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Also, to expand on the guaranteed money issue that's apparently holding the negotiations up for Russell, I just read that Russell really is trying to set a precedent apparently.
Via Field Gulls http://www.fieldgulls.com/2015/7/27/...aranteed-money :
Per Cole:
Wilson has been willing to come down on his demand to be the highest player in the league. In return, however, he's expecting that the guarantee on this deal will come up.
The Seahawks, a month ago, offered [to Wilson] the Carolina Panthers deal that they gave to Cam Newton, which basically guaranteed $54M and was worth $21M per year. What Wilson is expecting at this point in time is to get somewhere above Ndamukong Suh's $60M figure for a guarantee, according to a source that I've talked to, and basically re-set the notion of where a guarantee should be for a quarterback, and for all players, for that matter.
This jibes*with an Ian Rapoport report from Sunday*that also had the $21M per-year number as "essentially correct." As Rapoport noted, though, that "sources familiar with the situation say Wilson would make (under the latest offer) below $20 million cash up front," which would be salary for 2015 plus a hefty signing bonus. With Wilson's ridiculously low salary of $1.5M due this year on his rookie deal, the full 'up front' money thing is a sticking point. Most top-tier quarterbacks that have received contract extensions were, at the time, already due to be making double-digit-million dollar salaries in their final year.
Said Rapoport: "Those in Seattle say there are significant guarantees, but most of the guarantees are simply for injury only." This speaks to the fact that the word "guaranteed" in the NFL is a fairly ambiguous word.
If Wilson's contract money is all fully guaranteed money, per the NFL CBA, the Seahawks would have to be put the entire amount in an escrow account to be paid out as Wilson's deal matures. Most NFL contracts, however, use "partial guarantees" or "for injury only" guarantees or whatever you want to call them. Essentially, teams do not fully guarantee the money for a player's particular season until that season rolls around. So, for instance, if Wilson is due a guaranteed $20 million in 2017, that $20 million doesn't become fully guaranteed until the start of that year on a pre-determined date (it's also guaranteed for injury, so if Wilson suffered a career ending injury, he'd still get it).
What this structure does is that this allows the team to cut bait on a player if he's not performing a few years into his deal, and the team can avoid paying that (example) $20 million for that season. Most of the Seahawks' big-time contracts are structured this way, and in fact, most NFL deals are set up this way. For instance, it was originally reported that the Panthers had given Cam Newton $60M guaranteed, but as it turned out, only $31M of that was*fully guaranteed, with the other $29M in "guarantees" for injury only. For Newton's deal, he got a $22.5 million signing bonus and $7.5 million roster bonus upon signing the contract. This is the $31M in fully guaranteed money.
However, in 2016, Newton will receive a $10 million option bonus, and his 2016 salary will become fully guaranteed if on the roster the 3rd day of the League Year. In 2017, $6 million of his salary will become guaranteed if he's still on the roster the 3rd day of the League Year. These are the so-called rolling guarantees, and the "pay as you go" type of deal the Seahawks are reportedly looking to give Wilson.
As Cole reports, Wilson is looking to change that paradigm altogether. He essentially is saying that he wants those per-season roster and options bonuses to be fully guaranteed up front. ESPN's Jim Trotter said this morning that,
"Everything I'm hearing is that the Seahawks are not going to blink in terms of the way they do business.*They are going to maintain the structure of the contracts, they way they've done them in the pastLast edited by jWILL253; 07-27-2015, 10:14 PM.jWILLComment
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These NFL Films season reviews on NFL Network are amazing.....they can make a team that had the worst record in the league look like they should have all the optimism in the world for next season [emoji38]
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SAS is reporting the NFL will uphold Brady's 4 game suspension and also claims Brady destroyed his cell phone. Says ruling will come within the next 24-48 hours.Comment
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I really hope Brady destroyed his phone.
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@RapSheet: NFL: Roger Goodell upheld the four-game suspension imposed on Patriots quarterback Tom Brady
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So a guy that beats his girlfriend, throws her on a bathtub, and on a couch full of guns is the SAME EXACT thing as taking a little air out of a football. Good job Goodell.Last edited by redsox4evur; 07-28-2015, 02:41 PM.Comment
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He did.
@RapSheet: Ruling: “Brady directed that the cell phone he had used for the prior four months be destroyed.”
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lol, very interested to hear justification for destroying a phone after knowing it would be asked for.
What a mess, and no way he wins pr-wise outside of the faithful.
"Destruction of cell phone not disclosed until June 18, almost 4 months after investigators first sought electronic information from Brady" via https://twitter.com/adbrandt/status/626102785986007041
I didn't think the original offense was that big of a deal, Brady seems to have dug quite a hole though.Last edited by mestevo; 07-28-2015, 02:54 PM.Comment
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