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  • mgoblue
    Go Wings!
    • Jul 2002
    • 25477

    #1711
    Re: Xbox One

    Originally posted by kingkilla56
    How is Sony's more gamer centric? Microsoft's box can still play games.
    This is what I don't get...PS4 did not impress me at all...it's not like they offer anything specific to gamers/gaming that Xbox doesn't also give you.

    I get that you may not want the entertainment stuff. I just don't see why the PS4 is that much better of an option for you?
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    • ubernoob
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      • Jul 2004
      • 15522

      #1712
      Re: Xbox One

      Originally posted by jmood88
      Who told you that you have to wave around or yell to play games?
      The point is, the Kinect brings nothing to those that focus on the games.

      Yes, it has it's usefulness in other things (voice commands for TV and such) but XBox did nothing to show that they want to be a leader in gaming.

      They want to be a leader in the living room, but that's not what I'm interested in as a gamer. That is the only position I hold in this, is that XBox is gearing themselves towards the Farmville audiences.

      Kinect being a necessity? Horrible.
      Integration with Windows 8? What a ****ty operating system, and they know it - that's why they are backtracking with it.
      All the other rumors that have hurt their stock? Yet to be seen.

      Anyone can buy/build a computer that can do everything the box can (except for MS games) for cheaper.

      If they came out and stated that they wanted their box to be a hub of entertainment while providing some gaming, that would be one thing. They are speaking out of both sides of their mouth though - you can't make things gamers don't care about a necessity and the focus of the system and then say "games are the focus." One of the two statements is a lie.

      CLEARLY, gaming isn't the focus with this box otherwise all these features wouldn't be hyped to the moon.

      EDIT:

      The "XBox One" and PS4 have pretty much the same hardware. It equates out to being a middle of the road gaming PC. The consoles have to define themselves somehow.

      Microsoft clearly went the entertainment hub road, Sony better focus on the games or they will fail as a console as well.
      Last edited by ubernoob; 05-21-2013, 05:28 PM.
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      • bigeastbumrush
        My Momma's Son
        • Feb 2003
        • 19245

        #1713
        Re: Xbox One

        @darrenrovell: Source confirms Microsoft deal with the NFL is worth $400M over 5 years.

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        • cubsfan203
          All Star
          • Jun 2004
          • 6689

          #1714
          Re: Xbox One

          I understand that some people, including myself, think the Kinect is worthless....but you have to keep in mind the best selling Xbox 360 game of all time is Kinect Adventures. In fact it's sold twice as many copies as the next highest game on the list.

          So you have to understand, while FPS and sports gamers might not care about it, there is still a huge market for it that Microsoft is clearly wanting to reach.
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          • PAPERNUT
            Gaming Fool.
            • May 2003
            • 1690

            #1715
            Re: Xbox One

            MS did well today, but E3 will be the time to decide based on what all both manufacturers are keeping under wraps. My main questions that I hope to have answered at E3:

            Privacy concerns with Connect.
            Tv use with DirecTV and other services.
            How the box will work with receivers and other gear.
            How much Live will cost in the future.
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            • zizoux
              Rookie
              • Mar 2007
              • 464

              #1716
              Re: Xbox One

              Apparently PS4 is at least 20% more powerful than XBOX ONE.

              XBOX ONE has custom HD 7790 and PS4 has custom Radeon HD 7870


              Also PS4 has 8gb DDR5 Ram, X ONE has 8GB DDR3

              More exclusives+Naughty Dog = Day 1 ps4 purchase

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              • DocHolliday
                Farewell and 'ado
                • Oct 2002
                • 4697

                #1717
                Re: Xbox One

                Originally posted by cubsfan203
                It can be a good indicator of public opinion. Up until the consoles are released and for a while after it's going to be a console war with each company trying to have theirs be the best selling one. When your stock jumps 9% after your competitor's reveal, it's a pretty good indication that the scales have tipped in your favor.
                I 100% disagree with this statement.

                Stock fluctuate on all sorts of news and factors, saying that this proves that Sony has won anything is extremely far reaching.
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                • mgoblue
                  Go Wings!
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 25477

                  #1718
                  Re: Xbox One

                  Originally posted by ubernoob
                  The point is, the Kinect brings nothing to those that focus on the games.

                  Yes, it has it's usefulness in other things (voice commands for TV and such) but XBox did nothing to show that they want to be a leader in gaming.

                  They want to be a leader in the living room, but that's not what I'm interested in as a gamer. That is the only position I hold in this, is that XBox is gearing themselves towards the Farmville audiences.

                  Kinect being a necessity? Horrible.
                  Integration with Windows 8? What a ****ty operating system, and they know it - that's why they are backtracking with it.
                  All the other rumors that have hurt their stock? Yet to be seen.

                  Anyone can buy/build a computer that can do everything the box can (except for MS games) for cheaper.

                  If they came out and stated that they wanted their box to be a hub of entertainment while providing some gaming, that would be one thing. They are speaking out of both sides of their mouth though - you can't make things gamers don't care about a necessity and the focus of the system and then say "games are the focus." One of the two statements is a lie.

