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  • ac11367
    I love meaty chics
    • Mar 2005
    • 853

    #16
    Re: Biggest reason why this game is arcadey

    Originally posted by grunt
    Randall could be the most exciting and athletic player to play qb. He made those type of plays.
    I am not talking about youtube highlights, I am talking about tons of games watching Randall.
    Dude, don't I know it, I'm a Giants fan. He used to give our elite LB corp fits.

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    • rudyjuly2
      Cade Cunningham
      • Aug 2002
      • 14814

      #17
      Re: Biggest reason why this game is arcadey

      Originally posted by jrivera34
      I used to watch Randell kills my Giants year after year and I remember him through a pass 80 yards on in the air on some QB challenge or something but I do think APF over does Randell's arm strenghth just a little bit. That being said, for the most part I have no trouble stoping Randell or Jerry Rice, Earl Campbell on the other hand is a different story.
      On the QB challenges, Randall never threw it 80 yards. No doubt he had a strong arm but Vinny Testaverde had the record which was 80 yards about 5+ years ago. Favre threw about 74 or 75 yards. Marino was less than 70 yards but most QBs would hit at least 63-65 yards with the stronger arms being 70+ yards. However, that's running forward and just heaving the ball. Its not an accurate spiral and a lot of stories of Randall throwing it from one end zone to the other are just myth. His lengthy windup was very slow as well.
      Last edited by rudyjuly2; 09-07-2007, 08:42 AM.

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      • slimm44
        MVP
        • Sep 2005
        • 3253

        #18
        Re: Biggest reason why this game is arcadey

        Originally posted by grunt
        I saw a play with the Eagles vs the Bills. Bruce Smith had Randall and went for a kill from the Bilnd side and Randall with eyes in the back of his helmet duck under the sack rolled out and threw the ball 50 + yards for a completion. That was "arcadey" too.

        Randall could be the most exciting and athletic player to play qb. He made those type of plays.
        I am not talking about youtube highlights, I am talking about tons of games watching Randall.

        You example is kind of weak. You are in practice mode and your not playing against any defense.

        Like I said before this game got Earl right. Earl was a once in a lifetime back. Guess, folks are lucky they didn't get Bo or H. Walker. The size/power/ratio of those backs were amazing.

        Peace

        Peace
        In the vid, he threw the ball almost 80 yards in the air, with both feet planted, and it looked like he might be falling backward, but I'm not sure of that. I don't doubt at all he could throw at least 70 yards, and maybe even 80 in real life. The throw in question was a little exaggerated, but real life Randall didn't have the luxury of being able to "power up" before he threw. If he did, some passes may have left the stadium.
        Last edited by slimm44; 09-07-2007, 08:56 AM.
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        • slimm44
          MVP
          • Sep 2005
          • 3253

          #19
          Re: Biggest reason why this game is arcadey

          Originally posted by rudyjuly2
          On the QB challenges, Randall never threw it 80 yards. No doubt he had a strong arm but Vinny Testaverde had the record which was 80 yards about 5+ years ago. Favre threw about 74 or 75 yards. Marino was less than 70 yards but most QBs would hit at least 63-65 yards with the stronger arms being 70+ yards. However, that's running forward and just heaving the ball. Its not an accurate spiral and a lot of stories of Randall throwing it from one end zone to the other are just myth. His lengthy windup was very slow as well.
          I know for a FACT that Uncle Rico used to be able to throw a pigskin a quarter-mile, and possibly even over some mountains. Let me go get my proof, hold on...
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          John 4:23. He is seeking a seeker.
          John 3:20. Say no to normal.

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          • grunt
            Banned
            • Jul 2002
            • 9527

            #20
            Re: Biggest reason why this game is arcadey

            Originally posted by slimm44
            In the vid, he threw the ball almost 80 yards in the air, with both feet planted, and it looked like he might be falling backward, but I'm not sure of that. I don't doubt at all he could throw at least 70 yards, and maybe even 80 in real life. The throw in question was a little exaggerated, but real life Randall didn't have the luxury of being able to "power up" before he threw. If he did, some passes may have left the stadium.

            Cool, it need to be tweek but this does not make the game arcadey.

