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  • p_rushing
    Hall Of Fame
    • Feb 2004
    • 14514

    #76
    Re: 2021 Transaction Thread

    Originally posted by kehlis
    As it’s sits right now I think the Rams only have two picks next year (along with a compensatory pick).

    I think most fans and players would live with that for a year if they win a Super bowl.
    They are really in trouble though with the cap. If you are in cap trouble, you have to have draft picks to replace the players you have to lose. At this point, they won't be able to draft any replacements and will have to try to buy players without any cap.

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    • ProfessaPackMan
      Bamma
      • Mar 2008
      • 63852

      #77
      2021 Transaction Thread

      They can acquire draft picks, but it’ll probably require giving up players they’d rather not give up or letting guys go and pushing the cap hit up another year. Or in some cases, spread the cap hit/money out over a few years.

      Teams do that all the time so they’ll be fine in regards to draft players or continuing to develop the ones they have on their roster. But I’ve yet to see any team do what you’re saying over the years.
      Last edited by ProfessaPackMan; 11-01-2021, 06:41 PM.
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      • kehlis
        Moderator
        • Jul 2008
        • 27738

        #78
        Re: 2021 Transaction Thread

        Originally posted by p_rushing
        They are really in trouble though with the cap. If you are in cap trouble, you have to have draft picks to replace the players you have to lose. At this point, they won't be able to draft any replacements and will have to try to buy players without any cap.

        They will be okay lol.

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        • ggsimmonds
          Hall Of Fame
          • Jan 2009
          • 11235

          #79
          Re: 2021 Transaction Thread

          Originally posted by p_rushing
          They are really in trouble though with the cap. If you are in cap trouble, you have to have draft picks to replace the players you have to lose. At this point, they won't be able to draft any replacements and will have to try to buy players without any cap.
          They just have to restructure a couple of guys. No team's cap situation is that dire.

          It is a bad practice if it becomes a pattern, but as a short term "get out of cap hell" card its fine.

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          • p_rushing
            Hall Of Fame
            • Feb 2004
            • 14514

            #80
            Re: 2021 Transaction Thread

            Originally posted by kehlis
            They will be okay lol.
            Originally posted by ggsimmonds
            They just have to restructure a couple of guys. No team's cap situation is that dire.

            It is a bad practice if it becomes a pattern, but as a short term "get out of cap hell" card its fine.
            They are already over next years cap even if it is at the max. They already restructured contracts this year to get under the cap. Sure they can get under the cap but it will require cutting players and not signing anyone to replace them. Then they don't have any draft picks to help replace them with cheap and good players.

            They are going to have to replace players with undrafted or extremely cheap players that no one else wants. They are ruining the future and it won't just be 1 year, it will set them back for years.

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            • mestevo
              Gooney Goo Goo
              • Apr 2010
              • 19556

              #81
              Re: 2021 Transaction Thread

              Originally posted by p_rushing
              They are already over next years cap even if it is at the max. They already restructured contracts this year to get under the cap. Sure they can get under the cap but it will require cutting players and not signing anyone to replace them. Then they don't have any draft picks to help replace them with cheap and good players.

              They are going to have to replace players with undrafted or extremely cheap players that no one else wants. They are ruining the future and it won't just be 1 year, it will set them back for years.

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              Nobody is saying it is to their detriment to not have draft picks. There are a lot of options in front of them though to remedy any issues with the cap though. Routine extension/restructures of several of their core players would put them well under whatever the cap ends up being.

              This is clearly their window, it's not sustainable indefinitely but they'll be just fine and is the typical ebb and flow of many successful franchises.

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              • slickdtc
                Grayscale
                • Aug 2004
                • 17125

                #82
                Re: 2021 Transaction Thread

                Originally posted by LambertandHam
                Melvin Ingram wants out of Pittsburgh, Steelers trying to facilitate a trade. He was supposed to rotate with Highsmith at LB, kind of fell off the map last few games. It hurts depth, but if they can get back a mid to late pick for next year, why not?


                He’s on his way to KC for a 6th round pick.
                NHL - Philadelphia Flyers
                NFL - Buffalo Bills
                MLB - Cincinnati Reds


                Originally posted by Money99
                And how does one levy a check that will result in only a slight concussion? Do they set their shoulder-pads to 'stun'?

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                • LambertandHam
                  All Star
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 8008

                  #83
                  Re: 2021 Transaction Thread

                  Originally posted by slickdtc
                  He’s on his way to KC for a 6th round pick.

                  Something is better than nothing. Steelers play KC week 16 I believe.
                  Steam

                  PSN: BigGreenZaku

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                  • ProfessaPackMan
                    Bamma
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 63852

                    #84
                    Re: 2021 Transaction Thread

                    Originally posted by TripleCrown9
                    Cowboys are releasing Jaylon Smith.



                    Hope he signs with Cleveland.


