
                , age 39 - 14 seasons. His best season was in 1897 when he batted .346 with 6 homers, 132 rbi and 14 sb in 134 games.
                .294 avg, 58 hr, 844 rbi, 1556 h, 270 2b, 90 3b, 838 r, 204 sb

                p Bill Dineen
                , age 32 - 10 seasons. His best season was in 1905 when he compiled a record of 20-14 with a 2.91 era and 116 k in 328.1 innings.
                113-131, 0 sv, 3.23 era, 2182.0 ip, 705 bb, 829 k

                2b Joe Dolan
                , age 36 - 11 seasons. His best season was in 1904 when he batted .257 with 0 homers, 13 rbi and 2 sb in 97 games.
                .229 avg, 6 hr, 131 rbi, 287 h, 40 2b, 22 3b, 137 r, 28 sb

                p Clark Griffith
                , age 39 - 15 seasons. His best season was in 1898 when he compiled a record of 24-10 with a 1.88 era and 97 k in 325.2 innings.
                211-163, 10 sv, 3.16 era, 3293.1 ip, 754 bb, 877 k

                c Emil Haberer
                , age 31 - 3 seasons.
                .123 avg, 0 hr, 4 rbi, 9 h, 3 2b, 0 3b, 4 r, 0 sb

                rf Jack Hayden
                , age 28 - 7 seasons. His best season was in 1902 when he batted .279 with 0 homers, 26 rbi and 4 sb in 100 games.
                .253 avg, 0 hr, 112 rbi, 238 h, 28 2b, 12 3b, 116 r, 13 sb

                p Frank Kitson
                , age 39 - 10 seasons. His best season was in 1901 when he compiled a 28-17 record with a 2.90 era and 145 k in 403.2 innings.
                131-110, 5 sv, 2.88 era, 2209.0 ip, 549 bb, 663 k

                cf Watty Lee
                , age 29 - 7 seasons. His best season was in 1901 when he batted .267 with 2 homers, 14 rbi and 0 sb in 47 games.
                .245 avg, 3 hr, 66 rbi, 148 h, 33 2b, 8 3b, 66 r, 7 sb

                cf Billy Maloney
                , age 30 - 7 seasons. His best season was in 1903 when he batted .300 with 3 homers, 36 rbi and 27 sb in 116 games.
                .273 avg, 12 hr, 247 rbi, 748 h, 69 2b, 46 3b, 348 r, 194 sb

                c Ed McFarland
                , age 34 - 13 seasons. His best season was in 1898 when he batted .282 with 3 homers, 71 rbi and 4 sb in 121 games.
                .259 avg, 18 hr, 499 rbi, 1037 h, 160 2b, 63 3b, 505 r, 85 sb

                3b Pete O'Brien
                , age 31 - 7 seasons. His best season was in 1902 when he batted .245 with 0 homers, 7 rbi and 3 sb in 48 games.
                .234 avg, 1 hr, 29 rbi, 64 h, 9 2b, 3 3b, 28 r, 6 sb

                p Wiley Piatt
                , age 34 - 10 seasons. His best season was in 1898 when he compiled a 24-14 record with a 3.18 era and 121 k in 306.0 innings.
                110-91, 5 sv, 2.89 era, 1748.0 ip, 551 bb, 671 k

                c Al Shaw
                , age 34 - 5 seasons. His best season was in 1901 when he batted .277 with 3 homers, 53 rbi and 3 sb in 111 games.
                .254 avg, 4 hr, 78 rbi, 169 h, 42 2b, 2 3b, 66 r, 5 sb

                cf Jimmy Slagle
                , age 35 - 10 seasons. His best season was in 1900 when he batted .287 with 0 homers, 45 rbi and 34 sb in 141 games.
                .258 avg, 2 hr, 398 rbi, 1157 h, 128 2b, 53 3b, 625 r, 205 sb

