Madden NFL 17 Tuning Update Available Now, Here Are The Details (9-23)

[SECElit3]

Madden NFL 17 Tuning Update Available Now, Here Are The Details (9-23)

Yeah, we can all look up tweets, guy. It's one somewhat recognizable name tweeting about this. Let's not overstate it as some swell of momentum.



The problem is you continue to make definitive statements like:









and you're not coming with definitive proof to back these issues up. How is anybody supposed to have a constructive conversation with this?



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And we can go back to your earlier posts in this thread for more definitive statements.

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All of these before you even played one second of the game with the tuner to judge any of its' effects.



Look, despite all the typing I've done in this thread, I really, really don't care if you like or dislike the game. I'm not trying to convince you or anyone else. Everyone makes their own decision on a game. I'm saying if you're going to make claims before playing that the game is drastically changed and continue to make them after trying the tuner, it's only fair to expect you to back them up with evidence. You haven't.

Ok, fair enough.

I haven't uploaded any proof, because I am not aware of how to do this.

What is the best way to upload videos to Operation Sports? I'll see if I can figure out something out.

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[denverbro89]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Tuning Update Available Now, Here Are The Details (9-23)

Insta shed, you mean speed rush. Gtfoh ea. Pass rush is garbage. Every year one side of the dline gets shafted, and can never get pressure, usually the right end, which is usually your best pass rusher.

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[Jm0ney2001]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Tuning Update Available Now, Here Are The Details (9-23)

Ever since this tuner I have had really weird offensive shootouts. I don't know what to do with this game anymore. It's just seems like if I'm going to play default I need to lower the mins quite a bit or if I want s 60 min game I need to adjust some sliders to get realistic stats which is exactly what I don't want to do. I really hate the casual crowd ughh.

[charter04]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Tuning Update Available Now, Here Are The Details (9-23)

I get what a few are saying about the organic tackles being less now. I would have to play without the tuner again to get a better look though.

As far as everything else I just don't see the "nerfing" everyone is talking about. Go to my YouTube channel. The last two games where played with the tuner.

Both games our QB's had about 2-4 seconds to pass all game. I haven't seen any less pass rush.

We play head to head games with All Madden.

Our league average for week 2 (before the tuner was 3.6 sacks a team per game). Week 3 after the tuner 3.9

I'm still seeing wide open drops and contact drops.

We are seeing more defensive games. Better run d.

Still seeing plenty of sack fumbles and fumbles in general.

Guys are still missing a lot more FG's and extra points than madden 25-16

Some guys still had big rushing games. The guy I just played had 131 yards rushing against me.

My point is if we are talking feel and organic tackling stuff fine. If we are talking game breaking and nerfing of this or that I do not see the results on the field in head to head All Madden games. I can not agree with something I'm not seeing and have video of without seeing some proof from others.

The last game I played was great. I won 19-17. It was a defensive battle with fumbles, and lots of real FB and it took a lot of strategy and we play 13 min quarters to get about 64 plays per game per team.

Anyway. It's just my opinion but, I have two full games of proof.


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[redsox4evur]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Tuning Update Available Now, Here Are The Details (9-23)

Insta shed, you mean speed rush. Gtfoh ea. Pass rush is garbage. Every year one side of the dline gets shafted, and can never get pressure, usually the right end, which is usually your best pass rusher.

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Guys this video is the insta-shed being talked about. And if this is happening a lot I am fine with it getting tuned down as most people wouldn't have time to complete a pass. The guy is in the QB's face within a second of snapping the ball.



https://twitter.com/GiantBlue76/stat...91043370131456

They mean plays like that. Where some bum like Geno Grissom gets passed Tyron Smith (the best OL) in the league and it happened a lot per game. Like 5 or 6 times.