                    Originally posted by TripleCrown9
                    Turns out you're about to have a better answer than I am.



                    Smith to the Packers.


                    Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                    Is he still even good at this point or moreso a name now?
                    Looks like Cleveland can have him now as the Packers have released him today.

                    He played a total of 27 snaps with the Packers.
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                    • p_rushing
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 14514

                      #85
                      Re: 2021 Transaction Thread

                      Originally posted by mestevo
                      Nobody is saying it is to their detriment to not have draft picks. There are a lot of options in front of them though to remedy any issues with the cap though. Routine extension/restructures of several of their core players would put them well under whatever the cap ends up being.



                      This is clearly their window, it's not sustainable indefinitely but they'll be just fine and is the typical ebb and flow of many successful franchises.
                      Those aren't good options. If they extend dead money to the future, it makes it more costly in the future. If they cut high priced players, they can't afford to replace them with the same quality or quality any where near that as they have no draft picks. They can keep restructuring but doing that just makes it worse and makes a bigger hole to dig out of, specifically if they keep trading draft picks.

                      Right now they are ~$3 million over cap but remember they can't afford to sign anyone who's contract is expiring and deserves a raise. They shouldn't restructure deals they just restructured this year. Managing the cap like they have done and trading draft picks away is setting them up to have a lot of down years and the longer they try to extend the window past this year, the longer it will take to rebuild the team.

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                      • slickdtc
                        Grayscale
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 17125

                        #86
                        2021 Transaction Thread

                        They’re following the Saints model. Permanently pushing it off to the future, though trading all their picks gives it an extra degree of difficulty.

                        Also have to account for the assumption that the cap goes up each year.
                        NHL - Philadelphia Flyers
                        NFL - Buffalo Bills
                        MLB - Cincinnati Reds


                        Originally posted by Money99
                        And how does one levy a check that will result in only a slight concussion? Do they set their shoulder-pads to 'stun'?

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                        • ProfessaPackMan
                          Bamma
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 63852

                          #87
                          Re: 2021 Transaction Thread

                          Originally posted by p_rushing
                          Those aren't good options. If they extend dead money to the future, it makes it more costly in the future. If they cut high priced players, they can't afford to replace them with the same quality or quality any where near that as they have no draft picks. They can keep restructuring but doing that just makes it worse and makes a bigger hole to dig out of, specifically if they keep trading draft picks.

                          Right now they are ~$3 million over cap but remember they can't afford to sign anyone who's contract is expiring and deserves a raise. They shouldn't restructure deals they just restructured this year. Managing the cap like they have done and trading draft picks away is setting them up to have a lot of down years and the longer they try to extend the window past this year, the longer it will take to rebuild the team.

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                          This is different that what you were claiming earlier, lol.


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                          • mestevo
                            Gooney Goo Goo
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 19556

                            #88
                            Re: 2021 Transaction Thread

                            Originally posted by p_rushing
                            Those aren't good options. If they extend dead money to the future, it makes it more costly in the future. If they cut high priced players, they can't afford to replace them with the same quality or quality any where near that as they have no draft picks. They can keep restructuring but doing that just makes it worse and makes a bigger hole to dig out of, specifically if they keep trading draft picks.

                            Right now they are ~$3 million over cap but remember they can't afford to sign anyone who's contract is expiring and deserves a raise. They shouldn't restructure deals they just restructured this year. Managing the cap like they have done and trading draft picks away is setting them up to have a lot of down years and the longer they try to extend the window past this year, the longer it will take to rebuild the team.

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                            Some deals are literally made with the intention to force annual restructures (or a release), and they have players with multiple voidable years specifically for cap purposes. Again, it's not sustainable long term, but they've got a window and they're playing all of their cards.

                            Ultimately if the team is successful right now, they're making all the right moves - that's the entire point. It's not sustainable, but it's not unusual and they're far from crippled over the next year or two.

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                            • ggsimmonds
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 11235

                              #89
                              Re: 2021 Transaction Thread

                              Originally posted by p_rushing
                              Those aren't good options. If they extend dead money to the future, it makes it more costly in the future. If they cut high priced players, they can't afford to replace them with the same quality or quality any where near that as they have no draft picks. They can keep restructuring but doing that just makes it worse and makes a bigger hole to dig out of, specifically if they keep trading draft picks.

                              Right now they are ~$3 million over cap but remember they can't afford to sign anyone who's contract is expiring and deserves a raise. They shouldn't restructure deals they just restructured this year. Managing the cap like they have done and trading draft picks away is setting them up to have a lot of down years and the longer they try to extend the window past this year, the longer it will take to rebuild the team.

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                              TL;DR He doesn't agree with the all-in approach

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                              • ggsimmonds
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 11235

                                #90
                                Re: 2021 Transaction Thread

                                Guess there was no market for Desean Jackson. He was cut today

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