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  • Fist Of Kings
    Pro
    • Oct 2009
    • 793

    #406
    Re: Anyone find any semblance of a running game yet?

    My last game I nearly ran for 500 yards lol.

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    • xCoachDx
      MVP
      • Aug 2015
      • 1296

      #407
      Re: Anyone find any semblance of a running game yet?

      Originally posted by canes21
      Going to test this myself, will broadcast here and post a replay as well.


      Spent 30 minutes in practice. Near the end I was just screwing around and see what I could force, so once you see me start doing random plays with passes in them you can stop it there as I wasn't really doing anything besides goofing off and not trying to really get much.


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      Definitely some weird issues going on at times. Counters and the trap were really weird. The DL gets so far upfield so quickly before the handoff is even made. I'll play a game between these two and see how different it is because practice also felt different than the games I have played.


      Did you look at the same play over and over and see if they were blocking differently each time? This was my issue.

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      • manEATgod
        Rookie
        • Nov 2013
        • 130

        #408
        Re: Anyone find any semblance of a running game yet?

        My run game is almost back to M18 effectiveness with one caveat. I find that offensive lineman pulling from the backside don't quite get there, and this has shifted my play calling.

        I'm running more Duo than Power(with a pulling guard). More Split Belly than Counter. Bengals Power G has the play side guard pulling so that's been effective too.

        On the other hand, I've noticed if I'm really patient the pulling lineman from the backside does eventually get there, and when I'm running behind my two strongest OL(94 and 84 Power run block) I have enough time to wait for the guard.

        I like that speed and acceleration seem to be a bigger part of pulling this Madden, but the lineman don't seem to properly identify who or where to block, they run like they are stuck in the mud, and they sometimes run into other OL and blow the whole play up.

        This is a fault of the game, right? Is this getting patched? Or do I need to find a way to slow down even further and wait even longer for my lead blocker? How do I make sure they don't trip over a teammate?

        Power is a major part of the scheme I'm simulating and I want to be able to master it. I also really like the idea of some lineman just not being quick enough to get there, or smart enough to identify who to block.

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        • ODogg
          Hall Of Fame
          • Feb 2003
          • 37953

          #409
          Re: Anyone find any semblance of a running game yet?

          U using precision running?


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          • canes21
            Hall Of Fame
            • Sep 2008
            • 22931

            #410
            Re: Anyone find any semblance of a running game yet?

            Originally posted by xCoachDx
            Did you look at the same play over and over and see if they were blocking differently each time? This was my issue.

            I did do that in parts of the video early on and I saw them being rather consistent. It only got out of whack when it would randomly have the mike be someone that made no sense like the slot corner, but the majority of the time when the default mike was the same player it should have been or close to it they blocked identical.
            “No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.”


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            • cwilson250733
              Rookie
              • Sep 2007
              • 229

              #411
              Re: Anyone find any semblance of a running game yet?

              I’m guessing no one that plays this game understands, that there is only one guy in the history of the NFL that has a career average yds per game over 100 and that’s Jim Brown at 104.3. Everybody else is below 100 a game. The average yards per carry is around 4.1. ThIs game is by far the closest to real running stats in game that madden has had. Just a few small tweets to sliders and my D through 7 games gives up a average of 4.4 yds a carry and around 119 yds a game. Not sure what everyone is complaining about. I guess everyone wants to rush for 300 a game which is unreal.

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              • ODogg
                Hall Of Fame
                • Feb 2003
                • 37953

                #412
                Re: Anyone find any semblance of a running game yet?

                Originally posted by cwilson250733
                I’m guessing no one that plays this game understands, that there is only one guy in the history of the NFL that has a career average yds per game over 100 and that’s Jim Brown at 104.3. Everybody else is below 100 a game. The average yards per carry is around 4.1. ThIs game is by far the closest to real running stats in game that madden has had. Just a few small tweets to sliders and my D through 7 games gives up a average of 4.4 yds a carry and around 119 yds a game. Not sure what everyone is complaining about. I guess everyone wants to rush for 300 a game which is unreal.