                1b Jack Slattery
                , age 31 - 1 season.
                .192 avg, 0 hr, 8 rbi, 10 h, 3 2b, 0 3b, 7 r, 0 sb

                c Farmer Steelman
                , age 33 - 5 seasons. His best season was in 1901 when he batted .252 with 1 homer, 22 rbi and 1 sb in 54 games.
                .216 avg, 1 hr, 47 rbi, 89 h, 8 2b, 3 3b, 41 r, 2 sb

                c George Yeager
                , age 34 - 11 seasons. His best season was in 1898 when he batted .267 with 3 homers, 24 rbi and 1 sb in 68 games.
                .204 avg, 5 hr, 92 rbi, 179 h, 32 2b, 11 3b, 100 r, 5 sb

                c Harry Bemis
                , age 34 - 6 seasons. His best season was in 1902 when he batted .271 with 3 homers, 49 rbi and 10 sb in 122 games.
                .252 avg, 4 hr, 136 rbi, 353 h, 57 2b, 23 3b, 151 r, 20 sb

                c Red Dooin
                , age 28 - 6 seasons. His best season was in 1905 when he batted .266 with 2 homers, 47 rbi and 10 sb in 131 games.
                .244 avg, 5 hr, 137 rbi, 360 h, 47 2b, 22 3b, 135 r, 33 sb

                p Jack Lundbom
                , age 30 - 1 season.
                0-0, 0 sv, 4.25 era, 8.2 ip, 7 bb, 1 k

                c Jack O'Neill
                , age 35 - 2 seasons.
                .291 avg, 0 hr, 7 rbi, 23 h, 5 2b, 0 3b, 9 r, 2 sb

                c Art Weaver
                , age 28 - 2 seasons.
                .197 avg, 1 hr, 39 rbi, 85 h, 17 2b, 5 3b, 35 r, 2 sb

                1b Charlie Babb
                , age 36 - 5 seasons. His best season was in 1903 when he batted .285 with 0 homers, 49 rbi and 27 sb in 117 games.
                .247 avg, 0 hr, 113 rbi, 283 h, 41 2b, 17 3b, 118 r, 37 sb

                p Jim Fairbank
                , age 27 - 1 season.
                0-0, 0 sv, 2.84 era, 6.1 ip, 1 bb, 1 k

                p John Lovett
                , age 31 - 1 season.
                0-0, 0 sv, 0.00 era, 0.1 ip, 0 bb, 0 k

                p Jake Weimer
                , age 35 - 2 seasons.
                5-12, 0 sv, 3.69 era, 141.1 ip, 57 bb, 75 k

                lf Branch Rickey
                , age 27 - 3 seasons. His best season was in 1907 when he batted .269 with 5 homers, 54 rbi and 11 sb in 131 games.
                .248 avg, 11 hr, 158 rbi, 371 h, 48 2b, 22 3b, 182 r, 46 sb

                p Homer Hillebrand
                , age 29 - 2 seasons.
                26-37, 0 sv, 2.75 era, 544.0 ip, 200 bb, 276 k

                c Hub Hart
                , age 31 - 1 season.
                .000 avg, 0 hr, 0 rbi, 0 h, 0 2b, 0 3b, 0 r, 0 sb

                rf Myron Grimshaw
                , age 33 - 3 seasons. His best season was in 1907 when he batted .375 with 0 homers, 20 rbi and 1 sb in 34 games.
                .281 avg, 2 hr, 34 rbi, 92 h, 13 2b, 3 3b, 32 r, 5 sb

                c Harry Barton
                , age 34 - 1 season.
                .000 avg, 0 hr, 0 rbi, 0 h, 0 2b, 0 3b, 0 r, 0 sb

                c Charlie Armbruster
                , age 28 - 1 season.
                .146 avg, 0 hr, 1 rbi, 6 h, 1 2b, 0 3b, 5 r, 0 sb

                c Tubby Spencer
                , age 25 - 2 seasons.
                .177 avg, 0 hr, 8 rbi, 14 h, 3 2b, 0 3b, 7 r, 0 sb

                c Howard Wakefield
                , age 24 - 2 seasons.
                .219 avg, 1 hr, 38 rbi, 101 h, 17 2b, 2 3b, 40 r, 6 sb

                c Fred Payne
                , age 28, - 1 season.
                .157 avg, 1 hr, 8 rbi, 11 h, 0 2b, 1 3b, 9 r, 4 sb

                c Walter Blair
                , age 25 - 1 season.
                .167 avg, 0 hr, 0 rbi, 1 h, 0 2b, 0 3b, 2 r, 0 sb

                c Bill Ludwig
                , age 26 - 1 season.
                .200 avg, 0 hr, 0 rbi, 6 h, 1 2b, 0 3b, 0 r, 3 sb

                p Carl Spongberg
                , age 24 - 1 season.
                1-0, 0 sv, 0.00 era, 3.1 ip, 2 bb, 1 k