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[charter04]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Tuning Update Available Now, Here Are The Details (9-23)

Highlights of the last game I played in our Online Franchise. Lots of variety. QB's got pressured all game. I'm just not sure what could be wrong with this gameplay.

https://youtu.be/XgSqMQ3DgCA

[Elway7]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Tuning Update Available Now, Here Are The Details (9-23)

Highlights of the last game I played in our Online Franchise. Lots of variety. QB's got pressured all game. I'm just not sure what could be wrong with this gameplay.

https://youtu.be/XgSqMQ3DgCA

I see lots wrong.
Fumbles
Sacks
Stiff player animations

[charter04]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Tuning Update Available Now, Here Are The Details (9-23)

I see lots wrong.

Fumbles

Sacks

Stiff player animations

Fumbles and sacks are wrong? Lol. Stiff animations are there with or without the tuner.

Not sure what your points are


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[charter04]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Tuning Update Available Now, Here Are The Details (9-23)

I showed highlights post tuner. I'm on the side with those who like the game. I like it before and after the tuner. I'll just leave it at that. Both sides are starting to sound redundant. I'm just going to have to agree to disagree with some.


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[sebas49]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Tuning Update Available Now, Here Are The Details (9-23)

Hey folks, after last tuning update i'm having hard time trying stop the Agressive Catch. In my last two games (CFM Online, user vs user) i'm getting burn by WR too often in jump balls, even with double coverage. My opponents throw like 15 or more deep balls every game and their receivers catchs the ball almost every time...First game, vs Steelers, Martavis Bryant get 296 yards in 12 catchs. No matter what i try to stop (Swat ball, play receiver, play ball or simple no switch to CB), Bryant catch the ball almost every time against my top CB (Stephen Gilmore) with safety help on coverage. Next game vs Browns, similar results with Josh Mcown throwing to Josh Gordon, Terrelle Pryorn and Andrew Hawkins...Those 3 guys combined to 10 rec, 312 yards and 3 TD's with my opponent using the same 4 verts repeatedly.

It's very frustating see this...Even in snow game, in open field with wind, low rated QB like McCown making perfect deep throws for 50 + yds every time to receivers in double coverage and complete the pass 80% of the time. Other players have complaining about this after tuning update too. I want to know your opinions too, but for me, it feels like playing M16 again.

[JayD]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Tuning Update Available Now, Here Are The Details (9-23)

Game is still playing great for me. Not sure what people are complaining about?

[Dexter75]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Tuning Update Available Now, Here Are The Details (9-23)

Im seeing 2-3 guys wide open almost every play and horrible defense all around.

[JayD]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Tuning Update Available Now, Here Are The Details (9-23)

Im seeing 2-3 guys wide open almost every play and horrible defense all around.

I'm seeing the complete opposite. I'm seeing tighter coverage and corners actually attempting to swat away the pass more often than before the tuner.

[Dcourtne]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Tuning Update Available Now, Here Are The Details (9-23)

Here is my experience with this tuning update:

Playing: Online cfm, All-Pro, default sliders

Record before tuning update: 7-0, balanced attack. Usually had a 100yd rusher.

Record after tuning update: 3-3, passing game is working, running game is non existent. Defense is generally worse - lack of turnovers. Of the three losses two were in OT and the other by 3 in regulation.

To elaborate, in the running game the outside run is not as effective as before the update. Specifically I'm seeing the computer safeties react quicker and LBs are shedding blocks easier. Outside runs were overpowered before so change is welcome but I'm not adjusting well.

On defense QB completion% has gone way up. I'm not seeing dropped passes even when I smack the WR immediately with a hard hit. Makes third downs of all lengths hard to stop. Nothing is more frustrating than giving up a 3rd and 20. It's happening with much more frequency post-update.

I don't mind the changes and updating my playing style to compensate is part of the fun, but the CPU passing feels a little out of my control to compensate for. How do you defend guys who never drop passes?

[charter04]

Re: Madden NFL 17 Tuning Update Available Now, Here Are The Details (9-23)

Im seeing 2-3 guys wide open almost every play and horrible defense all around.

Must be on rookie or pro cause it's not like that on All Pro or All Madden at all in games I've played.


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