                  CLEARLY, gaming isn't the focus with this box otherwise all these features wouldn't be hyped to the moon.

                  EDIT:

                  The "XBox One" and PS4 have pretty much the same hardware. It equates out to being a middle of the road gaming PC. The consoles have to define themselves somehow.

                  Microsoft clearly went the entertainment hub road, Sony better focus on the games or they will fail as a console as well.
                  How is it possible for Sony to "focus on the games" more than MS? They'll get 98% of the same games, and each system will have their own exclusives.

                  What do you think Sony will do that will be more games focused, but be something that MS does not provide as well? I guess that's where I'm disconnected from your ideas. This Xbox will do everything the PS4 will do AND also do entertainment stuff. What can PS4 do that Xbox isn't? How does that impact the quality of games?
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                  • ubernoob
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                    • Jul 2004
                    • 15522

                    #1719
                    Re: Xbox One

                    Originally posted by DocHolliday
                    I 100% disagree with this statement.

                    Stock fluctuate on all sorts of news and factors, saying that this proves that Sony has won anything is extremely far reaching.
                    Yeah, nobody should be looking too far into the stock prices...

                    But the jump of almost 10% and Microsoft's subsequent drop coinciding exactly with the reveal should show that at the very most MS was underwhelming today.

                    I understand both sides have their fanboys, and of course MS ones were happy with today while Sony's just laughed at them - but can't read too far into this, aside from the fact that MS was underwhelming.
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                    • cubsfan203
                      All Star
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 6689

                      #1720
                      Re: Xbox One

                      Originally posted by DocHolliday
                      I 100% disagree with this statement.

                      Stock fluctuate on all sorts of news and factors, saying that this proves that Sony has won anything is extremely far reaching.
                      I didn't say they "won" anything. I said that for the time being Sony has the upper hand. The timing proves that it had something to do with it. Your stock just doesn't go from an average daily volume of 3 million and then trade 23 million shares after that kind of news for nothing.



                      Like I said before, neither company's business relies much on their gaming consoles. So other than this random jump, I wouldn't use their price for an indicator of what's going to outsell the other.
                      Last edited by cubsfan203; 05-21-2013, 05:54 PM.
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                      • ubernoob
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                        • Jul 2004
                        • 15522

                        #1721
                        Re: Xbox One

                        Originally posted by mgoblue
                        How is it possible for Sony to "focus on the games" more than MS? They'll get 98% of the same games, and each system will have their own exclusives.

                        What do you think Sony will do that will be more games focused, but be something that MS does not provide as well? I guess that's where I'm disconnected from your ideas. This Xbox will do everything the PS4 will do AND also do entertainment stuff. What can PS4 do that Xbox isn't? How does that impact the quality of games?
                        The quality of exclusive titles, the deals given to gamers, the requirements to play games and in general making sure they have the highest quality games available.

                        The PS3 already blew the XBox360 out of the water in terms of console exclusives.
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                        • Phobia
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 11623

                          #1722
                          Re: Xbox One

                          My impressions
                          • I liked the reveal
                          • I liked the TV focus and other useful features it brings
                          • I loved the fantasy inclusions
                          • I don't have a use for skype
                          • I hate the look of it, just a big blocky black piece
                          • Hate how huge it is
                          • can't stand how the kinect is required
                          • I'm a fan of killing used games if digital sale of games on the xbox store can match steam sales and pricing. Developers still come out on top from cost reduction from no disks, no cases, no inserts, and no shipping costs.
                          • All EA reveal was a waste of time
                          • COD Ghost looked great in my opinion
                          • love the new controller look


                          So all in all I enjoyed what is being brought to the table. What I disliked is some of their decisions. 1) Who thought the look of this was a good idea and 2) Why am I forced to use the kinect.

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                          • Valdarez
                            All Star
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 5075

                            #1723
                            Re: Xbox One

                            Originally posted by Picci
                            Just wondering about this voice recognition. Can more than one profile be active? Say the wife and I are sitting in the living room....I say, "I want to watch the ballgame", she says "home shopping network"....and the banter continues back and forth between the two of us. This could get ugly.
                            No telling at this point. I know with Kinect active, even though I never say 'Xbox', if I'm watching TV and forget and leave it on, I'll get treated to a random page and any plethora of actions as Kinect apparently picks up on the TV conversation and attempts to do things for it.
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                            • The_Wise_One
                              Why Not Us?
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 2633

                              #1724
                              Xbox is most certainly going to win E3. All PS4 can do is show the hardware. Xbox has a TON of new games to show while PS4 already did a bunch.
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                              • Valdarez
                                All Star
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 5075

                                #1725
                                Re: Xbox One

                                Originally posted by cubsfan203
                                I understand that some people, including myself, think the Kinect is worthless....but you have to keep in mind the best selling Xbox 360 game of all time is Kinect Adventures. In fact it's sold twice as many copies as the next highest game on the list.

                                So you have to understand, while FPS and sports gamers might not care about it, there is still a huge market for it that Microsoft is clearly wanting to reach.
                                Was it sold bundled with a Kinect? If so the point isn't quite as strong.
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