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  • Scott812313
    MVP
    • Jun 2009
    • 1877

    #15196
    Re: NFL Off Topic

    Originally posted by SPTO
    I'd take Flacco over Romo. Flacco is a guy who has all the tools you'd want. He's tough in the pocket, has a fairly good arm, is decisive and doesn't make too many mistakes. He probably can't be THE main cog of an offense for an extended time but he's shown in playoffs and big games that he can take over and play like a man possessed.

    Romo OTOH puts up great numbers but there's always been that nagging question about him. In the past when there hasn't been that much of a running game the Cowboys have put the load on his shoulders and that leads to him trying to do too much, throwing the ball in tight spaces and making very poor decisions. This is why I think the loss of DeMarco Murray is going to hurt him. I really think the Cowboys are underestimating his importance to the team and how much more effective Romo can be when he doesn't have to always be the man.

    If I had to start a franchise right now and picking between those two i'd go with Flacco easily.
    Flacco may have the best arm in the league. Fairly good is a monumental understatement.
    "In the morning he would read the Bible with another coach. Then, in the afternoon, he would go out and cheat kids who had probably saved up money from mowing lawns to buy those raffle tickets. That's Jim Tressel."

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    • l3ulvl
      Hall Of Fame
      • Dec 2009
      • 17227

      #15197
      Re: NFL Off Topic

      Originally posted by Scott812313
      Flacco may have the best arm in the league. Fairly good is a monumental understatement.
      Another chance for me to bring up Stafford in the "rankings that don't mean ****" debate!
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      • Sportsforever
        NL MVP
        • Mar 2005
        • 20368

        #15198
        Re: NFL Off Topic

        Originally posted by Speedy
        How's it dumb? He purposefully sinned and violated a significant rule in a very underhanded way.

        I get the points that Luck seemingly should've known the football wasn't right (being he's handled a football for years so he should tell it was too light) but regardless a rule shouldn't be created without expecting it to be broken and levying a consequence if so.

        I think Tom is dumb in trying to prosecute the NFL; just be done with it and move on. The more he fights, the worse he looks.
        You realize that each team uses their own footballs, right? Luck never handled Brady's balls...
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        • Scott812313
          MVP
          • Jun 2009
          • 1877

          #15199
          Re: NFL Off Topic

          Originally posted by l3ulvl
          Another chance for me to bring up Stafford in the "rankings that don't mean ****" debate!
          I'm not implying elite arm strength is necessary to be a top QB, but to describe Joe Flacco as having a "fairly good" arm is insane.
          "In the morning he would read the Bible with another coach. Then, in the afternoon, he would go out and cheat kids who had probably saved up money from mowing lawns to buy those raffle tickets. That's Jim Tressel."

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          • Speedy
            #Ace
            • Apr 2008
            • 16143

            #15200
            Re: NFL Off Topic

            Originally posted by Sportsforever
            You realize that each team uses their own footballs, right? Luck never handled Brady's balls...
            Oh, well that's even more sneaky!

            I didn't know that.
            Originally posted by Gibson88
            Anyone who asked for an ETA is not being Master of their Domain.
            It's hard though...especially when I got my neighbor playing their franchise across the street...maybe I will occupy myself with Glamore Magazine.

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            • kehlis
              Moderator
              • Jul 2008
              • 27738

              #15201
              Re: NFL Off Topic

              Originally posted by Speedy
              How's it dumb? He purposefully sinned and violated a significant rule in a very underhanded way.
              So you've never driven over the speed limit?

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              • Yeah...THAT Guy
                Once in a Lifetime Memory
                • Dec 2006
                • 17294

                #15202
                Re: NFL Off Topic

                Reading one of ESPN's articles about the Brady suspension, I noticed this, and I'm not sure exactly what it means:

                Although he enjoys top-of-the-line legal representation and his lawyers will file a brilliantly written lawsuit, Tom Brady's effort to stop his suspension is doomed.


                "Q: But didn't a federal judge recently reverse an NFL arbitration ruling for Adrian Peterson?

                A: Yes. U.S. District Court Judge David Doty in Minneapolis, who has presided over NFL litigation for 25 years, reversed the punishment imposed on Peterson. He based his ruling on what he thought was an egregious error by the NFL arbitrator -- the application of a new and harsher penalty to an incident that occurred before the adoption of the new penalty. The case is on appeal, and the NFL is likely to prevail in the appeal with the high court reminding Doty that federal judges should stay away from reviews of arbitrators' rulings."

                So what would be the ramifications if the NFL does win this appeal?
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                • Beantown
                  #DoYourJob
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 31523

                  #15203
                  NFL Off Topic

                  Brady's Statement on Facebook, because it's fun to actually see the other side of the story (whether you believe it or not):

                  Wednesday, July 29, 2015 7:54 AM EDT

                  I am very disappointed by the NFL's decision to uphold the 4 game suspension against me. I did nothing wrong, and no one in the Patriots organization did either.

