Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

[cflash22]

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UCONN's basketball is on probation for poor academics, the school itself is an AAU institution. In other words, it's academics are excellent.

[p_rushing]

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Did I miss anybody, and who do you guys think would be good for the ACC?

Nothing would be added to the ACC with any of those teams other than ND. ND is also not going to come to the ACC without having control of their TV rights.

Put it this way, the ACC must keep FSU. If FSU leaves, then the other football teams will also look to leave. With the horrible contract that Swofford negotiated, I don't see how the football ACC schools can stay. Other conferences are getting a lot more money and that is putting them at a bigger disadvantage.

[TDenverFan]

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UCONN's basketball is on probation for poor academics, the school itself is an AAU institution. In other words, it's academics are excellent.

Right. But, it can't go to the tourney for a year or two, huring them in the short term.

Nothing would be added to the ACC with any of those teams other than ND. ND is also not going to come to the ACC without having control of their TV rights.

Put it this way, the ACC must keep FSU. If FSU leaves, then the other football teams will also look to leave. With the horrible contract that Swofford negotiated, I don't see how the football ACC schools can stay. Other conferences are getting a lot more money and that is putting them at a bigger disadvantage.

Yeah that was more or less my point. The ACC is running out of non ND options.

[Maxattax3]

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The Texas treatment was what I meant. TAMU couldn't do what they wanted because the Texas schools had to act together.

there was no texas conspiracy. everyone voted on everything just like in every other conference.

aggy voted for "unequal revenue sharing" every time it came up (just like nebraska) except for an arbitrary vote on their way out. aggy and corn-aggy just couldnt field a decent-enough product to take advantage so they pointed the finger at big bad texas. Also, it couldnt have been the LHN because aggy was approached about being included in the deal before the network even existed.

[adice15]

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If Louisville doesn't have good enough academics for the ACC, why would UCONN? They're on academic probation or something.

Outside of ND, the ACC doesn't have a ton of good options.

Louisville: (Academic Ranking #164 acc to US News)
+Good Basketball
-Mediocre Football

UCONN (#58)
+Good Basketball
+New Market
+Potential BC Rivalry
-Bad Football
-On Probation

University of Cincinnati (#143)
+Decent Basketball/Football Programs
+Not too far from ND (Potential Rivalry?)
-Tiny Football Stadium
-Nothing Special in any major sport

Rutgers (#68)
+Good Academics
+New Territory
-Mediocre at most major sports

Navy (#14 Liberal Arts)
+Sizable National Fanbase
+Potential Rivalry with Maryland
-Awful at Basketball
-Inconsistent at Football

Army (#14 Liberal Arts)
+Respectable National Fanbase
-Afwful at basketball
-Not good at football
-Awkward location between Syracuse & BC

Temple (#132)
+Good Basketball Program
+Large Stadium (CCG)
+In Philadelphia
-Mediocre attendance
-OK football team

USF (#181)
+In Florida (Might help FSt Stay)
+Decent football team
-Academics
-Nothing special (Doesn't give anything stellar to the ACC)

UCF (#177)
+In Florida
+Good Football Team
-Academics
-Inconsistent at basketball

SMU (#62)
+Football on the Rise
+Texas Fanbase
+Academics
-Basketball
-Geographical Oddity

Houston/USM (Not Published)
+Football
+New Fan Base
?Academics
-Baskebtall is inconsistent

Tulsa (#72)
+Decent at football
+New Fanbase
+Academics
-Basketball
-Geographical Oddity

ECU (#194)
+Good attendance at football games
-Poor basketball team
-Academics
-Awful geographical location

I think that covers just about everybody. I think if they can't get ND, Rutgers and UCONN are the most likely. Some of these schools (USM, Houston, SMU, etc.) are most likely not on the ACC's radar. Honestly though, SMU would be a pretty good choice for them, IMO. Adding in SMU and Tulsa, while setting up an east-west type of thing, would not be too bad for them. Sure, basketball would take a hit, but they could improve (Tulsa had a winning record, SMU was 13-19) with better funding (From the ACC). Temple might not be bad, the CCG could be in the Linc. Granted, IDK how many people would show up to that.

Did I miss anybody, and who do you guys think would be good for the ACC?

While I would be ecstatic if it happened, I don't think Tulsa's going to the ACC or any BCS conference for a while. But about the basketball team, we had a good program in the mid to late 90's and early 00's, so theres a chance that being in the ACC could bring us back to glory. But like I said, there's basically no chance that we join the ACC anyway.

