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  • SPTO
    binging
    • Feb 2003
    • 68046

    #19861
    Re: NFL Off Topic

    Originally posted by slickdtc
    Nice to see my eyes didn't deceive me; Corey Graham don't miss tackles!
    If you go by what Bills fans say on social media he misses a ton. Glad to see that he is the opposite of that.

    I bet Sammy will get the best deep threat accolades next season.
    Member of the Official OS Bills Backers Club

    "Baseball is the most important thing that doesn't matter at all" - Robert B. Parker

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    • Chip Douglass
      Hall Of Fame
      • Dec 2005
      • 12256

      #19862
      Re: NFL Off Topic

      Before their introductory press conferences, NFL head coaches endure a grueling hiring process. Here’s what goes on behind closed doors


      Interesting read on SI about the head coach hiring process. Fair to say I'm not really encouraged.

      Heavy emphasis on chemistry/clubhouse skills and virtually none on game-time decision-making/strategy (go for it here? punt here?). I know for a fact prospective baseball managers are asked to go through game-time simulations. Goes a long way in explaining why so many NFL head coaches make as many poor decisions as they do.
      I write things on the Internet.

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      • SPTO
        binging
        • Feb 2003
        • 68046

        #19863
        Re: NFL Off Topic

        Originally posted by Chip Douglass
        http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/01/19/n...-jenny-vrentas

        Interesting read on SI about the head coach hiring process. Fair to say I'm not really encouraged.

        Heavy emphasis on chemistry/clubhouse skills and virtually none on game-time decision-making/strategy (go for it here? punt here?). I know for a fact prospective baseball managers are asked to go through game-time simulations. Goes a long way in explaining why so many NFL head coaches make as many poor decisions as they do.
        I think chemistry and getting along with players should definitely be a factor in the hiring process but if that's the main focus than no wonder there's so much turnover. If it's up to me it should be 60/40 strategic/game planning vs chemistry with players.
        Member of the Official OS Bills Backers Club

        "Baseball is the most important thing that doesn't matter at all" - Robert B. Parker

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        • slickdtc
          Grayscale
          • Aug 2004
          • 17125

          #19864
          Re: NFL Off Topic

          I'd love to see that flipped around: which team executives/owners have their stuff together, especially if you're meeting with upwards of 9 teams in the last year like Gase has.

          We know some owners are very hands on and have made questionable hires, SF hiring Tomsula for example. Which teams are progressive, analytic based? Whose still going largely by the eye test?
          NHL - Philadelphia Flyers
          NFL - Buffalo Bills
          MLB - Cincinnati Reds


          Originally posted by Money99
          And how does one levy a check that will result in only a slight concussion? Do they set their shoulder-pads to 'stun'?

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          • Sportsforever
            NL MVP
            • Mar 2005
            • 20368

            #19865
            Re: NFL Off Topic

            Is there anything that Brett Favre doesn't/won't endorse? I think he's giving Manning a run for the number of commercials he's in...
            "People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby

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            • redsox4evur
              Hall Of Fame
              • Jul 2013
              • 18169

              #19866
              Re: NFL Off Topic

              Originally posted by Sportsforever
              Is there anything that Brett Favre doesn't/won't endorse? I think he's giving Manning a run for the number of commercials he's in...
              What has he done besides Wrangler, Copper Fit and that razor? Also how else is he supposed to make money.
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              • Sportsforever
                NL MVP
                • Mar 2005
                • 20368

                #19867
                Re: NFL Off Topic

                Originally posted by redsox4evur
                What has he done besides Wrangler, Copper Fit and that razor? Also how else is he supposed to make money.
                I have no idea...I just see him on commercials in the back ground a lot. Just saw him on for some fit bit monitor of some sort...

                As for making money, I would hope a guy who made as much money as he did for 20 years doesn't NEED to work another day in his life.
                "People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby

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                • ImTellinTim
                  YNWA
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 33028

                  #19868
                  Re: NFL Off Topic

                  Originally posted by Sportsforever
                  Is there anything that Brett Favre doesn't/won't endorse? I think he's giving Manning a run for the number of commercials he's in...
                  I have to say, if people kept coming to me saying, "We will pay you $X to smile and talk about our product", my answer almost every time would be, "Where's the camera?"

