Madden 13: Buy or No Buy

[Franchise408]

Re: Madden 13: Buy or No Buy

Better late than never, sure, but pardon me for not being impressed by "improvements" that were already standard in my game 8 years ago, but that game doesn't exist anymore because the current game wrote a check to take that other game off the market, and never came close to accomplishing what that other game did, until 8 years later when they want to act like they are doing something new and unique with the genre.

[Aranor]

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Better late than never, sure, but pardon me for not being impressed by "improvements" that were already standard in my game 8 years ago, but that game doesn't exist anymore because the current game wrote a check to take that other game off the market, and never came close to accomplishing what that other game did, until 8 years later when they want to act like they are doing something new and unique with the genre.

This is so true which is why I havent bought the games year after year. The games are always near the same and when they talk about "improvements" it's sad to say that it had already been in the game or another before. Taking features out and adding them back in seems to be something EA and the makers seem to be good at because it happens so much. Even the stats that have never been right such as the offensive line and their pancakes that have always been screwed up to the super linebackers to the physic defensive backs that after so many years can't be fixed. I'd have to see it to believe it before I'd believe them saying they fixed it because their hype is all it is...Hype.

[blklightning]

Re: Madden 13: Buy or No Buy

How I feel about the demo will be the determining factor.

[roadman]

Re: Madden 13: Buy or No Buy

Better late than never, sure, but pardon me for not being impressed by "improvements" that were already standard in my game 8 years ago, but that game doesn't exist anymore because the current game wrote a check to take that other game off the market, and never came close to accomplishing what that other game did, until 8 years later when they want to act like they are doing something new and unique with the genre.

I agree to a point, but you can't pin Madden 13 for advertising any back of box features. If you are, well, your hatred for Madden is very strong.

And you still refuse to admit change can happen.

[CRMosier_LM]

I agree to a point, but you can't pin Madden 13 for advertising any back of box features. If you are, well, your hatred for Madden is very strong.

And you still refuse to admit change can happen.

You are fighting a losing battle my friend, some folks will never be satisfied as long as it says "EA SPORTS" or "Madden" on the title.

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[speedy9386]

Re: Madden 13: Buy or No Buy

You are fighting a losing battle my friend, some folks will never be satisfied as long as it says "EA SPORTS" or "Madden" on the title.

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While that is true what the guy is saying makes sense doesn't it? You have a game that came out almost 10 years ago that does things head and shoulders better than a game that comes out today. Understandably people are gonna be expecting more from Madden as they should. I'm still remaining optimistic about Madden 13 as it sounds great but there's always gonna feel like there's something missing.

[BigRudy21]

I kind of love and hate what Madden 13 is looking like. I watched the video of Looman did explaining CCM and was impressed.

Especially the way the logic should work according to franchise mode. The problem is I started to get excited about the possibilities, but remembered no editing at all.

This kills alot of the enjoyment as I usually take a horrible team and build them up. I fire the coaches and start it up, now with the addition of schemes working sounded great.

Now I will not be able to take a team such as the Packers and gut them with below avg players and play how I want.

The sheer fact that I can't edit anything kills the depth and immersion that Looman explained.

So which is it? Do they want people to play realistic games? Or do they want people to just use the same teams over and over again?
Because personally I just can't do that.

[Aggies67]

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I won't be buying it. The "no editing" is absolutely ridiculous and shows that EA is more interested in controlling how people play the game than giving people what they want. I'm not gonna pay good money for a sports game that severely limits how I play.

[CRMosier_LM]

While that is true what the guy is saying makes sense doesn't it? You have a game that came out almost 10 years ago that does things head and shoulders better than a game that comes out today. Understandably people are gonna be expecting more from Madden as they should. I'm still remaining optimistic about Madden 13 as it sounds great but there's always gonna feel like there's something missing.

It makes sense to those that liked the other game. To the rest of us who didn't, it makes no sense because we can turn around and point out dozens of things that Madden 05 did better than then other game as well... And even mire now a days.

For the most part Madden find can step back and point out things the Madden series does well and doesn't do well. While the other side refuses to admit anything their favorite game didnt get right. It's the rose colored glasses effect. And also there seems to be the exact opposite when looking at Madden, those same folks are so quick to point out what it does wrong without acknowledging all that it does right (which in most peoples opinion it does far more right than it does wrong).

