As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

[Rebel10]

Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

I think the GameChangers aren't allowed to give previews and information about the game other than just directly commenting on their videos, until this Friday.

ANother GameChanger in a video said he'll have commentary and thoughts about M'18 once the embargo lifts this week. Seems like EA would allow them to upload videos and talk about what happens in the game (e.g., 'Great catch by Dez Bryant!') but not give gameplay thoughts or details.

*edit*

Just FYI, the gifs in the post a few posts up from this one, a lot of them are from 2016. But that Russel gif... man that's amazingly bad hahahah.

[bucky60]

Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

Have you downloaded the demo to the EA basketball game? It's not stale and it's not a bad game of basketball, but that is a different thread.

I agree, if people aren't happy with what Madden is producing up to this point, wait a week or more.

I heard that Live was horrible, from ones that have played the demo.

[infemous]

Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

I heard that Live was horrible, from ones that have played the demo.

can confirm i played once then deleted it immediately.

inclusion of First Take is also not a selling point lol

[infemous]

Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

As has this conversation.

precisely.

personally, I just hope that the time people invest in this game; testing, modding, adjusting sliders or posting on this forum isn't wasted by EA.

They literally have hundreds upon hundreds of pages of in depth, articulate, passionate information that they have ignored for years and years.

The cold hard truth is that Madden is a badly made game, by a company with no excuses for delivering such a sub par product except greed (not wanting to invest in staff or tech to protect the already crazy profit margins they create on this game.)

[Mav3rek7]

Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

/rantOn
I must admit, the red flags are everywhere for Madden 18 for me. I still reserve complete judgement until I've played the thing, but my goodness...

The one thing that I think is going to make or break the game this year for me is getting to play 10 hours with EA Access a week early.

I'm going to spend 5 bucks for a 10 hour trial. After those 10 hours are up, I'll have a really good idea of how the game will play. If I like it, I'll buy it. If it's awful and the legacy issues are just as prevalent as last year, then I'll pass.

I have purchased Madden every year for 20+ years, but it's getting to a point that I just can't stand it any longer.

To me, last years Madden was one of the worst. I still to this date have yet to enjoy it enough to complete multiple seasons in a franchise, and I've always played through many many seasons. It's what I do. It's why I loved this game. I'm strictly an offline franchise player and it appears, unfortunately, that I am part of a dying breed or at least one that is overlooked because I spend 60 bucks on the game, and they never see another dime from me.

MUT packs mean nothing to me. I don't play MUT, I don't enjoy MUT. I don't play online because, frankly, online play is a mostly negative experience for me. Either I play against someone who cheeses the game constantly, or they quit/try to make life miserable until I want to quit. This isn't enjoyable for me, personally.

I'm not a cash cow for Madden/EA so I'm in the group that is pushed aside for the more lucrative ones. I get it. I'm not upset by it. It's a business decision. If I were running a corporation, I'd probably do the same.

But there are issues with the game play that just simply are inexcusable any longer. I realize that (and I'm assuming here) game play changes/fixes are tailored to online competitive play because that's where the money is. I get it, but the offline franchise player is getting the short end of the stick. Honestly, there is even less incentive for me to buy it this year knowing that franchise was not a priority for them, but here I am, 2+ weeks before release, excited to try the game.

I want to love the game, I want to enjoy it. I want to get fully immersed into a franchise where I go to sleep at night and all I can think about is getting up in the morning and diving right back in. I want to pass the time cutting grass by going over the recent weeks game in my head and trying to figure out where to go next. I want to agonize over player personnel decisions. I want to feel invested in the game and in the team I roll with. I want to be obsessed with the game, but I just can't....

I don't want to have to worry about the wind being messed up, or a QB just standing in the pocket and waiting to be cuddled to the ground. I don't want to watch as a defensive lineman dives to make a tackle on a QB and bounces off the ground on his belly and is sucked up into the QB to make a tackle.

I'm currently in a bad relationship with Madden, and I'm trying to make things work, but she just doesn't seem to care...and it hurts, and I can't bring myself to leave her.

/endRant

TL-DR -- EA Access will let me know if I buy the game or not. Getting a 10 hour trial, for me anyway, is huge and if it sucks, I'll let them know by not buying the game.