[wildthing2022000]

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If Louisville doesn't have good enough academics for the ACC, why would UCONN? They're on academic probation or something.

Outside of ND, the ACC doesn't have a ton of good options.

Louisville: (Academic Ranking #164 acc to US News)
+Good Basketball
-Mediocre Football

UCONN (#58)
+Good Basketball
+New Market
+Potential BC Rivalry
-Bad Football
-On Probation

University of Cincinnati (#143)
+Decent Basketball/Football Programs
+Not too far from ND (Potential Rivalry?)
-Tiny Football Stadium
-Nothing Special in any major sport

Rutgers (#68)
+Good Academics
+New Territory
-Mediocre at most major sports

Navy (#14 Liberal Arts)
+Sizable National Fanbase
+Potential Rivalry with Maryland
-Awful at Basketball
-Inconsistent at Football

Army (#14 Liberal Arts)
+Respectable National Fanbase
-Afwful at basketball
-Not good at football
-Awkward location between Syracuse & BC

Temple (#132)
+Good Basketball Program
+Large Stadium (CCG)
+In Philadelphia
-Mediocre attendance
-OK football team

USF (#181)
+In Florida (Might help FSt Stay)
+Decent football team
-Academics
-Nothing special (Doesn't give anything stellar to the ACC)

UCF (#177)
+In Florida
+Good Football Team
-Academics
-Inconsistent at basketball

SMU (#62)
+Football on the Rise
+Texas Fanbase
+Academics
-Basketball
-Geographical Oddity

Houston/USM (Not Published)
+Football
+New Fan Base
?Academics
-Baskebtall is inconsistent

Tulsa (#72)
+Decent at football
+New Fanbase
+Academics
-Basketball
-Geographical Oddity

ECU (#194)
+Good attendance at football games
-Poor basketball team
-Academics
-Awful geographical location

I think that covers just about everybody. I think if they can't get ND, Rutgers and UCONN are the most likely. Some of these schools (USM, Houston, SMU, etc.) are most likely not on the ACC's radar. Honestly though, SMU would be a pretty good choice for them, IMO. Adding in SMU and Tulsa, while setting up an east-west type of thing, would not be too bad for them. Sure, basketball would take a hit, but they could improve (Tulsa had a winning record, SMU was 13-19) with better funding (From the ACC). Temple might not be bad, the CCG could be in the Linc. Granted, IDK how many people would show up to that.

Did I miss anybody, and who do you guys think would be good for the ACC?

Tulane - #50
+New Market
-Athletics

[TDenverFan]

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Tulane - #50
+New Market
-Athletics

Tulane is too awful at both football and basketball to have a shot. My high school has a larger court than them. They do have great academics, but that's about it.

[TDenverFan]

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VCU is joining the Atlantic 10

[superjames1992]

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I am hearing rumors of WVU and Alabama opening the 2014 season in Atlanta.

[rangerrick012]

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ODU is leaving the CAA to join the CUSA, which means they'll go from FCS to FBS in 2015.

http://hamptonroads.com/2012/05/odu-leaving-caa-joining-conferenceusa-2013

[TheBrothers24]

ODU is leaving the CAA to join the CUSA, which means they'll go from FCS to FBS in 2013.

http://hamptonroads.com/2012/05/odu-...erenceusa-2013

Congrats for the big step up in both competition & money. With us going to the A10 & you guys going to the CUSA, hopefully they get the rivalry an annual game.

[capn_razzamataz]

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JMU fans are all like:

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While VCU fans are like:


and ODU fans are all like:

[TheRegan]

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According to FBSchedules, Old Dominion is joining C-USA in all non-football sports in 2013, then moving up football in 2015

Link: http://www.fbschedules.com/2012/05/o...ence-usa-2013/

[rangerrick012]

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According to FBSchedules, Old Dominion is joining C-USA in all non-football sports in 2013, then moving up football in 2015

Link: http://www.fbschedules.com/2012/05/o...ence-usa-2013/

That's a good idea. Even though the football team has been good, it's still not ready for DI and would get crushed if we made the move too soon. This gives us time to recruit and use the luster of DI to get some better talent.

[BurghFan]

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That's a good idea. Even though the football team has been good, it's still not ready for DI and would get crushed if we made the move too soon. This gives us time to recruit and use the luster of DI to get some better talent.

Yeah, that's probably what's going to happen to UTSA this year. They actually have 2 D-II (not FCS) teams on their schedule in Texas A&M-Commerce and NW Oklahoma.