Anyone find any semblance of a running game yet?

[Instant C1a55ic]

Re: Anyone find any semblance of a running game yet?

I've heard if you adjust the fumbles slider for the CPU (increase it) then it would make them run in more of a straight line but I've not tried it yet myself


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I'm not sure about this. There are a TON of players with the big hit trait, and this I would imagine would increase the effectiveness of it.

The main thing I see with fresh out the box Madden, is the backs spining and juking behind the line of scrimmage. The lowering I suggested had been tested in Armors slider thread and works. The CPU went from 51 or less yards a game, to 120 in the last game I had.

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[feeq14]

Re: Anyone find any semblance of a running game yet?

This goes in with what I was saying earlier in the thread. I think it’s great if you have to read the defense and identify the strengths and weaknesses of the field. But the problem with “scheming on offense” is that the schemes are not being run correctly. Linemen are blocking random people and leaving key threats unblocked.

I’m going to go into a practice session later and dive a bit more into this.

Since i put it on normal speed and did everything i listed here (i meant to say decrease speed threshold) I haven't had the issue of blockers completely missing assignments. I haven't seen threats go unblocked unless they are blitzing or making fast reads and crashing in. I never see linemen let guys go unblocked once I slowed down my use of the L stick.

[ODogg]

Re: Anyone find any semblance of a running game yet?

I'm not sure about this. There are a TON of players with the big hit trait, and this I would imagine would increase the effectiveness of it.

The main thing I see with fresh out the box Madden, is the backs spining and juking behind the line of scrimmage. The lowering I suggested had been tested in Armors slider thread and works. The CPU went from 51 or less yards a game, to 120 in the last game I had.

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Well i'm confused now because in another thread a guy was having too many fumbles and he said he kept lowering (moving down or to the left) the fumbles slider and people came in there and said to have less fumbles you move it to the right and increase it.

I recall from the "getting the CPU to run straight and use less special moves" comments someone made that they simply made it so the CPU would fumble less and then they did run more straight.

So bottom line, if you want the CPU to run more straight line and use less special moves what do we do with the fumble slider in your opinion?

[xCoachDx]

Re: Anyone find any semblance of a running game yet?

Since i put it on normal speed and did everything i listed here (i meant to say decrease speed threshold) I haven't had the issue of blockers completely missing assignments. I haven't seen threats go unblocked unless they are blitzing or making fast reads and crashing in. I never see linemen let guys go unblocked once I slowed down my use of the L stick.

Hmm, I haven’t messed with the threshold, but I haven’t played on anything other than normal speed.

I started to say I would try some left stick tweaking, but in one of the pics I posted, my RB hasn’t even gotten the handoff yet and the blocking assignments are messed up.

I’m seeing a lot of people talking about too many double teams in the wrong place. I’m going to look more into it later today and see what I can see.

[Instant C1a55ic]

Re: Anyone find any semblance of a running game yet?

Well i'm confused now because in another thread a guy was having too many fumbles and he said he kept lowering (moving down or to the left) the fumbles slider and people came in there and said to have less fumbles you move it to the right and increase it.

I recall from the "getting the CPU to run straight and use less special moves" comments someone made that they simply made it so the CPU would fumble less and then they did run more straight.

So bottom line, if you want the CPU to run more straight line and use less special moves what do we do with the fumble slider in your opinion?

I would suggest heading over to Armor and Swords slider thread. He breaks everything down in the first post, and has a revision that is set in stone in the second post. The guy is beyond a slider genius, and taught me many things that I am trying to pass onto others. Just want everyone to have a great experience this year.

As far as the fumble slider, you move it to the right, you will get more fumbles I assume. I am just worried about the big hit trait guys, and the backs that dont have the correct ball cover trait. They will blast that thing out a lot more then usual. Changing the traits as mentioned, as well as the attribute changes, I have seen many great things. I encourage you to at least try it and let me know how it went.

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[ODogg]

Re: Anyone find any semblance of a running game yet?

Ok I will check that out.

Here is the thread I was talking about, the consensus in this thread seems to be move to the slider right for the CPU fumbles and it will cause them to run straight line more often.

https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/madden-nfl-football/936866-fumbles.html

[canes21]

Re: Anyone find any semblance of a running game yet?