Thats the exact definition of "blindly loving/hating"

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[aukevin]

I'm still buying the game because I liked last year's game so much. Although the lack of draft classes has brought my excitement level down a lot.

[edgevoice]

Re: Madden 13: Buy or No Buy

No roster customization, no custom playbooks = no buy for me as I am on offline franchise player.

[bucky60]

Re: Madden 13: Buy or No Buy

To be fair, they really didn't add a whole lot to franchise mode last year, and what they did add didn't work too well or they weren't well received. UDFA & cut days were broken, scouting seemed incomplete, E-bay style free agency is gone... I believe most of the rest of the changes were minor tweaks rather than new features, but I haven't played M12 in quite some time, I could be forgetting some. I really didn't see a very big jump from M11 to M12 as far as franchise went, though.

And this is the practice they have been doing this entire gen of console. I expected them to BUILD on what they had already done, instead of tearing it out and losing features AGAIN. Things were broken. I expected them to fix and expand on it. But I've been expecting that the entire life cycle on this console.

But instead of fixing and expanding, they stripped significant features. It seems to be a theme with them. My god, they wasted last years effort and here you are defending that wasted effort and time.

[bucky60]

Re: Madden 13: Buy or No Buy

You are fighting a losing battle my friend, some folks will never be satisfied as long as it says "EA SPORTS" or "Madden" on the title.

Another generalization which is divisive and inaccurate. If EA/Tib would have put out a much better product on this gen console, it would have been MUCH better received.

I guess just stating that bit of obvious fact to some is just a losing battle to those that will be satisfied with just anything as long as it has EA Sports or Madden on the title. See what I did there?

[Big FN Deal]

Re: Madden 13: Buy or No Buy

It makes sense to those that liked the other game. To the rest of us who didn't, it makes no sense because we can turn around and point out dozens of things that Madden 05 did better than then other game as well... And even mire now a days.

For the most part Madden find can step back and point out things the Madden series does well and doesn't do well. While the other side refuses to admit anything their favorite game didnt get right. It's the rose colored glasses effect. And also there seems to be the exact opposite when looking at Madden, those same folks are so quick to point out what it does wrong without acknowledging all that it does right (which in most peoples opinion it does far more right than it does wrong).

Thats the exact definition of "blindly loving/hating"

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Not to be funny and admittedly I preferred that other game last-gen but what exactly has Madden done "football" well, this gen? Meaning, what can you point to in Madden and say "that is a good representation of football"?

The only thing I can think of is graphics but game play, presentation and even things it had last gen that the other game didn't like a deeper franchise mode, mass substitutions, etc, didn't exist most this gen. Granted some stuff has been slowly added back but some of that didn't even work right when it was.

Forget that other game, next-gen Madden is still collectively behind last gen Madden and that can't be labeled EA hate. I am not try to attack you CR, I am just saying that there is merit to a lack of football progress from Madden this console generation. We have yet to get a Madden this console generation that is a reasonably complete representation of football and I never felt like that before the exclusive. That's my issue, every next-gen Madden and I have bought them ALL, felt like a shell of a football game, instead of finished cohesive product. New things added didn't work right, old things added the year or years before still didn't work right or work well with the new things and so much was just disjointed.

Things like improved zone run blocking from M11 and the improved zone defense from M12 were held back from being done well due to other on-going issues with player movement, animations, ratings and AI. Franchise felt like a bunch of strung together play now games, Online Franchise was bare bones, online communities no lobbies, online ranked/rankings seem pointless, presentation didn't flow well with game play, broadcasting wasn't cohesive, on and on. Not mention all the things that would be added and incomplete one year, just to be completely removed later years, instead of finished.

This stuff is not rose colored glasses imo, it's that last-gen NFL games, no matter the company, seemed like complete finished products with understandable issues in contrast to next-gen Madden. CR wouldn't you agree that if there were other NFL games on the market, that it's highly unlikely most if any of these next-gen Madden's are released in the state that they were?

Nothing can be done about the past now and I am liking what I am seeing with M13, plan on buying it but anyone that says next-gen Madden has been a more complete NFL football game than most any last-gen NFL football game, to this point, is wearing the rose colored glasses, imo.

[Bigmac612]

You are fighting a losing battle my friend, some folks will never be satisfied as long as it says "EA SPORTS" or "Madden" on the title.

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That aint true!...i think the majority of ppl, including the "Madden/EA" haters were extremely excited for this game...until,..............June 7-8 rolled around...



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