Tony Stewart Strikes and Kills On-Foot Driver

[Crimsontide27]

Re: Tony Stewart Strikes and Kills On-Foot Driver

Just wondering; if Kenseth goes near Stewart to "scare him" and runs him over and kills him, do we absolve him also??

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NsaRI7btGcQ

Several points to make here.

1) Stewart did not in fact swerve to hit the guy at the dirt track. If you watch the video
video closely, the car didn't swerve until it had already struck the other driver and in
fact the guy right in front of Stewart damn near hit him too.

2) The conditions at the Nascar track were in fact a hell of a lot different. You have a
driver that is clearly visible, with great ambient light , going down a straight road. At the dirt
track incident you have a driver with a black helmet, a black firesuit, on a dirt track,
right outside of a corner turn, with limited visibility conditions being dust and poor
lighting, walking straight on into oncoming traffic and advanced almost to the bottom
of the track which left drivers with no where to go.

3) Edit ) You will also not that Stewart does not stand in front of the driver when he launches his
helmet at the other driver either. He is standing away from the car and throwing his helmet into
another car. Wade decided to walk out into oncoming traffic coming right out of a turn.



Just like with everything else in society today, we have to find a way to blame anyone else
other than the person responsible for their own actions. Just like the thieves that tried to rob Burger King by climbing through the roof and slipped and hurt themselves and successful field a lawsuit against them for their injuries.....just like the bank robbers that crash their car during a getaway and then sue the police for chasing them in the first place....just like the burglers that sue a homeowner when they break into a home and put its occupants in danger and get shot by the homeowners in selfdefense....

Its a tragic situation no doubt. Had Mr. Ward stayed in his car while the paramedics where coming ( They arrived seconds after he was hit ), had Mr. Ward gotten out of his vehicle and stood near the wall where the accident occurred , had Mr. Ward NOT walked half way down the track trying to confront a driver.

Mr. Ward in fact is the only one to blame for this accident. Had he not got caught up with emotions and made stupid decision after stupid decision, he would be alive today.

Once again, its horrible to know someone lost their life here, but a daisy chain of stupid decisions by Mr. Ward caused his death. At any point in time had he decided to stay in the car, stay near the car, or walk down half the length of the track where it was the only place for the vehicles to drive....he would be alive today.

[Jet Sufferer]

Re: Tony Stewart Strikes and Kills On-Foot Driver

Full disclosure NOT a Tony Stewart fan.

Tony Stewart is a supremely talented, dangerously reckless, recklessly arrogant self centered moron who is never at fault - even when he clearly is.

When he intentionally ran I believe Kenseth off the road at Daytona, just turned left and tried to and did wreck him at full speed I couldn’t believe he wasn’t black flagged. At that point if I was running Nascar he would have been hauled off the track and suspended the rest of the year to think about the way he drives. He has little regard for human life, his temper takes precedent, screw Tony Stewart.

With that being said in no way shape or form do I believe he intentionally tried to hit or kill that kid.

Do I believe he might have gunned it to say FU kid or give him a face full of dirt and chuckle on his way by? Absolutely possible and in that case criminal.

Do I also believe he might have gunned it to avoid him? Absolutely, he’s a reckless horses behind but not a stone killer.

Only Stewart knows for sure and I’m sure his story will be he revved the car to avoid him, which I hope is true for all involved, even him.

Now if you asked me before yesterday who would be most likely to be involved in this kind of tragedy/accident without hesitation my answer would have been Tony Stewart.

I hope he wasn’t trying to scare the kid, but he might have been, and if he was I doubt he has the character to admit it and serve the time that it comes with.

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I just read a post that makes me crazy. Playing a videogame is NOT the same as real life. WOW just......

[Crimsontide27]

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If you watch the frame by frame video then you can see at :29-:30secs the driver of the #45 car almost lost control by avoiding Wade, at :31secs is when the impact occurred between Steward and Wade. Stewarts car made no visible signs of going off course until the impact occurred at :31 secs. There literally was a split second from the time the #45 car almost impacted Wade and Stewart did hit him.

[Sinner]

Re: Tony Stewart Strikes and Kills On-Foot Driver

If you watch the frame by frame video then you can see at :29-:30secs the driver of the #45 car almost lost control by avoiding Wade, at :31secs is when the impact occurred between Steward and Wade. Stewarts car made no visible signs of going off course until the impact occurred at :31 secs. There literally was a split second from the time the #45 car almost impacted Wade and Stewart did hit him.

Yeah very tragic situation and it's terrible for his family and friends but Ward should have not been walking on the track like that. Like said the 45 car almost hit him, Stewart was just coming from around a corner and it seems to me that it would have been really hard for him to see Ward because the wings on the cars make them so tall that if he's coming around the corner right behind the 45 car he wouldn't have seen Ward till it was to late because the 45 car would have totally blocked him out coming around the turn.

Also according to the angle of the turn in the short time between coming behind the 45 car toward Ward maybe he blended in with his own car.

Ward himself walked down the track and toward the turn where he started his wreck.

[ThreeKing]

Re: Tony Stewart Strikes and Kills On-Foot Driver

It's funny how so many of you are conveniently forgetting that none of this happens if Stewart doesn't wreck his car on purpose in the first place. Which wasn't even needed. But we'll probably hear some lame excuse on that as well.

Guaranteed if that was your kid who got killed, y'all wouldn't be defending Stewart the way you are now.

