Washington Redskins Official Thread

[colkilla]

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Defense doesn't need to be adjusted - at least not major overhauls. Blowing up both sides of the ball is not what needs to be done. All defense needs is maybe another DE on the opposite side of Carter in order to get faster pressure and a legitimate #1 CB who can 1) tackle and 2) catch the damn ball.

Without Portis' big run and Moss catching Collins' overthrown pass with his fingers, this probably would have been a shutout for the Chiefs. And EVERYBODY and their mothers' are talking about Portis' legs and conditioning in general, but I don't see Zorn using Betts at all. WTF?

1. they have that other DE, they just insist on making him play SLB (doing him a dis-service btw)
2. they need 4 db's. rogers can't catch or cover at this point. at least not with the way they make him play off the ball so maybe i am overstating this. d hall straight took them to the cleaners. he is a good talker. man's up and takes blame. he should. he stinks. can't cover, can't tackle. he can catch, maybe make him your primary return man, something else they desperately need. doughty, what more do i need to say. overachiever, not a long term answer. and don't get me started on landry. he is TERRIBLE. he is NOT a good tackler and i'd say he is a big hitter but he MISSES to much.
3. they are old/injury prone at LB. (with the exception of orakpo, but...see above)

as for the offense, they need to cleanse themselves of this "the U" crap and cut dead weight. moss is still THEIR only playmaker, but that isn't saying much. he is too bulky for his size at this point. he is not that fast anymore either man. that td against the bucs he was getting hawked, just had enough room to stay out in front, same for the td at detroit. i love dude but he is done as a front line wr.

this team needs too many things to list, but they have a golden opportunity to fix it all in one fell swoop if the owner gets a clue, problem is he won't or at least is too stubborn to admit it if he has one...

[Pappy Knuckles]

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I'm getting really tired of seeing Zorn's "I've gotta do better" press conferences every week. I can only imagine if I was a fan of the team.

[crques]

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Not saying there's no reason to think like that but question for you (and others that feel the same)... How'd you feel coming into the season? How would you feel if they beat Detroit (and were then 3-2 right now)? What did you predict their record to be at this point of the season?

People go overboard with losses. Even Ravens fans are going nuts bc they lost two in a row. I know about all the other stuff with the Skins and losing Samuels would be an enormous blow. Personally, I expected the Skins to end up around 9-7, 10-6 with a lucky win over a team they probably should lose to. Borderline playoff team that would likely get bounced in the wild card game if they made it. So far they've lost one game I expected them to win so that puts them on pace for 8-8 instead. I had them battling Dallas for 3rd or 4th in the division, as they still are. I guess I just don't see much different than what was expected.

I also saw this possibly blowing up with oline injuries and that looks like it may be on par too, and that'd be worth the worry that everyone has, but it's not at that point yet. They'll go into the bye either 3-4 or 4-3, probably what most expected. Overall, there need to be some serious changes in areas that everyone's been discussing, but as for this year I just don't see reason to throw in the towel just yet.

Have people gone overboard now? They're 2-4 and can't score more than 6 points against an 0-5 Chiefs team. To answer your question though, at the start of the season I thought that 8-8 was a good possibility with possibly 9-7 if they caught a break somewhere. Before the season started though, I was also expecting them to be 4-2 at this point, not 2-4. Removing the playcalling duties from Zorn at this point is like trying to use gum to repair holes in the sinking Titanic.

[colkilla]

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I'm getting really tired of seeing Zorn's "I've gotta do better" press conferences every week. I can only imagine if I was a fan of the team.

my man, exactly what i have been saying. at some point you realize you CANNOT do better and just walk away. i understand he is wanting to keep collecting those checks so snyder will have to fire him, but man, have some pride. sometimes there is more pride in admitting you just are not good enough, you never are going to be good enough, and just go the hell back to the woods in washington state and hide out until a local high school needs a quarterback coach or something...

[colkilla]

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Have people gone overboard now? They're 2-4 and can't score more than 6 points against an 0-5 Chiefs team. To answer your question though, at the start of the season I thought that 8-8 was a good possibility with possibly 9-7 if they caught a break somewhere. Before the season started though, I was also expecting them to be 4-2 at this point, not 2-4. Removing the playcalling duties from Zorn at this point is like trying to use gum to repair holes in the sinking Titanic.

i get what both of you are saying. at 2-4 the season is not lost. there are a lot of bad teams, but your eyes don't lie to you. this team is a bad team, isn't getting any better and is staring 2-14 straight in the face. simple as that. to top it all off there is no franchise qb to draft next year so what do you do? jason campbell has the skills to be a playmaker, but he is not a playmaker. he has shown that. he is uncomfortable in the pocket, he looks uncomfortable out of the pocket. maybe he'll be more comfortable on the bench. i have said it before and i will say it again, i like the dude, wanted badly for him to be the man here but it is not going to happen. he needs EVERYTHING around him to go perfectly to be successful. he would have been great on the '91 team with an o line that gave up like zero sacks, but in todays nfl, with the blitzing defenses that ish is over unless you can read defenses quickly and have a quick release, which he has neither. unfortunately i think the qb that can play behind the current line doesn't exist...

[N51_rob]

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http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Lewis_to_Take_Over_Play_Calling_Duties_71387.jsp

Sherman Lewis to call plays. Who didn't see this coming besides Zorn?

Zorn is DONE in DC. By Tuesday 12:25 pm on October 27 there will be a new "interim" head coach.

[colkilla]

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http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles...ties_71387.jsp

Sherman Lewis to call plays. Who didn't see this coming besides Zorn?