                People only think they want realism heh


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                • cwilson250733
                  Rookie
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 229

                  #413
                  Re: Anyone find any semblance of a running game yet?

                  Originally posted by ODogg
                  People only think they want realism heh


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                  I agree! Most back only rush for 80ish yards a week unless they break a big run! Then they are still around 120.

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                  • xCoachDx
                    MVP
                    • Aug 2015
                    • 1296

                    #414
                    Re: Anyone find any semblance of a running game yet?

                    Originally posted by cwilson250733
                    I’m guessing no one that plays this game understands, that there is only one guy in the history of the NFL that has a career average yds per game over 100 and that’s Jim Brown at 104.3. Everybody else is below 100 a game. The average yards per carry is around 4.1. ThIs game is by far the closest to real running stats in game that madden has had. Just a few small tweets to sliders and my D through 7 games gives up a average of 4.4 yds a carry and around 119 yds a game. Not sure what everyone is complaining about. I guess everyone wants to rush for 300 a game which is unreal.


                    Stats are irrelevant if they aren’t achieved in a realistic manner. And I haven’t seen the run game act realistic consistently in a single game, much less week to week.

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                    • cwilson250733
                      Rookie
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 229

                      #415
                      Re: Anyone find any semblance of a running game yet?

                      Originally posted by xCoachDx
                      Stats are irrelevant if they aren’t achieved in a realistic manner. And I haven’t seen the run game act realistic consistently in a single game, much less week to week.
                      We must be playing 2 separate different games! Each week is different in the NFL. And same during a game. I’m playing as the Jets, one week I gave up 137 the next 61. Pretty much how it is in the real NFL. Depends on who you play. I lost 38-0 vs the Browns, the next week beat the Vikings 34-17!

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                      • xCoachDx
                        MVP
                        • Aug 2015
                        • 1296

                        #416
                        Re: Anyone find any semblance of a running game yet?

                        Originally posted by cwilson250733
                        We must be playing 2 separate different games! Each week is different in the NFL. And same during a game. I’m playing as the Jets, one week I gave up 137 the next 61. Pretty much how it is in the real NFL. Depends on who you play. I lost 38-0 vs the Browns, the next week beat the Vikings 34-17!


                        Like I said..... stats are irrelevant if they don’t happen realistically

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                        • cwilson250733
                          Rookie
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 229

                          #417
                          Re: Anyone find any semblance of a running game yet?

                          Originally posted by xCoachDx
                          Like I said..... stats are irrelevant if they don’t happen realistically
                          Here a better example. Last year Minnesota gave up only 57yds per game rushing at home but gave up 111 on the road!

                          Jets beat the chiefs 38-31 last year then next week lose 23-0 at Denver. Pretty much same as mine above.

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                          • xCoachDx
                            MVP
                            • Aug 2015
                            • 1296

                            #418
                            Re: Anyone find any semblance of a running game yet?

                            Originally posted by cwilson250733
                            Here a better example. Last year Minnesota gave up only 57yds per game rushing at home but gave up 111 on the road!



                            Jets beat the chiefs 38-31 last year then next week lose 23-0 at Denver. Pretty much same as mine above.


                            The point is going wayyyy above you friend.

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                            • cwilson250733
                              Rookie
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 229

                              #419
                              Re: Anyone find any semblance of a running game yet?

                              No! This game with some tweaks plays really close to real nfl! People get made that them or the cpu is not running for 200yds a game or the get mad if they run the ball 3 times and get stopped at the line of scrimmage each time. The running is broke. No it’s just real nfl! You say stats are not happening realistically but a lot of people on here beg to differ! And you give no explanation!

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                              • xCoachDx
                                MVP
                                • Aug 2015
                                • 1296

                                #420
                                Re: Anyone find any semblance of a running game yet?

                                Originally posted by cwilson250733
                                No! This game with some tweaks plays really close to real nfl! People get made that them or the cpu is not running for 200yds a game or the get mad if they run the ball 3 times and get stopped at the line of scrimmage each time. The running is broke. No it’s just real nfl! You say stats are not happening realistically but a lot of people on here beg to differ! And you give no explanation!


                                Check the thread. I’ve given plenty of explanation.

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