Also....still waiting to hear a LEGIT reason as to why he even revved up and gunned his engine towards the kid. And don't give me this crap that he didn't, because you can not only hear it, but see it as well. This isn't some grainy UFO video. It's plain as day what happened.

[kehlis]

Re: Tony Stewart Strikes and Kills On-Foot Driver

It's funny how so many of you are conveniently forgetting that none of this happens if Stewart doesn't wreck his car on purpose in the first place. Which wasn't even needed. But we'll probably hear some lame excuse on that as well.

No one forgot about it.

It's completely irrelevant to the discussion as to what happened afterward.

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Re: Tony Stewart Strikes and Kills On-Foot Driver

IMO Stewart has to take accountability, but he's an ahole and will prolly play the victim card here.

[Crimsontide27]

Re: Tony Stewart Strikes and Kills On-Foot Driver

It's funny how so many of you are conveniently forgetting that none of this happens if Stewart doesn't wreck his car on purpose in the first place. Which wasn't even needed. But we'll probably hear some lame excuse on that as well.

Guaranteed if that was your kid who got killed, y'all wouldn't be defending Stewart the way you are now.

Also....still waiting to hear a LEGIT reason as to why he even revved up and gunned his engine towards the kid. And don't give me this crap that he didn't, because you can not only hear it, but see it as well. This isn't some grainy UFO video. It's plain as day what happened.

I will be awaiting your insightful frame by frame analysis showing that you somehow know Tonys car is the engine you heard even though the #45 car is shown when you hear any engine noise. Also would like you to show where Tony Stewarts car " revved up" and gunned his car toward anyone. If you "gun" the engine and then try to "swerve" in any direction in these types of cars then you will lose control. According to the video that everyone has already seen, there is zero video evidence that shows Tony Stewarts car deviated from any path he was driving until after the driver was struck.

You are just looking to find fault with anyone other than the person responsible for causing the accident in the first place.

[ThreeKing]

Re: Tony Stewart Strikes and Kills On-Foot Driver

No one forgot about it.



It's completely irrelevant to the discussion as to what happened afterward.

LOL, seriously? How is it completely irrelevant?? If he doesn't wreck him for no good reason, the kid doesn't get out of his car. It's that simple.

I've already stated that the kid made a huge mistake by walking out in the middle of that track like that, but it was under caution, because of the wreck TONY CAUSED.

If you're mad because the kid is raising a stink about it, handle it afterwards by the pit or garage area.

You don't play a game like that with a vehicle, even if you find the kid was "wrong".

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Re: Tony Stewart Strikes and Kills On-Foot Driver

Exactly:-!

[kehlis]

Re: Tony Stewart Strikes and Kills On-Foot Driver

LOL, seriously? How is it completely irrelevant?? If he doesn't wreck him for no good reason, the kid doesn't get out of his car. It's that simple.

I've already stated that the kid made a huge mistake by walking out in the middle of that track like that, but it was under caution, because of the wreck TONY CAUSED.

If you're mad because the kid is raising a stink about it, handle it afterwards by the pit or garage area.

You don't play a game like that with a vehicle, even if you find the kid was "wrong".

Thanks, proved my point.


No matter what side your on of intent everyone can agree that he never should have gone onto the track proving that the only thing the wreck had to do with this was put him in that position.

[Perfect Zero]

Re: Tony Stewart Strikes and Kills On-Foot Driver

It's funny how so many of you are conveniently forgetting that none of this happens if Stewart doesn't wreck his car on purpose in the first place. Which wasn't even needed. But we'll probably hear some lame excuse on that as well.

I didn't see any evidence that Stewart "wrecked [Ward's] car on purpose." Sometimes you get loose out of the second turn. Things happen. Even if that was what happened, it still didn't give Ward any reason to get out of his car.

Guaranteed if that was your kid who got killed, y'all wouldn't be defending Stewart the way you are now.

This isn't relevant to the discussion. Even if I were to entertain your hypothetical situation, I would hope my kid wouldn't be stupid enough to walk out on a dimly track in a dark suit in the middle of the night against traffic that is going around at a decent speed.

Also....still waiting to hear a LEGIT reason as to why he even revved up and gunned his engine towards the kid. And don't give me this crap that he didn't, because you can not only hear it, but see it as well. This isn't some grainy UFO video. It's plain as day what happened.

Have you seen the image that was posted earlier about what it looks like in the cockpit of a Sprint Car? Take that and make it a poorly lit track and add in the fact that nobody is expecting an idiot walking toward oncoming traffic.Was Stewart even aware that there was a driver on the track?

I really do hope that some people will stop with the whole "Stewart intended to intimidate him" stuff, because nobody honestly knows what Stewart was thinking. I would advise that the local authorities do their investigation before we break out the gallows.

[ThreeKing]

Re: Tony Stewart Strikes and Kills On-Foot Driver

If I, for whatever reason, ever lose my temper behind the wheel of my car and kill a kid, I'll be sure to come to this website so I'll feel better about myself. lol

Hope you guys defend me like you do Tony Stewart.

[franko3219]

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I would advise that the local authorities do their investigation before we break out the gallows.

Agreed 100%. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion obviously. I just find it hard to believe that if it was so obviouse that there was any intent of any kind, that there haven't been charges brought already. Granted the only person that will know is Stewart himself at this point.