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[KG]

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You might be completely right, but you might be completely wrong too, lol. I don't know the details. She could've found out where he was, met him there just to call the police.

Seriously, what kind of person lies about being domestically abused? If she did (he got off the first time because the ruling was that she did), we have no idea how true any of this stuff is. Don't worry, if it all turns out true you can still say you were first, lol.

What's the legal ramifications for false accusingly someone of domestic violence? For an everyday person I'd imagine it's not too big of a hit to your image but for a professional athlete it's can be way worse. I still here people call Kobe a rapist.

[p_rushing]

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What's the legal ramifications for false accusingly someone of domestic violence? For an everyday person I'd imagine it's not too big of a hit to your image but for a professional athlete it's can be way worse. I still here people call Kobe a rapist.

You can go to jail for a false police report, but usually it isn't pursued by the victim of the false report. They could also sue for defamation, but the person has to have something to take unless you just want to make a statement that you did nothing wrong.

It sounds like he isn't a good guy and likes women who are also crazy. I don't understand how someone could continually put themselves in these situations, but it happens everyday.

[wwharton]

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Unless the law is GREATLY different in California than here in Texas, it does not make sense that he was going back to the property because he was trying to evict her.

I own more than 10 properties and have to evict people on occasion. I have no reason to stay away from the property (I have yet to beat any tenants, lol) but I could evict without ever going there.

I could serve a 3-day Notice to Vacate by using a 3rd party (or an employee) or I could do it by certified mail (though I would never use this method).

Once that notice is served and the time passes I could send someone to see if they've left. If they haven't, I go to the courthouse and file a suit. Then it's a matter of a court date and, if necessary, getting the Sheriff's Constables to physically remove them if they still don't go.

But that's all business. It's what he SHOULD have done, but clearly this is personal. He knew she wouldn't respect an order to leave and it'd need to go through the court and other avenues but he wanted to get her back for whatever crap she's pulling... they both seem pretty immature to me, but it's still possible he didn't lay hands on this woman so I'll hold off on calling him garbage. Stupid seems appropriate though.

What's the legal ramifications for false accusingly someone of domestic violence? For an everyday person I'd imagine it's not too big of a hit to your image but for a professional athlete it's can be way worse. I still here people call Kobe a rapist.

He filed a suit against her, I'm assuming to clear his name... which he has now ruined on his own.

[NDAlum]

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What's the legal ramifications for false accusingly someone of domestic violence? For an everyday person I'd imagine it's not too big of a hit to your image but for a professional athlete it's can be way worse. I still here people call Kobe a rapist.

Nothing really

Filing a false police report? Misuse of 911?

Those are super petty charges that aren't worth the time to even pursue. So basically there is nothing that will be done about lies. His best chance is to go the civil route. The criminal system doesn't punish, it just tries to push people through.

[Candyman5]

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Let's face it. Woman have the most power in the legal system and they know it. Let's not think they are all innocent because they are female.

[OSUFan_88]

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Let's face it. Woman have the most power in the legal system and they know it. Let's not think they are all innocent because they are female.

I cannot possibly imagine why you thought this comment was a good idea.

Perhaps next you'd like to make a racial statement to complete this brain fart.

[Candyman5]

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I cannot possibly imagine why you thought this comment was a good idea.

Perhaps next you'd like to make a racial statement to complete this brain fart.

I wasn't saying it to be against woman. It's just funny to me that whenever there's something between a guy and a woman the guy is guilty before it even starts. That's what I am getting at, I see it all the time on here.

[Fresh Tendrils]

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I don't think either of those two comments are remotely true at all.

[steelerfan]

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Let's face it. Woman have the most power in the legal system and they know it. Let's not think they are all innocent because they are female.

If someone disagrees with this, they don't have the life experience to know it is true.

Women hold all the chips. Period.

[Candyman5]

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If someone disagrees with this, they don't have the life experience to know it is true.

Women hold all the chips. Period.

The legal system is extremely skewed in the Females favor. Not only do males get treated badly during the process, even if your found innocent you get a stigma around you.

Listen to all those wanting to rage at me I don't believe in violence against woman I do however wish that the legal system was more fair in domestic violence cases that a male and female are involved in.

Just annoys me to no end that equal rights want to be brought up when it benefits a female but whenever it can be used against them the "But she is a female" escuse works somehow.

[OSUFan_88]

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It's generally skewed towards women because generally, men who end up in that position generally committed these acts multiple times.

But this isn't the place for this topic to be discussed.