                Code:
                Team              Round One             Round Two             Round Three          Round Four
                Detroit           Ad Brennan,p          Frank Lange,p         Red Nelson,p         Ed Moyer,p
                New York (N)      Bert Humphries,p      Fred Blanding,p       Dutch Zwilling,cf    Chris Mahoney,p
                Philadelphia (A)  Lefty Tyler,p         George Chalmers,p     Dave Skeels,p        Orlie Weaver,p
                Brooklyn          Marty McHale,p        Ray Boyd,p            Chief Chouneau,p     Roy Golden,p
                St.Louis (A)      Sandy Burk,p          Spec Harkness,p       Jack Dalton,rf       Hub Northen,cf
                St.Louis (N)      Ray Fisher,p          Bill Steele,p         Ben Demott,p         Chick Gandil,1b
                Cincinnati        Bunny Hearn,p         Ben Hunt,p            Jimmy Walsh,2b       Eddie Ainsmith,c
                Cleveland         John Frill,p          Ed Zmich,p            Cy Alberts,p         Doc Miller,rf
                Boston (A)        Ray Caldwell,p        Harry Fanwell,p       Jake Daubert,1b      Shano Collins,1b
                Boston (N)        Alex Malloy,p         Eddie Stack,p         Marv Peasley,p       Hap Myers,1b
                Philadelphia (N)  Rube Benton,p         Fred Link,p           George Crable,p      Duffy Lewis,lf
                Washington        Roy Mitchell,p        Elmer Koestner,p      Jim Doyle,3b         Eddie Foster,3b
                Pittsburgh        Sailor Stroud,p       Marc Hall,p           Bill Crouch,p        Rollie Zeider,2b
                Chicago (A)       Max Carey,lf          Bert Daniels,lf       Roger Peckinpaugh,ss Art Phelan,3b
                Chicago (N)       George Kahler,p       Farmer Ray,p          Hank Gowdy,1b        Jay Kirke,lf
                New York (A)      Frank Browning,p      Rube Geyer,p          Lefty Webb,p         Walt Dickson,p
                
                
                
                Team              Round Five            Round Six             Round Seven          Round Eight          
                Detroit           John Henry,c          Charlie Girard,p      John Flynn,1b        Art Loudell,p
                New York (N)      Roxey Roach,ss        Barney Slaughter,p    Frank Truesdale,2b   Jiggs Parson,p
                Philadelphia (A)  Arnold Hauser,ss      Mysterious Walker,p   Alex McCarthy,2b     Ody Abbott,cf
                Brooklyn          **** Rudolph,p        Billy Burke,p         Chick Lathers,3b     Charlie Mullen,1b
                St.Louis (A)      Hub Pernoll,p         Red Corriden,3b       Harry Kirsch,p       Frank Betcher,ss
                St.Louis (N)      Ed Hendricks,p        Ben Houser,1b         Ralph Good,p         Red Fisher,lf
                Cincinnati        Elmer Rieger,p        Otto Miller,c         Kip Dowd,p           Elmer Zacher,cf
                Cleveland         Wingo Anderson,p      Herman Bronkie,3b     Frank Schneiberg,p   Rowdy Elliott,cf
                Boston (A)        Lou Schettler,p       Lena Blackburne,ss    Dutch Hinrichs,p     Dave Callahan,lf
                Boston (N)        Fred Miller,p         Eddie Hohnhorst,1b    Lefty Russell,p      Art Thomason,rf
                Philadelphia (N)  Jack Ferry,p          Hack Simmons,2b       Harry Patton,p       Cotton Knaupp,ss
                Washington        Billy Kelly,c         Hugh Bradley,1b       Charlie Pickett,p    Joe Burg,3b
                Pittsburgh        Claud Derrick,ss      Bill Chambers,p       Al Carson,p          Doc Ralston,lf
                Chicago (A)       Felix Chouinard,cf    Bill Culp,p           Patrick Newnam,1b    Les Channell,lf
                Chicago (N)       Paul Meloan,rf        Jack Mercer,p         Bill Cunningham,2b   Bert Adams,c
                New York (A)      Bill Collins,lf       Walt Slagle,p         Happy Smith,rf       Jock Somerlott,1b
                