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            • Rocky
              All Star
              • Jul 2002
              • 6896

              #21
              Re: Biggest reason why this game is arcadey

              Originally posted by grunt
              Cool, it need to be tweek but this does not make the game arcadey.
              Nonetheless, he couldn't even complete the pass in practice mode. So does that make this game arcadey because of this one problem?
              "Maybe I can't win. But to beat me, he's going to have to kill me. And to kill me, he's gonna have to have the heart to stand in front of me. And to do that, he's got to be willing to die himself. I don't know if he's ready to do that."
              -Rocky Balboa

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              • grunt
                Banned
                • Jul 2002
                • 9527

                #22
                Re: Biggest reason why this game is arcadey

                Originally posted by rudyjuly2
                On the QB challenges, Randall never threw it 80 yards. No doubt he had a strong arm but Vinny Testaverde had the record which was 80 yards about 5+ years ago. Favre threw about 74 or 75 yards. Marino was less than 70 yards but most QBs would hit at least 63-65 yards with the stronger arms being 70+ yards. However, that's running forward and just heaving the ball. Its not an accurate spiral and a lot of stories of Randall throwing it from one end zone to the other are just myth. His lengthy windup was very slow as well.
                I am not expecting any video game get everything correct but Randall had a very strong arm not as strong as in the practice video. VC made his arm too strong but took away from his mobility.

                This game is far from being arcadey.

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                • grunt
                  Banned
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 9527

                  #23
                  Re: Biggest reason why this game is arcadey

                  Originally posted by Rocky
                  Nonetheless, he couldn't even complete the pass in practice mode. So does that make this game arcadey because of this one problem?
                  I agree. It was practice mode without any defense. Funny.

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                  • grunt
                    Banned
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 9527

                    #24
                    Re: Biggest reason why this game is arcadey

                    or better yet take Steve Grogan and try to make this pass. I still struggle in the pasing game because I don't set my feet.
                    Last edited by grunt; 09-07-2007, 09:30 AM. Reason: my bad

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                    • TombSong
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 2543

                      #25
                      Re: Biggest reason why this game is arcadey

                      The longest throw I think Cunninghdam made in a game was a 66 yard TD to Keith Jackson.
                      In 1997 QB thingy I believe that was a 76 yard throw that won Cunningham the contest.
                      I remember it being something crazy cause I was Pissed he won. Being a Cowboy fan I HATED Cunningham.

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                      • The Lob Mob
                        Youtube Innovators
                        • Aug 2005
                        • 824

                        #26
                        Re: Biggest reason why this game is arcadey

                        Originally posted by dunelly
                        no qb in the world can make that throw
                        i cant believe youre actually defending that video

                        Show me a video of a QB completing that pass . . .decent defense or none. . . then we'll talk.:wink:
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                        • rudyjuly2
                          Cade Cunningham
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 14814

                          #27
                          Re: Biggest reason why this game is arcadey

                          Originally posted by grunt
                          I am not expecting any video game get everything correct but Randall had a very strong arm not as strong as in the practice video. VC made his arm too strong but took away from his mobility.

                          This game is far from being arcadey.
                          I never said the game was arcadey. I simply commented on Randall's real life arm strength. I can't even see the videos at work. There were just a lot of exaggerated stories in the past about some QBs arm strength like Randall Cunningham and I was just setting the record straight per the QB Challenge competition. I don't even know if they do that thing anymore.

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                          • grunt
                            Banned
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 9527

                            #28
                            Re: Biggest reason why this game is arcadey

                            Originally posted by rudyjuly2
                            I never said the game was arcadey. I simply commented on Randall's real life arm strength. I can't even see the videos at work. There were just a lot of exaggerated stories in the past about some QBs arm strength like Randall Cunningham and I was just setting the record straight per the QB Challenge competition. I don't even know if they do that thing anymore.
                            I know. I was just trying to keep the thread in line with the "arcadey" theme.


                            Peace

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                            • DocHolliday
                              Farewell and 'ado
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 4697

                              #29
                              Re: Biggest reason why this game is arcadey

                              You smell like a troll. This is by far the best QB simulator....ever really. the throws on the run, the bad throws , off the back foot. Even online you rarely see people throw like that, cause half the time even cunningham wont make that throw.
                              GT: Event Horizon 0

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                              • Pared
                                Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 39337

                                #30
                                Re: Biggest reason why this game is arcadey

                                Damn Randall threw that ball about 60 yards... in the real life video.
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