Xbox One

[Boltman]

Re: Xbox One

The kinect adds zero to the console, in terms of features. Everything you can do with the Kinect in terms of switching screens, controlling games and even turning the system on can already be done without the Kinect.

Two players swapping controllers mid gaming and the console recognizing the switching and position of the players then making adjustments as well as screen adjustments?

I thought that was a pretty cool demonstration.

[AirLobo23]

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Two players swapping controllers mid gaming and the console recognizing the switching and position of the players then making adjustments as well as screen adjustments?

I thought that was a pretty cool demonstration.

Yes, but these features haven't been apart of console gaming since its inception 25 year ago, so it has no place in todays day and age either.

They need to make wired controllers standard again. The wireless tech adds nothing. Just make the cord longer.

[EnigmaNemesis]

Who plays on split screen?

Since you know, it is olden days gaming.

[ghettogeeksta]

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Now that they did away with DRM they need to do something to give people a reason to buy digital.

[IlliniM1ke]

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Two players swapping controllers mid gaming and the console recognizing the switching and position of the players then making adjustments as well as screen adjustments?

I thought that was a pretty cool demonstration.

It's a neat feature but I can't think of any time I've ever been playing a game with a friend where I've gotten up come back and we changed controllers.

Awesome technology (that it can identify you like that) but how often will something like that be used unless you're doing it just because you can now?

[DonkeyJote]

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I understand why Microsoft wanted DRM. And I don't think it's "unethical" by any means. But as soon as they said they were doing it, and Sony wasn't, it wasn't a real option. They would've gotten slaughtered this generation.

What Microsoft should do, is a.) lower the price of a digital download. Offer games at $50 on Live instead $60 for a physical copy, people will gravitate towards that, and they can't resell a digital game on eBay. And b.) create an online store where people can trade their games back to Microsoft. That way, the publishers can still get the money from the used game sales. There are ways to achieve their goals without the restrictions they were placing. And then, with all of that in place, eventually they can add the sharing, etc., and the market will move to where Microsoft wanted them on their own. You can't go from A to Z while skipping B through Y. That just never works.

[Boltman]

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It's a neat feature but I can't think of any time I've ever been playing a game with a friend where I've gotten up come back and we changed controllers.

Awesome technology (that it can identify you like that) but how often will something like that be used unless you're doing it just because you can now?

That isn't the point, did you see the post I quoted before I posted?

You need to take it in context, he made a statement and I appropriately responded. But I get what you're saying either way.

[ubernoob]

I understand why Microsoft wanted DRM. And I don't think it's "unethical" by any means. But as soon as they said they were doing it, and Sony wasn't, it wasn't a real option. They would've gotten slaughtered this generation.

What Microsoft should do, is a.) lower the price of a digital download. Offer games at $50 on Live instead $60 for a physical copy, people will gravitate towards that, and they can't resell a digital game on eBay. And b.) create an online store where people can trade their games back to Microsoft. That way, the publishers can still get the money from the used game sales. There are ways to achieve their goals without the restrictions they were placing. And then, with all of that in place, eventually they can add the sharing, etc., and the market will move to where Microsoft wanted them on their own. You can't go from A to Z while skipping B through Y. That just never works.

They can't lower the price on digital games because they are (along with all game companies) in bed with big retail.

Even if they go 100% digital, games will not get cheaper because the budgets on games just keep going up and up for AAA games. I'm honestly surprised (and pleased) that game prices are staying the same this gen.

[Boltman]

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They can't lower the price on digital games because they are (along with all game companies) in bed with big retail.

Even if they go 100% digital, games will not get cheaper because the budgets on games just keep going up and up for AAA games. I'm honestly surprised (and pleased) that game prices are staying the same this gen.

I agree wholeheartedly.

[bigfnjoe96]

Forget the Kinect. For me the WI-FI Direct & HDMI In/Out is well worth the extra 100.



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[Trapper700]

Re: Xbox One

If this is to be believed, it could explain why Microsoft wasn't loudly touting the benefits of Family Sharing.

