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  • Segagendude
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    • Aug 2008
    • 7940

    #106
    Re: Tony Stewart Strikes and Kills On-Foot Driver

    Originally posted by bigbob
    “The focus should be on Mr. Stewart and not my son."



    I consider "hush money" being someone trying to cover something up. They will eventually try and get money but some people believe Tony was going to give them money anyways.
    "Out of court settlement for an undisclosed amount." Better?

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    • slickdtc
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      • Aug 2004
      • 17125

      #107
      Re: Tony Stewart Strikes and Kills On-Foot Driver

      Originally posted by Flamehead
      Any acknowledgement from them regarding marijuana being in their son's system during the race, enough to impair judgement--like deciding to leave his car and step in front of another?



      I'm guessing not.

      If he's smoking before a race, he probably isn't impaired by it. He's likely a habitual smoker and therefore the effects aren't as severe as they would be to a first timer. Or maybe he just wanted to calm his pre-race nerves.

      But it surely doesn't help his (or his family's at this point) cause.

      If he has alcohol in his system, his actions would make sense. His actions go against the usual effects of marijuana. I think that's a non-story.
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      • mgoblue
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        • Jul 2002
        • 25477

        #108
        Re: Tony Stewart Strikes and Kills On-Foot Driver

        Originally posted by slickdtc
        If he's smoking before a race, he probably isn't impaired by it. He's likely a habitual smoker and therefore the effects aren't as severe as they would be to a first timer. Or maybe he just wanted to calm his pre-race nerves.

        But it surely doesn't help his (or his family's at this point) cause.

        If he has alcohol in his system, his actions would make sense. His actions go against the usual effects of marijuana. I think that's a non-story.
        Still though, you can get a DUI for marijuana...

        Still think it was just a stupid kid making a rash decision that got himself killed

        His family, while I feel for them, seems like they're out for money now...i dunno, just don't seem honest to me anymore.
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        • Fresh Tendrils
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          • Jul 2002
          • 36131

          #109
          Re: Tony Stewart Strikes and Kills On-Foot Driver

          Was it just found in his system or do they know for a fact he smoked immediately preceding the race?



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          • BurghFan
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            • Jul 2009
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            #110
            Re: Tony Stewart Strikes and Kills On-Foot Driver

            Originally posted by mgoblue
            Still though, you can get a DUI for marijuana...

            Still think it was just a stupid kid making a rash decision that got himself killed

            His family, while I feel for them, seems like they're out for money now...i dunno, just don't seem honest to me anymore.
            This was apparently news to LeVeon Bell But yeah, I have little doubt the parents will be filing a wrongful death suit against Stewart in the future.

            Originally posted by Fresh Tendrils
            Was it just found in his system or do they know for a fact he smoked immediately preceding the race?
            Think it was just found in his system, but they might be able to calculate how long before the race he'd smoked by looking at the concentration of the active compound vs. its metabolic breakdown products or something like that.
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            • mgoblue
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              • Jul 2002
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              #111
              Re: Tony Stewart Strikes and Kills On-Foot Driver

              Originally posted by BurghFan
              This was apparently news to LeVeon Bell But yeah, I have little doubt the parents will be filing a wrongful death suit against Stewart in the future.



              Think it was just found in his system, but they might be able to calculate how long before the race he'd smoked by looking at the concentration of the active compound vs. its metabolic breakdown products or something like that.
              Yeah....I mean I doubt it factored in that much, but still. You can't just dismiss it completely, you know? His family's just ignoring it, that's what annoys me.
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              • franko3219
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                • Jul 2009
                • 788

                #112
                Re: Tony Stewart Strikes and Kills On-Foot Driver

                Originally posted by BurghFan
                This was apparently news to LeVeon Bell But yeah, I have little doubt the parents will be filing a wrongful death suit against Stewart in the future.



                Think it was just found in his system, but they might be able to calculate how long before the race he'd smoked by looking at the concentration of the active compound vs. its metabolic breakdown products or something like that.
                I don't have a link but while the DA didn't say the exact levels, he did say that there was enough to impair judgement. Now, that can mean different things to different people. Some may say that about finding any trace of drugs or alcohol. It could also mean that the levels were high enough to say that it could not have been too long before the race. My guess is that it will not be long before we have some details. Im not sure if the evidence is still protected due to a pending civil case, but if not, I'm sure that a freedom of information request has already been made regarding the evidence. I never really supported Stewart being charged based on the information that was available, but one thing that I'm very surprised about is that no blood work was done on Stewart. I personally do not think that he would have shown any drugs or alcohol, I just figured that would be death investigation 101.

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                • jasontoddwhitt
                  MVP
                  • May 2003
                  • 8095

                  #113
                  Re: Tony Stewart Strikes and Kills On-Foot Driver

                  They may still try and bring a civil case against Tony, but with a toxicology report showing their son was under the influence at the time of his death, most lawyers won't touch the case.

                  Probably won't stop the family though. I can't imagine what they are going through, but they are shifting the blame from their son, who's actions are the reason why he is no longer on this earth.

                  They'll eventually find some crackpot lawyer who'll take the case.
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                  • brandon27
                    MVP
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 1979

                    #114
                    Re: Tony Stewart Strikes and Kills On-Foot Driver

                    Originally posted by mgoblue
                    Yeah....I mean I doubt it factored in that much, but still. You can't just dismiss it completely, you know? His family's just ignoring it, that's what annoys me.
                    That letter his Aunt published in some paper was really bothersome to me. I just wonder at what point, if ever the family is going to at least admit that Ward Jr. made a mistake, a huge mistake... walking out into a live race track. Whether under caution or not, is an incredibly foolish idea. That whole letter really rubbed me the wrong way, as if she's trying to pass off her opinion (which I'm sure is a bit biased because she's his aunt) as fact.