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                  • Chip Douglass
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Dec 2005
                    • 12256

                    #19869
                    Re: NFL Off Topic

                    Originally posted by SPTO
                    I think chemistry and getting along with players should definitely be a factor in the hiring process but if that's the main focus than no wonder there's so much turnover. If it's up to me it should be 60/40 strategic/game planning vs chemistry with players.
                    Yes, I'd like to think that 15-20% of the league's coaches getting fired every year might indicate to owners/GMs that they might want to settle on a new head coach hiring process.

                    Leadership skills and managing the locker room are definitely important. So is making good decisions on the field that maximizes my team's chances of winning football games. Per the article, there's not even a hint that coaches are being hired on that basis.
                    I write things on the Internet.

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                    • LambertandHam
                      All Star
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 8008

                      #19870
                      Re: NFL Off Topic

                      Was reading a tough article about former Steeler Antwan Randel El and his struggles post football. The man is only 36, yet has trouble with memory and even walking down the stairs by himself...
                      Steam

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                      • kehlis
                        Moderator
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 27738

                        #19871
                        Re: NFL Off Topic

                        If there was a change to OT and I don't want one the only change I would want is what determines who gets the ball to start the OT.

                        I would be with pretty much any alternative (home team, team that last held the lead, continuation of fourth quarter etc...)

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                        • wwharton
                          *ll St*r
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 26949

                          #19872
                          Re: NFL Off Topic

                          Originally posted by kehlis
                          If there was a change to OT and I don't want one the only change I would want is what determines who gets the ball to start the OT.

                          I would be with pretty much any alternative (home team, team that last held the lead, continuation of fourth quarter etc...)
                          I'd be okay with this... and actually after thinking it through, I'd be okay with any of the above being able to choose.

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                          • slickdtc
                            Grayscale
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 17125

                            #19873
                            Re: NFL Off Topic

                            I don't understand where teams get off thinking they deserve a possession in OT. Though I would favor a change to the way possession is decided. Continuation of possession is my favorite.

                            I've grown fond of the FG not winning a game as it's made teams play for the W at least a bit more. But if you allow a TD, why do you think you deserve a chance to retaliate? It mostly makes me mad because OMG waaahhh Aaron Rodgers didn't get a chance to touch the ball two straight postseasons. That's his defense's fault, especially this year.

                            If they change it, and it will be largely because of that, it'll be another slap in the face of defenses. No word on investing more in your defense, just a participation award to the team who wasn't good enough to make a stop.
                            NHL - Philadelphia Flyers
                            NFL - Buffalo Bills
                            MLB - Cincinnati Reds


                            Originally posted by Money99
                            And how does one levy a check that will result in only a slight concussion? Do they set their shoulder-pads to 'stun'?

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                            • mestevo
                              Gooney Goo Goo
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 19556

                              #19874
                              Re: NFL Off Topic

                              That doesn't really add up, since both defenses would then have a chance also. Doesn't discourage investment in defense at all, lol.

                              Not in favor of just continuing the drive in OT. Guts the sense of urgency in the last 2 minutes in many circumstances, end of regulation just becomes a free timeout if you're at the edge of fg range or further.

                              Packers blew it, I don't think blown coverage should really move this debate very far


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                              Last edited by mestevo; 01-19-2016, 06:58 PM.

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                              • wwharton
                                *ll St*r
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 26949

                                #19875
                                Re: NFL Off Topic

                                Originally posted by mestevo
                                That doesn't really add up, since both defenses would then have a chance also. Doesn't discourage investment in defense at all, lol.

                                Not in favor of just continuing the drive in OT. Guts the sense of urgency in the last 2 minutes in many circumstances, end of regulation just becomes a free timeout if you're at the edge of fg range or further.

                                Packers blew it, I don't think blown coverage should really move this debate very far


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                                I agree, continuing the drive into OT seems like a REALLY bad idea.

                                Not really sure I understand your first point though.

                                Bottom line, like you I think, it seems pretty stupid to continue acting like QBs are the only players on a team that matter. The Packers did play in OT. Just because Rodgers didn't doesn't mean the rules need changing.

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