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[slickdtc]

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I think Mike Peirira (the rules analyst on the broadcast) hit it on the head last night when the late non-PI was challenged and upheld: they’re not saying there wasn’t PI, they’re saying it wasn’t egregious enough. He said the Saints/Rams non-call is pretty much the standard and if it’s not a complete mugging, it won’t get overturned.

That’s umm, a strange way to implement this but also I think they know when we review things and slow them down there’s almost always a call to be made if the threshold is low. There’s always some contact, a hand around the waist, etc.

It’s time for coaches/teams to adjust. Only phantoms PI calls will get reversed when the call is there was PI, and only absolutely completely missed calls will get the penalty when there wasn’t one originally.

[Cardot]

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One of my "officiating" pet peeves is whenever there is a close play at the goal line....where it looks like a ball carrier either crossed the goal line by a couple inches or was down a few inches short. If they deem he was short, they spot the ball way back at the one yard line. No one complains all that much, but at that part of the field, seems to me that there is a significant difference between 6 inches and 36 inches.

[Blzer]

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One of my "officiating" pet peeves is whenever there is a close play at the goal line....where it looks like a ball carrier either crossed the goal line by a couple inches or was down a few inches short. If they deem he was short, they spot the ball way back at the one yard line. No one complains all that much, but at that part of the field, seems to me that there is a significant difference between 6 inches and 36 inches.

I thought about this at that exact moment last night, as I do every time this happens. I brought it up once and can’t remember if anyone attempted to clarify why they do this. It doesn’t make any sense. He was inches away.

I also would like to know when the clock is supposed to stop after a field goal kick is attempted. Is it when the ball hits the ground? Because at the end of a quarter/half, they always seem to let the last few seconds run down after it goes through the uprights.

[fugazi]

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More rules, more officiating.. Means more of the outcome in the refs and leagues hands.

Last night's no-call was absurd.

The officiating in Dal/GB was inconsistent, at best.

It's becoming somewhat unenjoyable to watch. Flags everywhere.

Add to that the actions of players like Zadarrius Smith feigning injury as though this is fifa or the NCAA.

League is getting awfully...made.

[ImTellinTim]

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I thought about this at that exact moment last night, as I do every time this happens. I brought it up once and can’t remember if anyone attempted to clarify why they do this. It doesn’t make any sense. He was inches away.

They shouldn't be doing this on the goalline like Cardot said. But in the middle of the field they will do this on almost every first down. They will try to have the spot of the ball so that the tip of the ball is on a hashmark. Either back or forward, whichever is closer. That way they don't need to measure nearly as much. The half to quarter of a yard of accuracy doesn't really matter and it actually saves a lot of time.

[kehlis]

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One of my "officiating" pet peeves is whenever there is a close play at the goal line....where it looks like a ball carrier either crossed the goal line by a couple inches or was down a few inches short. If they deem he was short, they spot the ball way back at the one yard line. No one complains all that much, but at that part of the field, seems to me that there is a significant difference between 6 inches and 36 inches.

Yea this happened in the Chargers/Broncos game last weekend on a fourth down and cost the Chargers a touchdown and gave the ball back to the Broncos.

[phenom1990]

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I think Mike Peirira (the rules analyst on the broadcast) hit it on the head last night when the late non-PI was challenged and upheld: they’re not saying there wasn’t PI, they’re saying it wasn’t egregious enough. He said the Saints/Rams non-call is pretty much the standard and if it’s not a complete mugging, it won’t get overturned.

That’s umm, a strange way to implement this but also I think they know when we review things and slow them down there’s almost always a call to be made if the threshold is low. There’s always some contact, a hand around the waist, etc.

It’s time for coaches/teams to adjust. Only phantoms PI calls will get reversed when the call is there was PI, and only absolutely completely missed calls will get the penalty when there wasn’t one originally.

Yeah what he said last night is what spurred my thought.

I just think that the standard used on PI is ridiculous given that is much clearer to figure out than the rest of reviewable plays.

[fugazi]

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It’s time for coaches/teams to adjust

...to easy calls being missed, and games lost, despite the ability to address most errors...and to a league that is not terribly concerned if it's rule-set will be inconsistently applied.


How much more obvious could last night's PI have been? He pinned the WRs arm...

We do realize that this kind of thing can be easily used to change the outcome of games and spreads, yes?

Not that this is new, but the mechanisms for it taking place and subsequently being chalked up to "rules interpretation" are very much in front of our faces

[areobee401]

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Remove all video review from sports, please. Said the same thing many years ago. And now all my worst fears have become a reality.

[slickdtc]

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They opened Pandora’s box like everyone said they were, and this is their way of trying to contain it.

No replay sounds awful. Too much replay is pretty bad. That’s why I say we have to adjust, kinda find the middle ground and learn to cope with it. The catch rules didn’t always make sense, but once I understood the quirks of it I became pretty good at figuring out how they would be ruled on review based on how they generally called it. Similar deal here.

[steelerfan]

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I thought about this at that exact moment last night, as I do every time this happens. I brought it up once and can’t remember if anyone attempted to clarify why they do this. It doesn’t make any sense. He was inches away.

I also would like to know when the clock is supposed to stop after a field goal kick is attempted. Is it when the ball hits the ground? Because at the end of a quarter/half, they always seem to let the last few seconds run down after it goes through the uprights.

A rule was put in about 10-15 years ago that says a minimum of X seconds must be run off on every FG attempt. I believe X=5.

[ggsimmonds]

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Something I’m not used to saying, the AFC North may be the worst division in the league.

Seems odd because for the past 15 years or so it’s been consistently one of the best

[Anthraticus]

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I think Mike Peirira (the rules analyst on the broadcast) hit it on the head last night when the late non-PI was challenged and upheld: they’re not saying there wasn’t PI, they’re saying it wasn’t egregious enough. He said the Saints/Rams non-call is pretty much the standard and if it’s not a complete mugging, it won’t get overturned.

That’s umm, a strange way to implement this but also I think they know when we review things and slow them down there’s almost always a call to be made if the threshold is low. There’s always some contact, a hand around the waist, etc.

Players would learn to adjust and stop grabbing & fouling all the time if they kept getting called on it. It's just that they've getting away with stuff for so long they'd have to relearn how to play 'clean'....but they'd do it.

[slickdtc]

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Ravens trading with Rams for CB Marcus Peters.

I’ve always held a grudge against Peters for getting DROY over Ronald Darby a few years back, because he had a bunch of picks while Darby covered way better consistently. Peters still makes big plays and gives them up, while Darby just gives them up. Ha

[slickdtc]

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And Rams trade 2 1sts and a 4th for Jalen Ramsey

Aqib Talib also to IR

They also traded for OL Austin Corbett from CLE

Rumors have Trent Williams going to CLE from WSH, too...