                
                Team              Round Nine            Round Ten
                Detroit           Earle Mack,3b         Ralph Pond,cf
                New York (N)      Mickey Corcoran,2b    Fred Liese,1b
                Philadelphia (A)  Tommy Mee,ss          Bert Graham,1b
                Brooklyn          Joe McDonald,3b       Jack Kading,1b
                St.Louis (A)      Ernie Lush,cf         Jim Riley,lf
                St.Louis (N)      Rube Sellers,lf       Doc Moskiman,1b
                Cincinnati        Ed Hearn,ss           Joe Walsh,c
                Cleveland         John Castle,lf        Red Kelly,rf
                Boston (A)        Joe Burns,lf          Joe Crisp,c
                Boston (N)        Larry McClure,lf      Red Bowser,1b
                Philadelphia (N)  Ray Jansen,3b         George Wheeler,1b
                Washington        Dutch Lerchen,,ss
                Pittsburgh        Jim Rutherford,cf
                Chicago (A)       Sled Allen,c
                Chicago (N)       Bob Meinke,ss
                New York (A)      Harry Cheek,c
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                • doncoryell
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                  • Jan 2003
                  • 7560

                  #68
                  Re: 1908-09 Winter Meetings

                  posts 61-64 have been updated to include 1908.
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                  • doncoryell
                    All Star
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 7560

                    #69
                    Current Hall of Fame

                    Jake Beckley, first base -- Inducted 1905
                    Code:
                    [b]AVG     G     AB     R     H     HR     RBI     SB     SLG[/B]
                    .312  2055   8050   1899  2510   70    1302    291    .437
                    Jesse Burkett, outfielder -- Inducted 1907
                    Code:
                    [b]AVG     G     AB     R     H     HR     RBI     SB     SLG[/b]
                    .341  1835   7278   1508  2479   61     898    398    .449
                    George Davis, second base -- Inducted 1908
                    Code:
                    [b]AVG     G     AB     R     H     HR     RBI     SB     SLG[/b]
                    .296  2253   8436   1458  2499   69    1317    551    .412
                    Ed Delahanty, outfielder -- Inducted 1903
                    Code:
                    [b]AVG     G     AB     R     H     HR     RBI     SB     SLG[/b]
                    .348  1819   7435   1542  2584  109    1448    462    .508
                    Billy Hamilton, outfielder -- Inducted 1908
                    Code:
                    [b]AVG     G     AB     R     H     HR     RBI     SB     SLG[/b]
                    .310  2303   8526   1953  2644   45     857   1133    .387
                    Willie Keeler, outfielder -- Inducted 1907
                    Code:
                    [b]AVG     G     AB     R     H     HR     RBI     SB     SLG[/b]
                    .340  1834   7388   1467  2514   38     940    539    .423
                    Kid Nichols, pitcher -- Inducted 1907
                    Code:
                    [b]ERA    W      L       PCT      G         IP       SO       BB      SV[/B]
                    2.94  366    217     .628     684     5226.1     1881     1390     21
                    Amos Rusie, pitcher -- Inducted 1907
                    Code:
                    [b]ERA    W      L       PCT      G         IP       SO       BB      SV[/B]
                    3.04  245    173     .586     460     3748.2     1929     1701      5
                    Cy Young, pitcher -- Inducted 1907
                    Code:
                    [b]ERA    W      L       PCT      G         IP       SO       BB      SV[/B]
                    2.87  400    283     .586     738     5080.1     2189     1102      8
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                    • doncoryell
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                      • Jan 2003
                      • 7560

                      #70
                      Re: Current Hall of Fame

                      1909 has been completed through the regular season and will be updated sometime Thursday night. Only a few more years to go before you-know-who enters the league as a pitcher. Then we'll see if/when his team turns him into an outfielder. Who know's, maybe he will end up staying a pitcher.
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                      • erich20012001
                        Pro
                        • Feb 2006
                        • 892

                        #71
                        Re: Current Hall of Fame

                        Originally posted by doncoryell
                        1909 has been completed through the regular season and will be updated sometime Thursday night. Only a few more years to go before you-know-who enters the league as a pitcher. Then we'll see if/when his team turns him into an outfielder. Who know's, maybe he will end up staying a pitcher.
                        Uh, Ankiel(sp) doesn't come for another 99 years...who are you talking bout?