[mestevo]

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It doesn't even apply to this case... Just some random arbitrary soapboxing. There was reportedly a broken door... Which easily gets you a restraining order. Reverse the genders and this all goes down the same.

To even think this is the forum or incident to go that direction with the conversation is kinda amazing.

[wwharton]

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The legal system is extremely skewed in the Females favor. Not only do males get treated badly during the process, even if your found innocent you get a stigma around you.

Listen to all those wanting to rage at me I don't believe in violence against woman I do however wish that the legal system was more fair in domestic violence cases that a male and female are involved in.

Just annoys me to no end that equal rights want to be brought up when it benefits a female but whenever it can be used against them the "But she is a female" escuse works somehow.

I don't know if you realize how many domestic violence cases go nowhere. A man, usually much stronger than his girlfriend/wife, lays hands on her and if she reports it he's often in anger management classes and sleeping next to her again in no time. If she doesn't, he continues laying hands on her. We're talking about people's lives here, and erring on the side of caution to prevent someone getting killed or killing themselves should be more important than wondering if a guy's name is getting undeservedly dragged through the mud.

It sucks that there are women that will use things like this for their advantage, but make no mistake, the laws should be in favor of the many, many who are not crying wolf and are brave enough to say something even though there's a good chance it puts them in even more danger.

[NDAlum]

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All I will say that is the subject of domestic violence is a very complex subject. I could go on with hundreds of real life examples but this isn't the place.

My main point in bringing up what I did was that it is very difficult on what to believe in some domestic violence cases. On the surface the situation with McDonald has a pattern of behavior which from my experience leads me to believe that the other party has first hand knowledge of the legal system/criminal system and knows how to use it.

Often when I deal with these things you get to break out the old cliche:

There is your side, there is their side, and there's the truth.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Thoughts on this since I know Guaranteed Contracts has been hot issue on here in regards to the NFL:

It’s easy to say that NFL contracts should be fully guaranteed. In theory, every player should want that.
In practice, fully-guaranteed contracts could create plenty of problems, both for teams and for players. Especially for younger players trying either to get a job or to get paid a fair salary.
Assume, for example, that Adrian Peterson’s contract were fully guaranteed through 2017. With $12.75 million committed this year, $14.75 million committed next year, and $16.75 million committed in 2017, the Vikings would have far less flexibility to pay other players under the hard-cap system the NFL uses.
And if Peterson’s skills were to suddenly decline in 2015, the Vikings would be stuck with a guy who is no longer earning his keep, but in turn unable to properly compensate the player(s) who would be carrying the load on his behalf.
The truth is that if the NFL had fully-guaranteed contracts, the Vikings never would have loaded so much money into the last two years of the Peterson deal. The contract either would have been shorter in duration, or it would have paid out far fewer dollars beyond the running back witching hour of his 30th birthday.
Having NFL contracts that aren’t fully guaranteed ensures that the game will remain closer to a meritocracy, with the best players getting the most money and earning the playing time. If/when those players are no longer earning the playing time, they’ll no longer be getting the dollars. Which is how the system currently works.
Already, too many players who don’t deserve to be in the starting lineup up get those spots at least in part to justify their contracts and/or their draft status. Fully-guaranteed contracts would give teams another reason to keep trotting out a player who may no longer be better than his backup, because if the highly-paid player with the guaranteed contract isn’t playing, the fans and the media will have another reason to lobby the owner to fire the guy who signed the player to that contract in the first place.
In a cap-driven system, fully-guaranteed contracts can become as problematic as the pre-2011 system for paying guys taken at the top of the draft. Previously, unproven players who never became contributors sucked millions out of the system that could have gone to players who deserve it. Fully-guaranteed contracts would potentially do the same thing on the back end of a career, allowing a player who isn’t what he used to be to coast to the finish line, collecting checks that otherwise should go to the guys who are getting the job done.
With an ever-growing cap and a spending minimum that keeps pushing higher and higher, the players will get paid. It’s better for the players who are contributing to get paid. Fully-guaranteed contracts could keep that from happening.
With fully-guaranteed contracts, some teams would likely insist on shorter-term deals. And that would give players more flexibility to change teams or to get more money. But it also would make it harder for players to receive a major, multi-year, life-changing contract, because teams won’t want to put huge dollars into a contract if the team has no way out if the player isn’t earning money that could otherwise go to someone who is.
Non-guaranteed contracts give players who have gotten past the guaranteed portion of the contract a clear reason to keep working hard and to keep fending off the guy who is trying to take his job. If every year of the salary is guaranteed, the player at some point could lose his edge — and the team would be paying a lot of money to a guy who simply isn’t earning it.