[roadman]

Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

I heard that Live was horrible, from ones that have played the demo.

Sorry, no further comment, as Kehlis has suggested to discuss the topic on hand.

And keeping with that suggestion, I do hope they consider addressing it this Madden and do it correctly.

[Swagger Jack]

Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

The reason devs won't come near a thread like this is because it has delved into the same discussion nearly every other thread has.

The title says we can't accept the current AI quarterback play, and I don't disagree. Yet that has hardly been discussed in this thread.

Ok but can you address my other point though? We know THEY KNOW about this issue and they won't speak on it, what else could we do other than not buy it? If we can't get a response? And even if the topic of this thread does get off point we all simply WANT the issue to be FIXED or at least acknowledged.

Let me restate the original premise. We as a community CANNOT accept the current CPU QB play, and the "not accepting" part involves not buying the game or buying the game used and I think that is EXTREMELY relevant. I can't say that that's the way other threads should have gone, but this one specifically...How else can I say it? If it was ever justified to say it I think this is the place to say it until we hear from those guys.

[infemous]

Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

/rantOn
I must admit, the red flags are everywhere for Madden 18 for me. I still reserve complete judgement until I've played the thing, but my goodness...

The one thing that I think is going to make or break the game this year for me is getting to play 10 hours with EA Access a week early.

I'm going to spend 5 bucks for a 10 hour trial. After those 10 hours are up, I'll have a really good idea of how the game will play. If I like it, I'll buy it. If it's awful and the legacy issues are just as prevalent as last year, then I'll pass.

I have purchased Madden every year for 20+ years, but it's getting to a point that I just can't stand it any longer.

To me, last years Madden was one of the worst. I still to this date have yet to enjoy it enough to complete multiple seasons in a franchise, and I've always played through many many seasons. It's what I do. It's why I loved this game. I'm strictly an offline franchise player and it appears, unfortunately, that I am part of a dying breed or at least one that is overlooked because I spend 60 bucks on the game, and they never see another dime from me.

MUT packs mean nothing to me. I don't play MUT, I don't enjoy MUT. I don't play online because, frankly, online play is a mostly negative experience for me. Either I play against someone who cheeses the game constantly, or they quit/try to make life miserable until I want to quit. This isn't enjoyable for me, personally.

I'm not a cash cow for Madden/EA so I'm in the group that is pushed aside for the more lucrative ones. I get it. I'm not upset by it. It's a business decision. If I were running a corporation, I'd probably do the same.

But there are issues with the game play that just simply are inexcusable any longer. I realize that (and I'm assuming here) game play changes/fixes are tailored to online competitive play because that's where the money is. I get it, but the offline franchise player is getting the short end of the stick. Honestly, there is even less incentive for me to buy it this year knowing that franchise was not a priority for them, but here I am, 2+ weeks before release, excited to try the game.

I want to love the game, I want to enjoy it. I want to get fully immersed into a franchise where I go to sleep at night and all I can think about is getting up in the morning and diving right back in. I want to pass the time cutting grass by going over the recent weeks game in my head and trying to figure out where to go next. I want to agonize over player personnel decisions. I want to feel invested in the game and in the team I roll with. I want to be obsessed with the game, but I just can't....

I don't want to have to worry about the wind being messed up, or a QB just standing in the pocket and waiting to be cuddled to the ground. I don't want to watch as a defensive lineman dives to make a tackle on a QB and bounces off the ground on his belly and is sucked up into the QB to make a tackle.

I'm currently in a bad relationship with Madden, and I'm trying to make things work, but she just doesn't seem to care...and it hurts, and I can't bring myself to leave her.

/endRant

TL-DR -- EA Access will let me know if I buy the game or not. Getting a 10 hour trial, for me anyway, is huge and if it sucks, I'll let them know by not buying the game.

Worst thing is that the gameplay being balanced would probably convert a gamer such as yourself to playing MUT online because conceptually the team building aspect is really cool.

FIFA is a great example of an EA game that has plenty of issues, especially regarding tactics, but the solid-ness and enjoyability of the gameplay means that while career mode is unplayable, FUT or Online Ranked games or even Pro Clubs are fun and have shifted me as a strictly career guy into someone who enjoys those modes and plays them exclusively.