                    I know its incredibly difficult for the family, no doubt about that, and I'm sure if Stewart didn't have a reputation for being a hothead at times, I'm sure they'd have just accepted the fact it was an accident. Say, if it was a guy like Mark Martin. I don't want to speculate that, but for them to completly ignore the toxicology report, and still continue to point blame, it's gone a bit too far now, and I agree with most of you in here now, it's just them posturing themselves to get ready for the civil suit to likely look for a settlement.

                    I feel bad for everyone involved in this though, what a terrible situation. I guess the only one who really knows what happened out there for sure is Tony Stewart, and what a terrible thing to have to live with for him, as well as the Ward family.
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                    • Crimsontide27
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 1505

                      #115
                      Re: Tony Stewart Strikes and Kills On-Foot Driver

                      At no point will his family ever accept that he was responsible for his own death. In todays society people have been taught that everything is always someone elses fault and the judicial system usually rewards these people as well.

                      Very few people are held accountable for their actions today since they can continue to blame others for their mistakes.

                      Few cases in point )

                      Thief breaks into a home and steps on a toy on a staircase and falls and gets injured. He sues the homeowner and wins the case.

                      A few years ago a thief tried to break into Burger King and fell through the roof near the broiler and got seriously injured. Of course Burger King was found responsible for his injuries.

                      Bank robber stole a car and committed armed bank robbery. Once he ran outside he got on a stolen motorcycle in order to get away from the police quicker. The police responded faster than he anticipated and the police managed to catch up to him during his getaway. In the commission of fleeing from the police he wrecked the bike and ended up getting seriously injured. He managed to successfully sue the police stating that had they not been chasing him, he wouldn't have crashed. Had he not robbed the bank in the first place, they wouldn't have chased him....but that was an irrelevant fact.

                      Or one that hit very close to home on a personal level. My grandmothers next door neighbor had her house burglarized twice over the past 6 months. She was an elderly lady, approx. 80+ years old and decided to buy a gun for protection. A few months later she heard someone trying to break through her front door so she shot through the door and wounded the "would be" thief. The thief then successfully sued the homeowner for shooting him, even though when he was taken to the hospital he had stolen items already found on him.

                      None of this people were innocent in the least and had they not been in the process of committing crimes, they wouldn't have been hurt. But each time they were successful in reversing the blame in the court systems and came out being rewarded more for suing than had they been successful in their crime in the first place.

                      Same thing here in the Stewart tragedy.

                      They ignore he got out of the car
                      They ignore he walked down into the race line
                      They ignore and never publicized he had drugs in his system

                      They ignore everything that this kid did that led to his death.

                      ITS ALL TONYS FAULT!!

                      They will sue and most likely be paid with an out of court settlement and live the rest of their lives much more financially stable than before. Its just the way it works unfortunately.

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                      • BurghFan
                        #BurghProud
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 10050

                        #116
                        Re: Tony Stewart Strikes and Kills On-Foot Driver

                        Ward family files wrongful death lawsuit vs Tony Stewart

                        LOWVILLE, N.Y. -- The family of Kevin Ward Jr. filed a wrongful death lawsuit Friday against NASCAR Sprint Cup driver Tony Stewart, nearly a year after Stewart's sprint car struck and killed the 20-year-old driver under caution during a race at an upstate New York dirt track.

                        The Ward family filed the lawsuit in Lewis County Supreme Court, which covers the Ward home in Port Leyden and is about 175 miles northeast of Watkins Glen International, where Stewart practiced Friday in preparation for the Sprint Cup Series race Sunday.

                        "Our son was truly the light of our lives and we miss him terribly every day," Ward's parents said in a statement. "Our hope is that this lawsuit will hold Tony Stewart responsible for killing our son and show him there are real consequences when someone recklessly takes another person's life."
                        smh, I'm sure nobody is surprised by this. Like Crimson said in the above post, it was a terrible and preventable tragedy, but the family will never accept their son was responsible.
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                        • Richzilla
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                          • Sep 2004
                          • 1163

                          #117
                          Re: Tony Stewart Strikes and Kills On-Foot Driver

                          The timing of this makes it seem like a sad attempt to get maximum publicity.

                          Cheapens their stance in my opinion.

                          If I'm wrong why this week does this come out.

                          This county is going down the drain.
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                          • nc0ffey
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                            • Jul 2002
                            • 6223

                            #118
                            Re: Tony Stewart Strikes and Kills On-Foot Driver

                            Yea I just don't see this helping the family gain closure, looks like they only want to gain money.

                            Sucks for Stewart also as it doesn't allow for closure on his end either.

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                            • nc0ffey
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                              • Jul 2002
                              • 6223

                              #119
                              Re: Tony Stewart Strikes and Kills On-Foot Driver

                              I was listening to the radio on my way home and whoever was on (maybe Adam Schein) made a good point....

                              The guy had no wife and no kids. So any money awarded would be just for his parents.

                              Its kind of sickening to think they seem to be attempting to capitalize on his death like this.

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                              • jb12780
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                                • Oct 2008
                                • 10665

                                #120
                                Re: Tony Stewart Strikes and Kills On-Foot Driver

                                I'm sure it's a coincidence that this is announced when they're racing at Watkins Glen.

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