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                        • doncoryell
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                          • Jan 2003
                          • 7560

                          #72
                          Re: Current Hall of Fame

                          Originally posted by erich20012001
                          Uh, Ankiel(sp) doesn't come for another 99 years...who are you talking bout?
                          A heavy set oddball whose first name is George. (and I don't mean Steinbrenner)
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                          • HealyMonster
                            Titans Era has begun.
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 5992

                            #73
                            Re: A History of Major League Baseball (1901-????) - a "what if" scenario - ootp7

                            George Lucas was a baseball player before he made star wars. get the heck out of here. lol


                            hurry up man I would like to see how the career of george plays out.

                            just to confirm they are all real player names right?

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                            • doncoryell
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                              • Jan 2003
                              • 7560

                              #74
                              Re: A History of Major League Baseball (1901-????) - a "what if" scenario - ootp7

                              Originally posted by Renegade44
                              George Lucas was a baseball player before he made star wars. get the heck out of here. lol


                              hurry up man I would like to see how the career of george plays out.

                              just to confirm they are all real player names right?

                              Yes. These are all real players who have played in the majors from 1901 thru whatever. I am using the Sean Lahman's database.


                              BTW folks, the "George" being talked about is George Herman Ruth. He should be in the first-year draft in either 1912 or 1913.
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                              • doncoryell
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                                • Jan 2003
                                • 7560

                                #75
                                1909 - MLB Year In Review

                                After winning three straight National League pennants, the Chicago Cubs entered the season confident of an unprecedented fourth consecutive title. Who could blame them with the bats of Eddie Collins and Honus Wagner plus the rotation of Three Finger Brown, Tom Hughes, Bill Wicker and Vic Willis. By the time the season got anywhere near September, the race was all but over as they ended up winning by 17 games over the second place Cincinnati Reds. The only surprise was Vic Campbell. All he did was bat .310 with a league-leading 6 home runs and 78 runs batted in, gaining him the NL Outstanding Batter award.
                                As the pennant streak continued in the National League, it did not happen in the American League. New York, winners of four straight titles themselves, could not make it five in a row. The Highlanders started out slow and could never catch up, dropping all the way to sixth place. The Boston Red Sox, riding the bat of Tris Speaker, held a four game lead over Chicago and six games over both St.Louis and Washington. All Tris Speaker did was lead the league in average (.320), home runs (8) and runs batted in (94) as he became the second player in history to win the triple crown. Not only that, but he also led the league in runs scored with 99 and was second in stolen bases with 49. The White Sox tried to keep pace during September but had to settle for second place, four games behind the pennant winning Red Sox.
                                In the World Series, the Chicago Cubs won it for the second time in three years by totally dominating Boston and swept the series, 4 games to 0. The cubbies outscored the bosox 22-11, including just allowing 1 run, total, in the last two games behind the stellar pitching of Brown and Hughes.
                                Institutions came and went for the national pastime in 1909. Harry C. Pullman's six-year reign as NL President came to an end after suffering a nervous breakdown. On the lighter side, Forbes Field in Pittsburgh and Shibe Park in Philadelphia opened their doors for the first time during the season and crowds came pouring in to take a look at the brand new ballparks. Maybe the change in ballparks will spark some change in the struggling franchises on the field as the Pirates and the Athletics, respectively, both finished far behind in their respective leagues.

