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  • rdnk
    All Star
    • Feb 2009
    • 5730

    #196
    Re: The Official 2018-19 Season Talk Thread

    I read somewhere that Muzzin plays a fair bit on his off side, so the Leafs are covered even if they don't acquire another D.
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    • Majingir
      Moderator
      • Apr 2005
      • 47481

      #197
      Re: The Official 2018-19 Season Talk Thread

      Originally posted by rdnk
      I read somewhere that Muzzin plays a fair bit on his off side, so the Leafs are covered even if they don't acquire another D.
      Rielly - Muzzin pairing would be great. But given that Hainsey and Gardiner are expiring, wouldn't hurt to see who they can get on the right side. Even a 3 team deal where Leafs get a RHD from team 2, team 3(West team making a playoff push) gets Gardiner, team 2 gets picks from team 3 and more from leafs.

      But this trade is even better because Muzzin is under contract next year too. Basically same cost as Gardiner this year.
      Last edited by Majingir; 01-29-2019, 11:44 AM.

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      • Perceptor
        MVP
        • Jun 2003
        • 4364

        #198
        Re: The Official 2018-19 Season Talk Thread

        Solid solid trade by Dubas. Muzzin is a definite upgrade and moving Hainsey down needed to be done a while ago.

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        • Majingir
          Moderator
          • Apr 2005
          • 47481

          #199
          Re: The Official 2018-19 Season Talk Thread

          Of all possible available names, Gudas is one I think could be most realistic/easiest for Leafs to get. Just don't know what Flyers price for him could be.

          It'd be great if they could package Kapanen in a deal for a guy on Blues or Canes, that way Leafs get a top line RHD AND make a move which can help their salary (since Kapanen will be needing a big raise since he's an RFA, and Leafs already gonna be spending lots on their other forwards). The dmen on Blues/Canes in these rumors all make around the amount that Kapanen could get, so it'd be worth it.

          Or get Gudas now, then in offseason trade Kapanen + Zaitsev in a package to Blues or Canes. That'd be another ideal situation. Full push this year, then make cap managing move in offseason which also helps D.

          To the Flyers fans in here, what would you say should be the price for Gudas?
          Last edited by Majingir; 01-29-2019, 07:30 PM.

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          • Perceptor
            MVP
            • Jun 2003
            • 4364

            #200
            Re: The Official 2018-19 Season Talk Thread

            I'm not sure for Gudas, but I don't see it being as high as what they had to trade to get Muzzin.

            In Calgary, the issue is scoring depth. After the top line and Tkachuk, the scoring really drops. I've been reading that some fans don't want to give up a 1st rounder again.

            My argument against that is that for the first time in a very long time, the Flames are legitimately good. They're not a bubble team. Assuming they continue to play well, their 1st rounder is going to be near the bottom. So really, are you telling me you wouldn't give up that low round pick in a package for someone like Panarin, who would substantially improve the team?

            Anyhow, I'm very happy this season as a Flames fan.

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            • daflyboys
              Banned
              • May 2003
              • 18238

              #201
              Re: The Official 2018-19 Season Talk Thread

              I'm getting that "holy ****" feeling about the Flyers and Hart. Such a different team since the coaching change.

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              • Majingir
                Moderator
                • Apr 2005
                • 47481

                #202
                Re: The Official 2018-19 Season Talk Thread

                Might be too little too late for Flyers. Even with this win streak, still 9 points back of a playoff spot, 3 teams ahead of them who aren't even in playoffs.

                Though if Hart is the real deal in net, that'd solve a major problem for Flyers. They could go into offseason with almost 35M in cap space simply to go after some forwards.

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                • rdnk
                  All Star
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 5730

                  #203
                  Re: The Official 2018-19 Season Talk Thread

                  Pens swap Brassard, Sheahan, a 2nd and 2 4ths to the Panthers for Bjugstad and McCann.

                  Pens continue to shuffle the deck. This is the second time they've dealt players on expiring contracts for longer term deals. If Bjugstad can stay healthy and McCann develop, then the Pens come out of this looking good, but there is a fair amount of risk involved.

                  For the Panthers, my feeling is Brassard is traded again, but who knows, maybe the Panthers decide to extend him.
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                  • Majingir
                    Moderator
                    • Apr 2005
                    • 47481

                    #204
                    Re: The Official 2018-19 Season Talk Thread

                    I could see Panthers dealing both guys again at some point. I think they won this deal big time.

