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Everyone is focusing on that last play when that entire game was officiated like trash.
Everyone is focusing on that last play when that entire game was officiated like trash.
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No. We are not going to blame the Bills not "protesting" that last play. You and I both know that no ref is reversing that call after the clock hit zero and teams are on the field. ANd you can't "protest" a football game the way you can baseball/softball.
The bottom line is they need to be better. Look at the game thread. Every single person in that thread acknowledged what a bad call it was short of a homer Patriot fan and like one other person.
If an entire thread can call out that bad call immediately someone on that crew needs to step up and reverse that call immediately.Comment
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On the Manziel topic, does anyone know if Johnny had a zero alcohol/club policy with the Browns?
If he had such a formal agreement then yes, I fully agree with the benching.
If he did not have such an agreement, then Pettine needs to get off his high horse of virtue and be a football coach.
To the issue of the game clock in last night's game, the Bills did not protest because they saw what we probably saw -- a absolutely horrible two minute drill. They probably knew one final play would not matter with a hurt QB. I suspect that after the game, today perhaps, they sent communication to the league expressing their dissatisfaction with the officiating.
That reminds me, teams cannot win, can they? Protest like the above poster suggests and you are salty whiners blaming the loss on the refs. Do it quietly and it is inexcusable.Comment
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Coaches coach, refs ref. You trust the people who are suppose to implement the rules to know them. Way to much going on for a coach so whip out a rule book especially during the final two minutes of a one possession game.
Don't know what level of softball you coach but given the compensation of professional officials ($173,000 on average), procedural errors like this and the inadvertent whistle are wildly unacceptable.Moderator
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Oh I agree, I've already ousted the refs plenty. I just don't know what they tried to do about it. I guess I'm not down there on the field, but it seems a bit ridiculous to not get your input on a play that was obviously called wrong. It takes a sentence (probably a very loud one) to get another referee to understand his colleague was in the wrong league when he made that call. As you said, all of us knew the call was wrong. There was only one person in the world watching that game who didn't know the right call.
I'm just saying I didn't see what the Bills did on their end. It looked like either they didn't try, or at the time they agreed/were okay with the call. I might have to see the play over again, but all appeared indisputable at the time. But yeah, that call needs to be made right. Pitiful, really.
You're not seeing me take my hand of blame off the refs. I just have a second hand and am saying, "Now, here's what you could have tried to do here, Buffalo...". Refs blew it. They blew it with the inadvertent whistle earlier in the game, and they blew it at the end. You see me saying the same thing in the game thread.
If it matters, highest head-coaching gig has been high school (and 18U travel ball), but I've mentored three players at SDSU as well... just not in game nor by contract heh.
High school, but you got it. More like Wally Backman though.
No, I mean more of something like an umpire that doesn't know an obstruction issue, runners advancing on dead balls, timed plays, or time limit rules for tournament play, etc. Some that, by rule book, should be reversed. Not the "subjective calls." I let them have those haha, unless I ask for a second opinion.Last edited by Blzer; 11-24-2015, 10:47 PM.Samsung PN60F8500 PDP / Anthem MRX 720 / Klipsch RC-62 II / Klipsch RF-82 II (x2) / Insignia NS-B2111 (x2) / SVS PC13-Ultra / SVS SB-2000 / Sony MDR-7506 Professional / Audio-Technica ATH-R70x / Sony PS3 & PS4 / DirecTV HR44-500 / DarbeeVision DVP-5000 / Panamax M5400-PM / Elgato HD60Comment
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No, but you are saying that Rex and Watkins are the real bone heads here. I simply said that in those situations, have played and coached football for the better part of 30 years (jesus I'm old) you are not going to know every rule and be able to recall that while trying to get the next play call in, deciding what to do if you magically get into range for X or y play, as a player tyring to decipher the hand signal, get lined up be aware of x or y defender and the sideline. Not to mention that once that clock hits 0:00 unless there is a penalty, the refs, players and coaches are making B-line to get the hell out of there.
Like earlier this yeah when Pittsburgh had 18 seconds run off the clock, no one is keeping an eye on the clock after a stoppage, because they KNOW the clock is suppose to stop. The fact that it didn't isn't something coaches, players are really looking for. Lot different than baseball, softball where there isn't a clock perse.Last edited by N51_rob; 11-24-2015, 10:57 PM.Moderator
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You're probably right, then.
It's just that in the midst of that exact moment where I, a Patriots fan, was yelling at the TV screen for getting the call wrong, it almost looked like the Bills agreed with the call. With that all I basically said was, "Then I guess they don't deserve to win and I offer no sympathy."
I hope that ref faces discipline though. If the NCAA refs did for the Miami game, this man should as well. This was the most watched program that night in the country, you can't just sweep that with a slap on the wrist.
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I get the refs are bad.
But what happened to STL is egregious and much worse. Jeff Fischer and even the league is acting like nobody had a clue Case Keenum was concussed when it was indubitable he should've been taken out by either the refs, team, MDs, players...somebody!Originally posted by Gibson88Comment
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I've seen that detailed elsewhere, but it didn't get a lot of traction here outside of the game thread. The refs were dealing with a penalty, the spotter was going to stop the game but saw trainer(s) going out, the refs ushered them back to the sideline, coaches left him in. Failures on all levels to follow through and there was a big call this week w/ all teams and spotters or whatever about this.
Nobody is pretending anything, it just isn't getting the press.Comment
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