You move the slider to the left, a lower number, to get more fumbles. It says it right in the description when editing the slides.

[ODogg]

Re: Anyone find any semblance of a running game yet?

You move the slider to the left, a lower number, to get more fumbles. It says it right in the description when editing the slides.

Does it really? I haven't noticed because I've not messed with it but that guy in the thread was so mad he got a lot of fumbles and then he decreased (to the left) the slider and kept having the problem.

Pretty humorous (not for him I suppose) that thinking he was fixing it he was making it much worse, and then even more funny (again not for him) that it says that in the game and he didn't see it.

Wow.

[canes21]

Re: Anyone find any semblance of a running game yet?

Does it really? I haven't noticed because I've not messed with it but that guy in the thread was so mad he got a lot of fumbles and then he decreased (to the left) the slider and kept having the problem.

Pretty humorous (not for him I suppose) that thinking he was fixing it he was making it much worse, and then even more funny (again not for him) that it says that in the game and he didn't see it.

Wow.

It definitely says it. Just snapped this 10 seconds ago. It is pretty funny he went through that trouble and was only making it worse, lol.

[swankyjax]

Re: Anyone find any semblance of a running game yet?

Wait...is interceptions the same way? I tried lowering it when I got frustrated by cpu linebackers (my team included) making leaping interceptions on most of the the throws over the middle.

It definitely says it. Just snapped this 10 seconds ago. It is pretty funny he went through that trouble and was only making it worse, lol.

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[lions2k9]

Re: Anyone find any semblance of a running game yet?

It definitely says it. Just snapped this 10 seconds ago. It is pretty funny he went through that trouble and was only making it worse, lol.

What’s weird is I have no description in either the user or cpu fumbles section.

[canes21]

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What’s weird is I have no description in either the user or cpu fumbles section.

Are you looking at it from the main menu or elsewhere?

[lions2k9]

Re: Anyone find any semblance of a running game yet?

Are you looking at it from the main menu or elsewhere?

Within franchise mode. Went back in the main menu and now I see them, thanks.

[cal7_11]

Re: Anyone find any semblance of a running game yet?

I keep finding that on all madden even when I get a solid sealed edge and I hit the turbo after I clear that point of “block shed” the defensive ends/linebacker will chase my 94 speed tailback down to the sideline and these players sometimes have as low as 79 speed. The speed threshold seems to be in favor of the defense completely or atleast the cpu on all madden. I can’t break an outside run for any yards unless miraculously there’s no backside pursuit and I juke the pursuing end and turn up field.



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Yeah the pursuit of the DL is hilariously off. Got 300 pounders spinning on a dime and chasing down 92+ speed RBs in a blink of an eye. Most of the time making insane diving tackles or you get that insanely slow tackle break animation from behind and before you can even think about running again another DL has smashed you to the ground.

The DL and defence in general run around like demented zombies

[xCoachDx]

Re: Anyone find any semblance of a running game yet?

Man, this is ugly and frustrating.

I go into practice mode with the Madden Greats against the Browns, pick a run play and a defensive play. No shifts. No motions. Just line up and snap. I figure my OL should just run over these guys but I really just wanted to see how the best OL would block. I would run a play 7-8 times vs one defense and then pick a new D.

So problem #1, on some plays, the OL was blocking differently every single snap. Sometimes correctly, sometimes sort of okay, sometimes leaving a player unblocked for the easy play. Usually if a player was unblocked, it’s because the guy that should be blocking him was double teaming somewhere else.

Problem #2:

Overall ratings:
LT - 99 LE - 78
LG - 97 DT - 72
C - 97 DT - 73
RG - 99 RE - 88
RT - 96 LOLB - 76
TE - 99 MLB - 76
HB - 99 ROLB - 77

I scored once out of over 100 plays, and that was only because I got a break tackle animation where I was basically untouchable by everyone else on the field.

So a group of mid 70’s where constantly able to spin and rip away from 96+ linemen and a 99 HB. Sure, I averaged about 5 yards a carry (some more, some less). But you’re telling me an essentially OP line isn’t just mowing over these guys? This is a load of barnacles.

Oh, and the quick sheds did not happen while I was sprinting. So if we could please not go there. Haha