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  • Perfect Zero
    1B, OF
    • Jun 2005
    • 4012

    #2551
    Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

    Originally posted by seasprite
    The two rivalries in the article I posted have been playing since 1892 (AU/UGA) and 1901 (UA/UT). They are two of the most hated and long standing rivalries in college football.
    My point still stands. I once put my proposal for a sixteen team league, and there were complaints from about every single SEC fan about certain rivalries being split up. If the SEC is going to move forward with this, they have to do some things that are going to be controversial. They can't have their pie and eat it too.
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    • seasprite
      Phenom
      • Jul 2008
      • 8984

      #2552
      Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

      Originally posted by Perfect Zero
      My point still stands. I once put my proposal for a sixteen team league, and there were complaints from about every single SEC fan about certain rivalries being split up. If the SEC is going to move forward with this, they have to do some things that are going to be controversial. They can't have their pie and eat it too.
      Tradition is a huge part of college football. While I like progress and some change, some things should not go away. Just my opinion, but rivalries that are over 110 years old should stay intact somehow and Slive needs to make sure that while you are progressing towards the future, you dont kill the history and tradition that has brought you here. my .02






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      • Perfect Zero
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        • Jun 2005
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        #2553
        Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

        Originally posted by seasprite
        Tradition is a huge part of college football. While I like progress and some change, some things should not go away. Just my opinion, but rivalries that are over 110 years old should stay intact somehow and Slive needs to make sure that while you are progressing towards the future, you dont kill the history and tradition that has brought you here. my .02
        Boy you're right. Tradition means so much in fact, that the Aggies killed off their large rivalry with Texas after nearly a century of battling it out. Tradition means so much that Syracuse and Georgetown, one of the better basketball rivalries in the sport, shut it down for the Orange football program. Tradition means so much, that we're talking about a playoff in the sport with no maximum number in sight.

        Tradition is this false idol in college sports; the true pinnacle is based on how much money you can make. If tradition was truly the golden standard, the SEC would have ten teams, the SWC would have never broken apart, etc... It's about moving around to milk the most money. The SEC can get that sweet television money by spiting up the divisions, adding two teams, and rotating the schedule (which is one of the things that makes the NFL less predictable). You make new rivals with closer teams, and you have inter-divisional rivalries with successful teams.

        When Pandora's box was opened with the help of the networks and people demanding playoffs and pay for players, tradition took the first dagger through the heart. Tradition is dying, and there isn't anything that can put the beast back in the box. The sooner fans realize this, the better it will be.
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        • superjames1992
          Hall Of Fame
          • Jun 2007
          • 31382

          #2554
          Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows



          Looks like Rutgers may get to play Syracuse twice next year.
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          • coogrfan
            In Fritz We Trust
            • Jul 2002
            • 15645

            #2555
            Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

            Originally posted by Perfect Zero
            Boy you're right. Tradition means so much in fact, that the Aggies killed off their large rivalry with Texas after nearly a century of battling it out. Tradition means so much that Syracuse and Georgetown, one of the better basketball rivalries in the sport, shut it down for the Orange football program. Tradition means so much, that we're talking about a playoff in the sport with no maximum number in sight.

            Tradition is this false idol in college sports; the true pinnacle is based on how much money you can make. If tradition was truly the golden standard, the SEC would have ten teams, the SWC would have never broken apart, etc... It's about moving around to milk the most money. The SEC can get that sweet television money by spiting up the divisions, adding two teams, and rotating the schedule (which is one of the things that makes the NFL less predictable). You make new rivals with closer teams, and you have inter-divisional rivalries with successful teams.

            When Pandora's box was opened with the help of the networks and people demanding playoffs and pay for players, tradition took the first dagger through the heart. Tradition is dying, and there isn't anything that can put the beast back in the box. The sooner fans realize this, the better it will be.
            Better for who?

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            • Perfect Zero
              1B, OF
              • Jun 2005
              • 4012

              #2556
              Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

              Originally posted by coogrfan
              Better for who?
              The fans who are going to have to live with the presidents' decisions. That slippery slope is really greasey.
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              • Maxattax3
                MVP
                • Aug 2008
                • 2265

                #2557
                Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

                Originally posted by seasprite
                Tradition is a huge part of college football. While I like progress and some change, some things should not go away. Just my opinion, but rivalries that are over 110 years old should stay intact somehow and Slive needs to make sure that while you are progressing towards the future, you dont kill the history and tradition that has brought you here. my .02
                tell that to aggy
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                • nortobc
                  Banned
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 1130

                  #2558
                  Originally posted by Perfect Zero
                  Boy you're right. Tradition means so much in fact, that the Aggies killed off their large rivalry with Texas after nearly a century of battling it out. Tradition means so much that Syracuse and Georgetown, one of the better basketball rivalries in the sport, shut it down for the Orange football program. Tradition means so much, that we're talking about a playoff in the sport with no maximum number in sight.