                    McCann hasn't really done much despite being a 1st round pick in 2014. And Bjugstad got his deal when it looked like he'd be at least a 20G/20A 2nd line guy.

                    In return you get a 2nd, two 4ths, and 2 guys who you could still ship out for picks.

                    Panthers have done great job trading.

                    Since the Hoffman deal they basically dealt Petrovic,Bjugstad,McCann,Hutchinson for a 3rd,4th,7th,Hoffman,Wideman,Brassard and Sheahan (all other picks acquired offset)

                    Pens are coming close to entering Blackhawks territory. Winning cups, now paying for it in the cap. Schultz is on LTIR, and next season even with cap going up, Pens can't go into it with the roster they have now. Wanting Bjugstad at his 4.1M cap hit when he MIGHT get you 40pts.

                    Kessel or Hornqvist basically need to go. And even then, don't know what Pens would want in the trade. No use for a roster player since they can't fit anyone else in, and dealing a key roster player for prospects is signaling you're taking a step back, something Pens probably aren't doing with Malkin still around for at least 3 more seasons. Just crazy seeing them having 8 forwards making 3.5M or more for at least next 2 seasons.


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                    What took so long to do something like that? Even Leafs retired his number before the Wings and Leafs used to have a tradition to never retire anyones number.

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                    • daflyboys
                      Banned
                      • May 2003
                      • 18238

                      #205
                      Re: The Official 2018-19 Season Talk Thread

                      Originally posted by Majingir
                      Might be too little too late for Flyers. Even with this win streak, still 9 points back of a playoff spot, 3 teams ahead of them who aren't even in playoffs.
                      With over 30 games to go, that is not insurmountable ...... difficult, of course, but not impossible. Hey, this streak could stall now or who knows what they can do over the next 10/15 games. That's why they play 'em.

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                      • slickdtc
                        Grayscale
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 17125

                        #206
                        Re: The Official 2018-19 Season Talk Thread

                        Yeah, I’m just trying to enjoy some decent hockey. We won 10 games in a row one season and didn’t make the playoffs (I think 2 other Metro teams also won 10 straight the same season). I’ve looked at the math. We need a lot of help on top of actually playing well. For a season I’ve chalked as a wash, any competitive hockey we see is gravy.

                        I’ll trade this years playoffs if it means Carter Hart is the real deal. Stolarz has even got in on the act too.

                        Wish they would’ve let Hextall reap the rewards of his harvest/patience.
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                        • Majingir
                          Moderator
                          • Apr 2005
                          • 47481

                          #207
                          Re: The Official 2018-19 Season Talk Thread

                          The bye week sucks. Sloppy hockey after guys have been off too long.

                          Start season October 1st every year, no bye week, and the back to backs get reduced. Back to backs are one of the things that drain guys more, especially when it's playing in 2 different cities.

                          I'm sure others are bad too, but leafs have 33 games left after the break. Of those 33, 12 are part of a back to back.

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                          • kehlis
                            Moderator
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 27738

                            #208
                            Re: The Official 2018-19 Season Talk Thread

                            Originally posted by Majingir
                            The bye week sucks. Sloppy hockey after guys have been off too long.
                            That's just a lame excuse people use to make themselves feel better about their teams bad play out of the break.

                            In football, the bye week is celebrated as week of rest lol.

                            The bye week is fine, some just use it as an excuse for playing poorly out of the break.

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                            • Majingir
                              Moderator
                              • Apr 2005
                              • 47481

                              #209
                              Re: The Official 2018-19 Season Talk Thread

                              Originally posted by kehlis
                              That's just a lame excuse people use to make themselves feel better about their teams bad play out of the break.



                              In football, the bye week is celebrated as week of rest lol.



                              The bye week is fine, some just use it as an excuse for playing poorly out of the break.
                              There were multiple bad performances so it wasn't just 1 team. Speaking of bad, Ducks allowed 9 goals.

                              And coaches have even said in the past that the bye week sucks cause guys aren't skating. It's almost like having a lower body injury keeping you out day to day, you can't even skate in the meanwhile while you recover. No practice was allowed until Thursday I believe.
                              Last edited by Majingir; 02-03-2019, 12:39 AM.

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                              • daflyboys
                                Banned
                                • May 2003
                                • 18238

                                #210
                                Re: The Official 2018-19 Season Talk Thread

                                Maybe they can't officially skate, but these are professional organizations ... I'm sure there are ways around it.

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