                  Despite submitting to hours of testimony over the past 6 months, it is disappointing that the Commissioner upheld my suspension based upon a standard that it was “probable” that I was “generally aware” of misconduct. The fact is that neither I, nor any equipment person, did anything of which we have been accused. He dismissed my hours of testimony and it is disappointing that he found it unreliable.

                  I also disagree with yesterdays narrative surrounding my cellphone. I replaced my broken Samsung phone with a new iPhone 6 AFTER my attorneys made it clear to the NFL that my actual phone device would not be subjected to investigation under ANY circumstances. As a member of a union, I was under no obligation to set a new precedent going forward, nor was I made aware at any time during Mr. Wells investigation, that failing to subject my cell phone to investigation would result in ANY discipline.

                  Most importantly, I have never written, texted, emailed to anybody at anytime, anything related to football air pressure before this issue was raised at the AFC Championship game in January. To suggest that I destroyed a phone to avoid giving the NFL information it requested is completely wrong.

                  To try and reconcile the record and fully cooperate with the investigation after I was disciplined in May, we turned over detailed pages of cell phone records and all of the emails that Mr. Wells requested. We even contacted the phone company to see if there was any possible way we could retrieve any/all of the actual text messages from my old phone. In short, we exhausted every possibility to give the NFL everything we could and offered to go thru the identity for every text and phone call during the relevant time. Regardless, the NFL knows that Mr. Wells already had ALL relevant communications with Patriots personnel that either Mr. Wells saw or that I was questioned about in my appeal hearing. There is no “smoking gun” and this controversy is manufactured to distract from the fact they have zero evidence of wrongdoing.

                  I authorized the NFLPA to make a settlement offer to the NFL so that we could avoid going to court and put this inconsequential issue behind us as we move forward into this season. The discipline was upheld without any counter offer. I respect the Commissioners authority, but he also has to respect the CBA and my rights as a private citizen. I will not allow my unfair discipline to become a precedent for other NFL players without a fight.

                  Lastly, I am overwhelmed and humbled by the support of family, friends and our fans who have supported me since the false accusations were made after the AFC Championship game. I look forward to the opportunity to resume playing with my teammates and winning more games for the New England Patriots.
                  -----

                  Basically, if he had informed everyone that no one was seeing the physical phone and the NFL and company knew that, what he did with that phone impacting the outcome of this is just more NFL BS.

                  I don't care about the 4 game suspension and whether it gets overturned at all. I just want to see the NFL get embarrassed in court (which won't happen, but I can hope).
                  Last edited by Beantown; 07-29-2015, 10:01 AM.

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                  • Speedy
                    #Ace
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 16143

                    #15204
                    Re: NFL Off Topic

                    Originally posted by kehlis
                    So you've never driven over the speed limit?
                    Kehlis, c'mon now.

                    Apple and oranges.
                    Originally posted by Gibson88
                    Anyone who asked for an ETA is not being Master of their Domain.
                    It's hard though...especially when I got my neighbor playing their franchise across the street...maybe I will occupy myself with Glamore Magazine.

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                    • slickdtc
                      Grayscale
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 17125

                      #15205
                      NFL Off Topic

                      Originally posted by HozAndMoose
                      Some good news. Eric Berry was cleared to practice tomorrow.

                      That's incredibly good news.

                      What is the status on his condition, anyway? There was a mass in his chest, right? Non-cancerous or in remission?

                      Always liked Berry. Gives me a throwback vibe. Playing football is great, but most importantly is his health.
                      Last edited by slickdtc; 07-29-2015, 09:46 AM.
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                      And how does one levy a check that will result in only a slight concussion? Do they set their shoulder-pads to 'stun'?

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                      • LowerWolf
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Jun 2006
                        • 12261

                        #15206
                        Re: NFL Off Topic

                        Originally posted by HozAndMoose
                        Some good news. Eric Berry was cleared to practice tomorrow.
                        Awesome news.

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                        • kehlis
                          Moderator
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 27738

                          #15207
                          Re: NFL Off Topic

                          Originally posted by Speedy
                          Kehlis, c'mon now.



                          Apple and oranges.

                          To you maybe. I view something that seemingly quite a few quarterbacks do in the same light as you or I speeding.

                          I speed, the only difference being when I'm caught, I own up to it.

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                          • jeebs9
                            Fear is the Unknown
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 47562

                            #15208
                            Re: NFL Off Topic

                            What I don't get in this whole Tom Brady thing is why keep pushing this thing? I've known since the day the info came out about the balls being under. That it has to be Tom Brady. Why not say? "I ****ed up." And that be the end of it. This seems like it will be ugly for both sides. Some people thought the Pats shouldn't have been in the Super Bowl because of this whole thing. But now that it has passed. It sucks that this is still going. And will hang over the whole NFL season.
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                            • Beantown
                              #DoYourJob
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 31523

                              #15209
                              Re: NFL Off Topic

                              Originally posted by jeebs9
                              I've known since the day the info came out about the balls being under. That it has to be Tom Brady.
                              Well, we now found the NFL's source that Tom Brady did it.

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                              • NYJets
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 18637

                                #15210
                                Re: NFL Off Topic

                                All these networks that carried that Belichick press conference must feel really dumb.
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