Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

[superjames1992]

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SMU to the SEC is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard.

Missouri needs to make up their freaking mind. I am getting sick of their shenanigans and it is beginning to piss me off.

[sportznut02]

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SMU to the SEC is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard.

Missouri needs to make up their freaking mind. I am getting sick of their shenanigans and it is beginning to piss me off.

You worried that West By God Virgina is going to get left out in the cold?

[superjames1992]

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You worried that West By God Virgina is going to get left out in the cold?

Yes!

Missouri going doesn't completely ruin things as it opens up two things:

1.) WVU to the SEC as #15 or #16 along with maybe FSU?
2.) It opens up another spot in the Big 12.

I do think WVU ends up in either the SEC or Big 12 when it's all said and done, but the longer this thing drags out, the more I wonder. Plus, I'm sick of being addicted to following random Tweets and crap and just want it to end!

[sportzbro]

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Interesting that everything I read is essentially being generated by the Big XII and Mizzou itself... Haven't heard anything recently about the SEC or B1G really wanting the Tigers, so where's the fire? Didn't the SEC just deny a few weeks ago that they didn't invite Mizzou and B1G already rejected them last year.

Mizzou needs to **** or get off the pot.

[coogrfan]

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You worried that West By God Virgina is going to get left out in the cold?

Way, waaaaaay off topic, but I simply couldn't resist.

[Tovarich]

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What I find interesting is that all the news is essentially being generated by the Big XII and Mizzou itself... Haven't heard anything recently about the SEC or B1G really wanting the Tigers, so where's the fire?

The Big 10 basically shot them down last year. There's no reason for the Big 10 to expand any unless Notre Dame is involved, so Missouri has one option besides the Big 12-3: the SEC. From the SEC standpoint, where else are you going to go for 14? The ACC? The buyout for the ACC has been increased to 20M. That's just too astronomical, it means they're all happy where they are. Big East? Besides West Virginia, where else can you go in the Big East? They don't seem to want Clemson because they have a team in the state already, so that would likely apply to South Florida too. Other than West Virginia and Missouri, it's getting too far outside the south. Missouri and West Virginia are relatively even in football strength and Missouri is a larger TV market and can contribute better to a newly negotiated TV contract. The SEC for legal reasons will be very sly like they were with Texas A&M. But what better option does the SEC have than them considering they don't want to expand to current states and the ACC is basically untouchable? I don't know that Mizzou is leveraging the Big 12 for anything. There's equal Tier 1 and 2 revenue sharing-Missouri probably got an above average share of that before. If it's the LHN still, they aren't getting any compromises on that.

[TheGamingChef]

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Can't see Big 10 expanding now.

Can't see SEC going past 14 now.

With that in mind, I don't see any way this shakes out other than either Mizzou or West Virginia being in the SEC, and the other one being in the Big 12.

At this point, I don't really care which is which. The only thing that seems to be the case is that the SEC prefers Missouri over WVU and is giving them the first shot at it.

I just hope the Big 12 doesn't blow this (if Mizzou leaves) and adds SMU, Houston, TCU, etc. In that situation, I'll take West Virginia, Louisville, BYU, and one more (maybe Cincinnati, maybe Boise State, maybe even one of the Texas schools) to get back to 12, please.

[sportzbro]

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I don't understand why the Big XII isn't being proactive and picking up at least one team right now to make up for aTm leaving.

IMO, the Big XII should immediately add TCU, Houston, and BYU to move back to 12 for the moment, putting the pressure on Mizzou to make up their minds.

That move right there will accomplish one of 2 things:

1. Puts pressure on the SEC to grab Mizzou before they get too comfortable with the new/more stable 12 member conference. This finally enables the newly formed Big XII to replace Mizzou with Boise or Air Force and be done with it.

2. Makes Mizzou realize the league is now stable at 12 members, and comes back for the long haul. SEC then looks elsewhere - WVU/Louisville.

