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    yellow
    • Sep 2002
    • 66469

    #901
    Re: Xbox 720

    Isn't this similar to Play tv just internal?

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    • mgoblue
      Go Wings!
      • Jul 2002
      • 25477

      #902
      Re: Xbox 720

      Originally posted by ubernoob
      Not at all. It's literally everything I don't want in a video game system.

      I'm glad people will get use out of it, but if this is the future of console gaming I am going to bow out.
      I think you'll be bowing out. PS4 will be adding a bunch to their dash as well.
      The era of a console JUST being used to play games is pretty much over.

      IMO a console is too much money to just play games at this point (and they realize it as well)

      I'm not saying that I want them "always on" with regards to internet, because I don't. I just think all the added features make a system a better option.

      There's PC gaming for you, but then again a PC does all these extra things so may not be a good option either.

      I think you can just ignore all the added stuff though and just play a game, can't you? That's why I don't see the hate. I understand the "always on internet" hate though.
      Last edited by mgoblue; 04-10-2013, 02:37 PM.
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      • mestevo
        Gooney Goo Goo
        • Apr 2010
        • 19556

        #903
        Basically that rumor is everything I've said I was hoping it would be over the last few months. Love it.

        You can plug in a GoogleTV without using the HDMI pass through, just don't get to use all of the features naturally. Will be interesting to see what your less-integrated options are if this holds up.

        Could easily see this functionality being the source of all of the always-connected FUD though.

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        • ubernoob
          ****
          • Jul 2004
          • 15522

          #904
          The ps4 is adding one thing that I've seen that interests me (the live stream button.)

          Aside from that, everything else is optional. It won't have to be always on, and I won't have a cruddy webcam accessory that I have absolutely 0 use for be required.

          Again, I'm all for options. Its when you start making things required that I take issues with it.
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          • mestevo
            Gooney Goo Goo
            • Apr 2010
            • 19556

            #905
            Originally posted by ubernoob
            The ps4 is adding one thing that I've seen that interests me (the live stream button.)

            Aside from that, everything else is optional. It won't have to be always on, and I won't have a cruddy webcam accessory that I have absolutely 0 use for be required.

            Again, I'm all for options. Its when you start making things required that I take issues with it.
            Have they said their version of kinect is optional? The controller connects to the console instead of it?

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            • jmood88
              Sean Payton: Retribution
              • Jul 2003
              • 34639

              #906
              Re: Xbox 720

              I like how vg leaks is walking back from the always online stuff they've been detailing for months

              When the Durango (game machine) launches, it will not support backwards compatibility for 360 games out of the box. Instead, this functionality will come from the other unit that will be networked with the Durango to provide this (not unlike the DVD add-on for the original Xbox).

              The purpose of the smaller Xbox unit is to compete with Apple TV, but also provides XBLA and 360 game support which will give it an edge over Apple TV. The rumors of “always online required” comes from the smaller Xbox unit which may not have a disc drive and like Apple TV it would require a network connection and internet to provide any real functionality. It may be possible they will design both consoles to be stackable.

              Durango itself will also always be online like any other device (correct with rumors), but it will not be a requirement to play local content and it will not prevent playing used games.
              So basically, they were completely wrong but they want to say that it will "technically" be always online since it has the capability of being online all the time.
              Originally posted by Blzer
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              • ubernoob
                ****
                • Jul 2004
                • 15522

                #907
                Originally posted by mestevo
                Have they said their version of kinect is optional? The controller connects to the console instead of it?

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                Their version of kinect isn't a webcam, its more along the lines of a Wii/psmove I thought.

                Now if it is a webcam, and always has to be on I'm not getting a ps4 either. I don't need a camera for my console, just like I don't need an extra motion sensor for what my physical body does while I game.

                Those are useless to me. Make everything but the video games optional and it'd be back to a will purchase for me. For all companies.
                Last edited by ubernoob; 04-10-2013, 03:27 PM.
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                • mestevo
                  Gooney Goo Goo
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 19556

                  #908
                  Originally posted by ubernoob
                  Their version of kinect isn't a webcam, its more along the lines of a Wii/psmove I thought.

                  Now if it is a webcam, and always has to be on I'm not getting a ps4 either. I don't need a camera for my console, just like I don't need an extra motion sensor for what my physical body does while I game.

                  Those are useless to me. Make everything but the video games optional and it'd be back to a will purchase for me. For all companies.
                  I'm pretty sure their new PS Eye is nearly a direct copy of Kinect, just no motion (skeletal) tracking. Not sure if it is required (my preference, so voice control capabilities are more viable) or not though.

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                  • seasprite
                    Phenom
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 8984

                    #909
                    Re: Xbox 720

                    Confusing news is confusing






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                    • mestevo
                      Gooney Goo Goo
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 19556

                      #910
                      Re: Xbox 720

                      Originally posted by 23
                      Isn't this similar to Play tv just internal?
                      I guess maybe not everyone is understanding the GoogleTV comparisons, here's a fairly poor video that kinda shows you what people mean by a UI overlay and what you can do with an HDMI passthrough.

                      <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/lqDMvYpoQQg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

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                      • 23
                        yellow
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 66469

                        #911
                        Re: Xbox 720

                        That's not even what I was saying bruh...

                        Point is didn't Sony try to pimp a similar feature (the tv feature) with the PS3... the answer is yes.

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                        • DaveDQ
                          13
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 7664

                          #912
                          Re: Xbox 720

                          I think a good comparison for Kinect and it now being internal to the Xbox is web cameras and laptops. For some time you would have to plug into your USB port your web cam and set it up for use. Now most consumer laptops have the web camera internal as default.

                          That does not mean the camera is always on, looking through your closets and rearranging your furniture while you sleep. It just means it is now more efficient and I'm sure there will be an option to disable it.
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                          • mestevo
                            Gooney Goo Goo
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 19556

                            #913
                            Re: Xbox 720

                            Originally posted by 23
                            That's not even what I was saying bruh...

                            Point is didn't Sony try to pimp a similar feature (the tv feature) with the PS3... the answer is yes.
                            The answer is no. PlayTV was for recording OTA signals and in EU only because their OTA is much more standard than the US... that's why I posted the video because that's not a similar product at all.

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                            • 23
                              yellow
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 66469

                              #914
                              Re: Xbox 720

                              nevermind man... I think you're missing something and Im not here to argue about this here

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                              • mestevo
                                Gooney Goo Goo
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 19556

                                #915
                                Re: Xbox 720

                                I don't see what's unclear or how we're arguing, but OK. You're the one asking the questions. Or am I hard to understand because my replies aren't as articulate as:

                                Originally posted by 23
                                Dey jus rumors dawg

                                Da innanets linch mobs alwayz be trynna wine an start e-riyots

                                Jus wait til we git sum info from the horsez mouf tho.

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