"First is family sharing, this feature is near and dear to me and I truly felt it would have helped the industry grow and make both gamers and developers happy. The premise is simple and elegant, when you buy your games for Xbox One, you can set any of them to be part of your shared library. Anyone who you deem to be family had access to these games regardless of where they are in the world. There was never any catch to that, they didn't have to share the same billing address or physical address it could be anyone. When your family member accesses any of your games, they're placed into a special demo mode. This demo mode in most cases would be the full game with a 15-45 minute timer and in some cases an hour. This allowed the person to play the game, get familiar with it then make a purchase if they wanted to. When the time limit was up they would automatically be prompted to the Marketplace so that they may order it if liked the game."

Not exactly revolutionary when PS+ has been doing the same thing for quite a while now.

Just wanted to provide a follow up. This was confirmed to be legit. Family Sharing for the Xbone was the same as PS3's one hour game demos and was further restricted to games that your family already owned.

[p_rushing]

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Just wanted to provide a follow up. This was confirmed to be legit. Family Sharing for the Xbone was the same as PS3's one hour game demos and was further restricted to games that your family already owned.

No wonder there was no info about it. If MS released anything about it at E3, then there would have been no good things about Xbone coming out of E3.

[mestevo]

Stop acting like people that don't like the Kinect are anti technology. I've seen that in here multiple times lately.

Am I a gamer only? My PS3 gets used for Crunchyroll at least 10x more than games. The last time my PS3 has been used for a game is BioShock Infinite when I got it and beat it before release, whenever that was. Do I fit into your "gamer only" box?

The kinect adds zero to the console, in terms of features. Everything you can do with the Kinect in terms of switching screens, controlling games and even turning the system on can already be done without the Kinect.

I can push a power button when I walk into my room just as fast as I can say XBox on. I can hit "A" faster than I can say "XBox play next episode." I can change channels on my remotes faster than I can say "Xbox channel 210".

You catch my drift? MS has offered nothing new with the Kinect that makes me feel like having one in my life would be beneficial in the least. Everything the Kinect can do (aside from silly little gimmicks in games) can already be done with the push of a button or two.

Wrong. Id be watching the next episode while youre waiting for your controller to turn back on.

Not to mention I wouldn't even have to go pick it up off the charger to begin with. You make valid points but as usual try to hard to slam dunk them home. If you actually ever used a Kinect in this way you'd understand.

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[Boltman]

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No wonder there was no info about it. If MS released anything about it at E3, then there would have been no good things about Xbone coming out of E3.

There were definitely good things to come out about it, how it's interpreted is subjective.

I guess that's just how this XBox One discussion thread is destined to go. Pro, Con, Pro, con, reasons for, reasons against, people saying they aren't buying it, people saying they are buying it.

I can dig it.

[ubernoob]

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Wrong. Id be watching the next episode while youre waiting for your controller to turn back on.

Not to mention I wouldn't even have to go pick it up off the charger to begin with. You make valid points but as usual try to hard to slam dunk them home. If you actually ever used a Kinect in this way you'd understand.

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My controller doesn't turn off while watching netflix, but then again I used the PS3 way more than I used the 360. Also, never had rechargeable battery packs for my 360 controllers and they (controllers and TV/sound bar remotes) always sat on the end tables within arms reach so I don't have to get up.

Also, doesn't Netflix on the 360 auto-play the next episode? That's literally the only thing the PS3 Netflix app does that I wish my TV did (Hulu+ on the TV does).

I'm not saying these features are bad or that "streamlining" them isn't a cool option to have but... I'm still staying that the Kinect adds nothing new that makes it intriguing to people those features mean nothing to. TVs can Skype if you want them to, they have the same mainstream media apps (Crunchyroll is the only one I use that I'm unable to get on my TV as of now).

There's nothing that sticks out that says "This is why we think you NEED to own a Kinect." No... "Killer App", if you will. I hate that term, but it is probably the best way to explain myself.

If MS goal is to sell the bundle for $499 and get a Kinect into every home that owns an XBone, I fail to see how making it optional hurts anything.