#MakeMaddenGreatAgain

[NDAlum]

Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

One of the best posts I've ever read

We're Madden soulmates

[roadman]

Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

Ok but can you address my other point though? We know THEY KNOW about this issue and they won't speak on it, what else could we do other than not buy it? If we can't get a response? And even if the topic of this thread does get off point we all simply WANT the issue to be FIXED or at least acknowledged.

Let me restate the original premise. We as a community CANNOT accept the current CPU QB play, and the "not accepting" part involves not buying the game or buying the game used and I think that is EXTREMELY relevant. I can't say that that's the way other threads should have gone, but this one specifically...How else can I say it? If it was ever justified to say it I think this is the place to say it until we hear from those guys.

I'm not sure what you mean by they won't speak on it.

Clint has already said they are looking at, which is better than having it ignored on Twitter.

Clint stated this before this thread was born and I posted it in one or two of the video threads.

I'm not sure what more we can get out of them than that at this point.

In my opinion, it's been acknowledged.

Here is the short Twitter exchange:

Just a concern I noticed: it appears that CPU qbs do not move in the pocket or scramble. Is there a tuning that can fix it?

We're looking at that

[danzy678]

As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

no demo?



damn was SO close to buying

There has not been a demo for madden since madden 25(in 2013) lol


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[infemous]

Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

There has not been a demo for madden since madden 25(in 2013) lol


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lol tbh i think that was the last madden i owned before i erroneously pre-ordered M16 when I got a PS4... haven't played Madden since.

[jmarcguy]

Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

I just watched a video of the Miami vs Buffalo. Tannehill gets sacked on THREE consecutive plays. The first sack isn't bad because he at least looks alive. On the next two sacks, he stands there like it's a glitch. No movement at all and there was plenty of room to run on one of the sacks.

I didn't buy Madden from 2003 - 2015. Finally bought the game on PS3 the last two years although they weren't the current versions. This year I wanted to get it for PS4. Is Madden 17 just as bad? If there's not much improvement, then I'll just get the older game cheap.


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[infemous]

Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

I just watched a video of the Miami vs Buffalo. Tannehill gets sacked on THREE consecutive plays. The first sack isn't bad because he at least looks alive. On the next two sacks, he stands there like it's a glitch. No movement at all and there was plenty of room to run on one of the sacks.

I didn't buy Madden from 2003 - 2015. Finally bought the game on PS3 the last two years although they weren't the current versions. This year I wanted to get it for PS4. Is Madden 17 just as bad? If there's not much improvement, then I'll just get the older game cheap.


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I went from Madden 03 to Madden 10 lol literally played Madden 03 until the day I got my PS3 - updated rosters manually and generally had the most fun playing that game.

Bought every Madden from 10 to 25 and then as my PS3 started to die on me, I left gaming until I bought a PS4 in 2015... Pre-ordered M16 just for the love of football and was put off since.

In all honesty I would recommend just getting Madden 16. Every year since then I have seen zero difference. Although the soundtrack this year definitely is a huge improvement on M16 - which was horrendously bad.

[timhere1970]

Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

Worst thing is that the gameplay being balanced would probably convert a gamer such as yourself to playing MUT online because conceptually the team building aspect is really cool.

FIFA is a great example of an EA game that has plenty of issues, especially regarding tactics, but the solid-ness and enjoyability of the gameplay means that while career mode is unplayable, FUT or Online Ranked games or even Pro Clubs are fun and have shifted me as a strictly career guy into someone who enjoys those modes and plays them exclusively.

#MakeMaddenGreatAgain

I have thought about fifa and the hockey game before to get my franchise fix since madden is 1999 basic. I have never bothered with them because they are made by ea and my experience with madden shows ea does not care about on depth franchise. Frankly, nba 2k works for me and beyond that I would rather play franchise badminton than another ea sports game. Madden is the only choice of about football game so they have me prisoner there but I don't know if I am even going to bother with a franchise this year.
May just play a bunch of different seasons as different players and see if I can set some single season records. I am going to treat it as an arcade game since madden should be embarrassed to even mutter the word sim at this point.