Xbox One

[Scott]

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I'm with smallville in a way regarding DVD's/Blu Ray's. I don't think that Blu Ray's are overrated but I do think that they're overpriced. I have watched a few Blu Ray's and honestly, I don't notice any difference whatsoever. I'm not really a movie buff but when I do buy a movie, it's to keep and it's always the DVD version. A few extra visuals doesn't mean anything to me (especially if the movie sucks) and I never bother with the extra features and whatnot so I would much rather spend $10 on a DVD instead of $35+ on a Blu Ray.

If I rent a movie via PSN or for last gen, Xbox 360, I always rent the 480P SD version simply because I used to rent the HD version but I realized that there's minimal to no difference, at least to me anyway so I figure, why not save the extra few bucks and rent another movie if I want to. Also, just in case there's a problem with Optimum or it's being heavily used, I know that with SD streaming, I should have no issues and no buffering which to be perfectly honest, is what I care about the most.

Games wise, pretty sure that Scorpio will be the first console that will allow you to play games in 4K but at the same time, it also depends on the developer/publisher as they may not even target that. For the publishers to put money into 4K, they would have to be extremely confident that there's a substantial user install base of 4K TV's that gamers play games on. Right now, it's still minimal.

Try watching a 480p movie on a 110" screen, then watch the same one in 1080p. You'll see more than a slight difference.

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[DieHardYankee26]

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You're saying you can't tell the difference between a Blu-ray and a DVD on an HD screen? I'm seriously confused by that, the difference is massive. It's not even a stare deeply at the depth of the blacks thing, it's just in your face much clearer.

[joet6683]

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Don't notice a difference between blu ray and dvd? Yet some of these same people prefer PS4 over XBO because the games look better...I will never understand

[ExtremeGamer]

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I'm with smallville in a way regarding DVD's/Blu Ray's. I don't think that Blu Ray's are overrated but I do think that they're overpriced. I have watched a few Blu Ray's and honestly, I don't notice any difference whatsoever. I'm not really a movie buff but when I do buy a movie, it's to keep and it's always the DVD version. A few extra visuals doesn't mean anything to me (especially if the movie sucks) and I never bother with the extra features and whatnot so I would much rather spend $10 on a DVD instead of $35+ on a Blu Ray.

If I rent a movie via PSN or for last gen, Xbox 360, I always rent the 480P SD version simply because I used to rent the HD version but I realized that there's minimal to no difference, at least to me anyway so I figure, why not save the extra few bucks and rent another movie if I want to. Also, just in case there's a problem with Optimum or it's being heavily used, I know that with SD streaming, I should have no issues and no buffering which to be perfectly honest, is what I care about the most.

Games wise, pretty sure that Scorpio will be the first console that will allow you to play games in 4K but at the same time, it also depends on the developer/publisher as they may not even target that. For the publishers to put money into 4K, they would have to be extremely confident that there's a substantial user install base of 4K TV's that gamers play games on. Right now, it's still minimal.

So you're saying you can't notice the difference in an SD image and a HD image???

SDTV is 480i

DVD is 480P

HDTV is 720P/1080i

Blu-ray is 1080P

But they all look like a minimal improvement to your eyes???


EDIT - and where are you shopping that Blu-ray's are $35+ a piece?!

[daniel77733]

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All of it does depend on the screen size which I should have mentioned. My mistake. I have a 32" Samsung 1080P HDTV. My friend always tells me that you need at least a 40" to really start noticing the differences and I believe him because he's a tech guy. He's into all the latest stuff and whatnot. I'm not. Anyway, I watch regular DVD movies and they still look good to me. I have watched 480P SD movies via streaming and they look exactly the same to me as the DVD's. Honestly, I don't notice any difference.

The last Blu Ray I watched was the first season of True Detective but unless the movie/show has a lot of visual effects, you'll barely notice any of it. Add in your screen size and the difference varies.

The last DVD I bought was Mad Max Fury Road and it looks good on my TV. Blu Ray enhances what's already there but you also have the right setup to take advantage of it all. I own 18 DVD movies and no Blu Ray's.

What else can I say? I just don't see the difference and it being huge enough to justify the extra cost of buying a Blu Ray compared to a DVD. And again, im not a movie person. Way more casual with movies than I am with TV series. That probably also has something to do with it.

[daniel77733]

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So you're saying you can't notice the difference in an SD image and a HD image???

SDTV is 480i

DVD is 480P

HDTV is 720P/1080i

Blu-ray is 1080P

But they all look like a minimal improvement to your eyes???


EDIT - and where are you shopping that Blu-ray's are $35+ a piece?!

I would probably have to watch a movie with a lot of explosions and special effects like a Terminator 2 or something to really notice the difference. I know that the Blu Ray's are more sharper, clear and crisper but for me personally, im extremely casual in regards to movies so as long as it looks good and I can watch and enjoy it, that's all I care about.

A lot of Blu Rays on release day are around the $35 mark. Maybe $35 is too much but I always see Blu Rays at least double the price of the DVD version. Pretty sure Mad Max was at least $30 or $35 on release day for Blu Ray. Best Buy in regards to the store.