                  Tradition is this false idol in college sports; the true pinnacle is based on how much money you can make. If tradition was truly the golden standard, the SEC would have ten teams, the SWC would have never broken apart, etc... It's about moving around to milk the most money. The SEC can get that sweet television money by spiting up the divisions, adding two teams, and rotating the schedule (which is one of the things that makes the NFL less predictable). You make new rivals with closer teams, and you have inter-divisional rivalries with successful teams.

                  When Pandora's box was opened with the help of the networks and people demanding playoffs and pay for players, tradition took the first dagger through the heart. Tradition is dying, and there isn't anything that can put the beast back in the box. The sooner fans realize this, the better it will be.
                  Wrong. Texas killed it.

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                  • Perfect Zero
                    1B, OF
                    • Jun 2005
                    • 4012

                    #2559
                    Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

                    Originally posted by nortobc
                    Wrong. Texas killed it.
                    Both schools are at fault; the blame doesn't rest with one.
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                    • seasprite
                      Phenom
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 8984

                      #2560
                      Originally posted by Maxattax3
                      tell that to aggy
                      Aggy don't care.......the further from Texas they can get, the better. They are like the abused wife who never gets any mutual respect.

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                      • Noble Evildoer
                        Pro
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 717

                        #2561
                        Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

                        Originally posted by seasprite
                        Aggy don't care.......the further from Texas they can get, the better. They are like the abused wife who never gets any mutual respect.

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                        I'm sure they'll be much happier being habitual underachievers in a tougher conference with their fellow underachievers from Missouri.
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                        • caasoccer
                          Banned
                          • Feb 2012
                          • 201

                          #2562
                          Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

                          C-USA and MWC will dissolve and form a new conference. Now a 16 team playoff only has to give ten auto bids

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                          • Maxattax3
                            MVP
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 2265

                            #2563
                            Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

                            Originally posted by seasprite
                            Aggy don't care.......the further from Texas they can get, the better. They are like the abused wife who never gets any mutual respect.

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                            What did Texas do to them exactly? You do know that Texas offered a TV partnership to aggy before the LHN network was a thing, right?http://espn.go.com/college-sports/st...oss-dodds-says

                            Tammy (and Nebraska, for that matter) voted for unequal sharing every time it came up (except 1 or 2 arbitrary votes on the way out of the conference). Neither team could put a good enough product on the field to take advantage... so that is somehow Texas' fault. Maybe if Tamu was more than a .500 team all-time in big12 play, and maybe if Nebraska didnt run their program into the ground... they both could have made more money and wouldnt have had to lift their skirt to another conference to make themselves feel better. It is hard to fault nebraska though, as they seem to be a very good fit in the Big10.
                            Oh by the way the Big12 now has equal sharing (chosen by vote. just like the previous unequal revenue sharing was always decided by vote).

                            Its just a classic case of Aggy thinking they are something that they arent. They suffer from delusions of grandeur. They wanted to be one of the elites in the conference but just couldnt get it together. When things didnt go their way, they cried and pointed at big bad Texas. Have fun in the sec with the agroids. You'll see what I mean in a few seasons.
                            Last edited by Maxattax3; 02-13-2012, 05:40 PM.
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                            • XBox_Roughneck
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 1728

                              #2564
                              Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

                              Originally posted by caasoccer
                              C-USA and MWC will dissolve and form a new conference. Now a 16 team playoff only has to give ten auto bids

                              The structure of the new conference will likely include:



                              Membership of 18 to 24 universities
                              National scope from the Atlantic Seaboard to Hawaii
                              Championship football game format that includes semifinal match-ups
                              Championship basketball tournament
                              Regular season scheduling in divisions
                              NCAA FBS affiliation
                              Mechanisms to emphasize and improve academic standards and fiscal responsibility

                              The presidents and chancellors will have follow-up meetings over the next six months to fully develop the operational issues essential to the formation of the association.


                              Hope San Jose State gets a seat at the table.

                              Good times aplenty for the also rans. 4 team conference playoff. Yum.



                              Hope this option is built into NCAA 13.
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                              • TDenverFan
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                                • Jan 2011
                                • 3457

                                #2565
                                Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

                                Sweet. Wionder if it will be AQ?
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