Zorn is DONE in DC. By Tuesday 12:25 pm on October 27 there will be a new "interim" head coach.

yeah, the writing was on the wall when he was hired. i hope like hell they put jerry gray as the interim. if he weren't already here i'd like him as a hire for the future. he has been a very good coordinator/position coach and he is young and energetic. he also has the ability to light a fire under somebody's ***. they need a gm and IF that were to happen the new gm would want to bring in his own guy, rightfully so, but i like jerry gray and blache and the defensive staff as a whole. they need some fine tuning but i also think they play to keep the game close in case the offense can stumble on a td or two. if the offense put pressure on the other team's d i think you could really see them open up the blitzes and stuff and take more chances. ah hell, there i go thinking this organization has some kind of hope for the future again...

[JBH3]

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Is it true that Chris Samuels' career is likely over (stenosis)?

[Checmate101]

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Yup.. @ JB

and the only person we have to back him up is bum *** Stephon Heyer who get's blown up every week. Trent Cole and the Eagle ends going to have their way next week.

I'm staying with my boys though, I'm on the boat with them sinking down in the water. hopefully one day by the time 2025 hit we would rise again.

Are we going to win anymore games?

See what sherman Lewis can do. Dude been out of football for 5 years calling bingo and ****. So We'll see

[emalloy3]

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http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles...ties_71387.jsp

Sherman Lewis to call plays. Who didn't see this coming besides Zorn?

Zorn is DONE in DC. By Tuesday 12:25 pm on October 27 there will be a new "interim" head coach.

*******, you got the time and date stamped. I hope your right though cause I am tired of this dude. Oh you got the lotto numbers while your at it!LOL

[emalloy3]

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See what sherman Lewis can do. Dude been out of football for 5 years calling bingo and ****. So We'll see

Sherman Lewis: B14.....I repeat B14......

Whoever is the starting QB: Uh coach that's not one of the plays

Sherman Lewis: Oh, I'm sorry here we go run to the right on First and second down and throw it deep to #89 on third down, and fourth down punt. Have someone wake me up when we get the ball back.

[JBH3]

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Yup.. @ JB

and the only person we have to back him up is bum *** Stephon Heyer who get's blown up every week. Trent Cole and the Eagle ends going to have their way next week.

That's sad man. He was a good guy, and a great player. I hope the Eagles can score a freaking TD moreover than register a butt load of sacks.

I'm staying with my boys though, I'm on the boat with them sinking down in the water. hopefully one day by the time 2025 hit we would rise again.

Are we going to win anymore games?

I commend you for sinking w/ the ship. That's your team, might as well. I suspect you've got a fighting chance @ Oakland. Other than that it's a pretty grueling schedule from here on out if you're a Redskins fan.

[colkilla]

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Is it true that Chris Samuels' career is likely over (stenosis)?

yes, unfortunately (i guess). he is way overrated but still light years better than anything they got. did anyone see the play yesterday when heyer got pushed down (pushed, not knocked down, it wasn't like he got blown up) and stepped over by some nobody from the chefs. he then got up and had his back to the action and just looked so overwhelmed. i actually laughed out loud man. they are in serious trouble this week against that philly pass rush. maybe the old bingo caller will put sellers in the wildcat and just let him hammer at the l.o.s. every play and punt. at least that way the clock runs and gives the defense some kind of breather. i'll go on record early and say 27-9 eagles...

[crques]

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i get what both of you are saying. at 2-4 the season is not lost. there are a lot of bad teams, but your eyes don't lie to you. this team is a bad team, isn't getting any better and is staring 2-14 straight in the face. simple as that. to top it all off there is no franchise qb to draft next year so what do you do? jason campbell has the skills to be a playmaker, but he is not a playmaker. he has shown that. he is uncomfortable in the pocket, he looks uncomfortable out of the pocket. maybe he'll be more comfortable on the bench. i have said it before and i will say it again, i like the dude, wanted badly for him to be the man here but it is not going to happen. he needs EVERYTHING around him to go perfectly to be successful. he would have been great on the '91 team with an o line that gave up like zero sacks, but in todays nfl, with the blitzing defenses that ish is over unless you can read defenses quickly and have a quick release, which he has neither. unfortunately i think the qb that can play behind the current line doesn't exist...

I completely agree with your thoughts on Campbell. I've said it before and I'll say it again, he has some nice skills but he just hasn't shown the complete package that it takes to be a successful NFL starting QB. He's still young though and may go somewhere else and have a very productive & successful career but it's not going to be in Washington. He was given his chance (although maybe it wasn't as fair as it should have been given all the change with coordinators and such over the past 3 seasons), and he didn't make the most of it. It probably wasn't all his fault but he certainly has to shoulder the blame for some of it. This whole franchise just lacks leadership right now, from the owner, to the head coach,a ll the way down to the QB.

By the way, your prediction might be giving too much credit to the 'Skins. LOL With the Eagles getting embarassed yesterday and the turmoil that Washington's going through right now, I'm going to say Philadelphia wins it 34-7. Even though the defense has been really good so far, I don't know how much longer they continue to put forth great effort only to watch the offense continuously piss these games away.

[Checmate101]

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Y'all think Jason will get on with another team next year? or you think his football carrer is over with after this year?..

Nobody wants him. Denver didn't want him when we offered a him and a draft pick for Cutler they turned that down. but the Broncos took the same kind of deal to get Orton. Is Jason really that bad, or do our team make him look mad.

Rodney Harrison went on record and said Jason is a back up, he doesn't put any kind of fear in a defense.

So what y'all think?

to me, I think I give Collins the start. He has a full week to prepare plus a extra day since we play on Monday night.