                                Code:
                                American League     W   L   PCT  GB     National League     W   L   PCT  GB
                                Boston             94  60  .610  --     Chicago            98  56  .636  --
                                Chicago            90  64  .584   4     Cincinnati         81  73  .526  17
                                Washington         83  71  .539  11     Brooklyn           76  78  .494  22
                                Cleveland          77  77  .500  17     Pittsburgh         76  78  .494  22
                                St.Louis           77  77  .500  17     St.Louis           75  79  .487  23
                                New York           76  78  .494  18     Philadelphia       74  80  .481  24
                                Detroit            60  94  .390  34     New York           72  82  .468  26
                                Philadelphia       59  95  .383  35     Boston             64  90  .416  34
                                
                                
                                
                                Batting AVG           AVG               Batting AVG           AVG
                                T.Speaker, BOS       .320               E.Collins, CHN       .313
                                R.Ellis, BOS         .297               J.Kelley, NY1        .312
                                M.Donlin, NYA        .294               V.Campbell, CHN      .310
                                
                                Homeruns               HR               Homeruns               HR
                                T.Speaker, BOS          8               V.Campbell, CHN         6
                                L.Doyle, DET            7               T.Jordan, PIT           6
                                E.Beck, CLE             6               D.Hoblitzel, CIN        4
                                
                                Runs Batted In        RBI               Runs Batted In        RBI
                                T.Speaker, BOS         94               V.Campbell, CHN        78
                                E.Konetchy, WS1        85               C.Seymour, BRO         76
                                F.Schulte, BOS         83               H.Wagner, CHN          64
                                
                                Runs Scored            RS               Runs Scored            RS
                                T.Speaker, BOS         99               M.Huggins, PIT         87
                                A.Bridwell, BOS        97               J.Bates, BRO           83
                                S.Evans, NYA           90               F.Snodgrass, CHN       83
                                
                                Stolen Bases           SB               Stolen Bases           SB
                                D.Bush, CHA            52               D.Jones, NY1           60
                                T.Speaker, BOS         49               E.Collins, CHN         50
                                S.Crawford, DET        44               J.Kelley, NY1          49
                                
                                Earned Run Average    ERA               Earned Run Average    ERA
                                C.Robitaille, WS1    1.73               G.Suggs, PIT         1.58
                                R.Waddell, SLA       1.80               T.Hughes, CHN        1.67
                                G.McQuillan, CHA     1.83               H.Berger, CIN        1.76
                                
                                Wins                    W               Wins                    W
                                G.McQuillan, CHA       24               M.Brown, CHN           26
                                H.Howell, CLE          23               T.Hughes, CHN          23
                                C.Smith, CHA           23               N***cker, PHI          22
                                
                                Saves                  SV               Saves                  SV
                                R.Patterson, CHA        7               C.McGeehan, PHI         9
                                L.Pape, CLE             6               L.Fiene, PHI            5
                                T.Sparks, CLE           6               R.Tift, NY1             5
                                
                                Strikeouts             SO               Strikeouts             SO
                                O.Overall, CHA        220               W.Johnson, SLN        234
                                R.Marquard, PHA       217               E.Walsh, SLN          232
                                R.Ford, PHA           213               L.Drucke, BRO         224
                                
                                
                                
                                1909 World Series
                                
                                Game #1
                                Boston (A)   0 2 1 0 0 1 0 1 0 - 5 11 3
                                Chicago (N)  1 4 1 0 2 0 0 0 x - 8  7 2
                                J.Harris, E.Siever (8) and B.Carrigan. B.Wicker and L.McLean.
                                WP - B.Wicker (1-0)
                                LP - J.Harris (0-1)
                                HR - none
                                
                                
                                Game #2
                                Boston (A)   1 0 0 0 0 1 2 0 0 - 4 7 4
                                Chicago (N)  3 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 x - 5 7 0
                                C.McFarland and B.Carrigan. V.Willis and L.McLean.
                                WP - V.Willis (1-0)
                                LP - C.McFarland (0-1)
                                HR - T.Speaker 2 (2)
                                
                                
                                Game #3
                                Chicago (N)  0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 - 1 4 2
                                Boston (A)   0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 - 0 7 1
                                M.Brown and L.McLean. R.Collins and B.Carrigan.
                                WP - M.Brown (1-0)
                                LP - R.Collins (0-1)
                                HR - F.Snodgrass (1)
                                
                                
                                Game #4
                                Chicago (N)  0 3 0 0 1 4 0 0 0 - 8 13 0
                                Boston (A)   1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 - 1  7 2
                                T.Hughes and L.McLean. R.Vickers, E.Siever (7) and B.Carrigan.
                                WP - T.Hughes (1-0)
                                LP - R.Vickers (0-1)
                                HR - A.Burch (1)
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