If #2 happens, then the Big East is screwed. That makes them 6 members with WVU or Louisville gone, and TCU skipping out. Big East needs to jump on ECU, UCF, Temple, Navy & Army right now to stay afloat as a respectable football conference (although I don't see the service academies joining a conference). That would make it 11 total... who becomes #12 if they want to go that high? - Nova, UMass?

[WVUFan]

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Missouri and West Virginia are relatively even in football strength ...

Not sure I agree with this statement. I think WVU is a much stronger program, especially in the last 5-10 years.

Then again, I may be biased.

[lonewolf371]

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Not sure I agree with this statement. I think WVU is a much stronger program, especially in the last 5-10 years.

Then again, I may be biased.

Maybe you two shouldn't have choked away your chances at settling it in the national title game.

[Tovarich]

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I don't understand why the Big XII isn't being proactive and picking up at least one team right now to make up for aTm leaving.

IMO, the Big XII should immediately add TCU, Houston, and BYU to move back to 12 for the moment, putting the pressure on Mizzou to make up their minds.

The new commish said there's very little to no support for a team from Texas joining. Why would Mizzou be under pressure if they add teams? Missouri knows if they stay they'll add teams, and if they leave, they'll add teams. This does nothing for the timeline I don't think.

1. Puts pressure on the SEC to grab Mizzou before they get too comfortable with the new/more stable 12 member conference. This finally enables the newly formed Big XII to replace Mizzou with Boise or Air Force and be done with it.

2. Makes Mizzou realize the league is now stable at 12 members, and comes back for the long haul. SEC then looks elsewhere - WVU/Louisville.

If the conference is stable, it increases the odds that Missouri can leave without a threat of a lawsuit from Baylor. It doesn't get them to stay or leave any faster IMO.

SMU would join in a heartbeat, TCU probably would too, but if the commish was serious about the lack of support for a team from Texas(and it's probably not just the Horns against this), then the Big East is going to be their main target. Is BYU going to jump into a conference that virtually everyone has tried to escape in the last 16 months? The Big 12-Big East merger in football might still be on. Assume Missouri is out, the last 8 can join up with any remaining Big East schools that don't head to the ACC-if they plan on heading for 16.

[Tovarich]

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Not sure I agree with this statement. I think WVU is a much stronger program, especially in the last 5-10 years.

Then again, I may be biased.

Quick math in my head running over schedules, says West Virginia has 10 extra wins than Missouri in the last 10 years. Given the Big 12 is stronger than the Big East, that strikes me as relatively even. But we can agree to disagree.

[superjames1992]

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Not sure I agree with this statement. I think WVU is a much stronger program, especially in the last 5-10 years.

Then again, I may be biased.

WVU's basketball program is worlds ahead of Missouri. Unfortunately, that doesn't mean much in these bizarre times of realignment...

Quick math in my head running over schedules, says West Virginia has 10 extra wins than Missouri in the last 10 years. Given the Big 12 is stronger than the Big East, that strikes me as relatively even. But we can agree to disagree.

I wouldn't disagree, although I do think WVU has a brighter future now that Stewart is out.

Also, WVU's facilities are better than Missouri's which may be a factor (though Missouri's stadium is 10,000 seats larger and obviously has more TV markets). WVU has draw in the Pittsburgh, Charleston/Huntington, and arguably in the D.C. market to some degree, but Mizzou is still in a better situation there.

One interesting thing to note is that WVU is playing James Madison next year at FedEx Field in an obvious ploy to build on the D.C. market. In addition, WVU and BYU are supposed to play at FedEx Field in 2016.

I am not sure what to believe in all of this, though. We will see what happens.

[dickey1331]

If #2 happens, then the Big East is screwed. That makes them 6 members with WVU or Louisville gone, and TCU skipping out. Big East needs to jump on ECU, UCF, Temple, Navy & Army right now to stay afloat as a respectable football conference (although I don't see the service academies joining a conference). That would make it 11 total... who becomes #12 if they want to go that high? - Nova, UMass?

The Big East won't take ECU. They would take SMU instead.


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[TDenverFan]

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So much homerism...