[DickDalewood]

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I don't care if it's a 5" screen. The difference between a bluray and a DVD couldn't be more apparent.

If you want to nitpick the difference between say, 720p and 1080p on a smaller screen, sure, I could MAYBE buy that. But to not be able to tell the difference between a standard and high definition image? Come on.

Also, most blurays on release day are $17.99 to $22.99 at literally every single brick and mortar or online retailer. They are nowhere near $35.

[CaptainZombie]

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All of it does depend on the screen size which I should have mentioned. My mistake. I have a 32" Samsung 1080P HDTV. My friend always tells me that you need at least a 40" to really start noticing the differences and I believe him because he's a tech guy. He's into all the latest stuff and whatnot. I'm not. Anyway, I watch regular DVD movies and they still look good to me. I have watched 480P SD movies via streaming and they look exactly the same to me as the DVD's. Honestly, I don't notice any difference.

The last Blu Ray I watched was the first season of True Detective but unless the movie/show has a lot of visual effects, you'll barely notice any of it. Add in your screen size and the difference varies.

The last DVD I bought was Mad Max Fury Road and it looks good on my TV. Blu Ray enhances what's already there but you also have the right setup to take advantage of it all. I own 18 DVD movies and no Blu Ray's.

What else can I say? I just don't see the difference and it being huge enough to justify the extra cost of buying a Blu Ray compared to a DVD. And again, im not a movie person. Way more casual with movies than I am with TV series. That probably also has something to do with it.

TBH, after all of the stupid things going on here the last few days with No Man's Sky..............and now I read this, WTH has happened to OS? There is a huge difference between DVD at 480p/480i and lower vs. a Blu-ray at 1080p with uncompressed video and audio. You don't need a 40" or larger TV to notice the difference.

Uhm, you don't need visual effects to notice the difference between a Blu-ray and DVD. Just watch a regular comedy TV show on an SD DVD vs. BD Blu-ray and you will notice all kinds of details, etc.

[mgoblue]

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He's not comparing SD to HD though...isn't he comparing upscaled DVD vs. Blu-ray? There's a difference there but not as bad as SD to HD

[daniel77733]

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Don't notice a difference between blu ray and dvd? Yet some of these same people prefer PS4 over XBO because the games look better...I will never understand

Honestly, I don't notice a difference between DVD's and Blu Rays. I did watch Avatar on Blu Ray years ago (same HDTV) with my girlfriend and yeah, it looked great but if I watched on DVD, I doubt that my reaction would be any different.

Games wise though is different for me. I'm a gamer first and foremost. Minimal difference between PS4/Xbox One but if I was to play AC IV: Black Flag on PS3/Xbox 360 (which I did on both) and then play on PS4 (again, I did), I'll notice the differences. Maybe not a good example being cross gen but with games between last gen and this gen, I'll definitely see the difference.

Of course, this gen, I have completed 30 games where as I probably watched maybe 10 movies if that over the same time period of about the last three years. When you're not fully into something, you tend to just go with the flow and won't notice many differences.

For me, it's mainly the simple fact that im not into movies as much as most people are and as long as I can clearly see the movie, it's hopefully good and I enjoy it, that's truly all I care about.

[Phobia]

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I don't care if it's a 5" screen. The difference between a bluray and a DVD couldn't be more apparent.

If you want to nitpick the difference between say, 720p and 1080p on a smaller screen, sure, I could MAYBE buy that. But to not be able to tell the difference between a standard and high definition image? Come on.

Also, most blurays on release day are $17.99 to $22.99 at literally every single brick and mortar or online retailer. They are nowhere near $35.

I wouldn't even go down to 720, 1080p vs 4k I can see a argument of resolution compared to screen size but anything lower is a pointless argument.

[daniel77733]

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What can I say? I literally have this same argument with my friend every week. My vision is almost 20/20 after laser surgery years ago. If I was to watch a Blu Ray of Mad Max, I can guarantee that I wouldn't all of a sudden go, OMG, this is so far superior and I have to switch. Just not going to happen.

[NYGiants4Natic]

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What can I say? I literally have this same argument with my friend every week. My vision is almost 20/20 after laser surgery years ago. If I was to watch a Blu Ray of Mad Max, I can guarantee that I wouldn't all of a sudden go, OMG, this is so far superior and I have to switch. Just not going to happen.

Go Watch Narcos on Netflix and then watch save by the bell on Netflix and tell me there is no difference.

[DickDalewood]

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I'd still love to know what retailer has suckered you into paying $35+ for new releases on bluray.

Go to a Best Buy on any given Tuesday and you'll find that week's new releases priced at an average of $19.99, and half the time that includes the DVD.

[Phobia]

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For me graphic fidelity has hit a wall from a resolution perspective. It still seems to be the gold standard leaned on when talking about "image quality", but even 1080p is plenty enough. 4k is more a luxury and will remain the cap, as far as I see it. Now from here on out, improvements will come from textures, lighting & shader technologies, stabilizing frames rates with monitors & TV's(G & V sync) better, and various forms of tricks in bringing the image closer to life. I don't feel that will come from more pixels. Its a fun term but outside of 4k, where else is there to really go resolution wise?