PlayStation 4 Discussion

[SinisterAlex]

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I saw this comment from a user on Ars Technica regarding the EA Access program:

Since EA games are incremental and nearly identical to the previous year's version, they are prime sales on the used game market. They entice people to subscribe for $5, but only give them access to the current/old version of a game. They offer a 10% discount on the new version, but it's digital only, so you can't sell it when you're done playing it. And then they rub salt in your wounds a year later by streaming the game you bought for $54 for free. And best of all, it cuts down their used game sales. Seems like the perfect program for EA.

The program seems like just another way to sucker money out of people while giving them the impression of providing value. However, the choice to subscribe to this service or not should be left up to the gamer, not Sony. That being said, no one should subscribe to this service.

[ERA]

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I saw this comment from a user on Ars Technica regarding the EA Access program:

Very solid points that guy made. Seems like something EA would do.

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[Chrisksaint]

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Seems like Sony is greedy and won't let the gamer decide for themselves....be real if MS did what Sony is doing everyone would be killing them on here

I feel like we're letting hyperbole get the best of us here and complaining to complain. Sony made their decision as a company and said nah. I mean I wouldn't get the EA pass and I'm not getting PS Now but it makes zero sense for them to do it if Sony is trying to push their own service soon.

I mean I guess it's a little greedy if we're all trying to be fair all of a sudden, but from a business standpoint I fully understand and support it.

[mestevo]

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I feel like we're letting hyperbole get the best of us here and complaining to complain. Sony made their decision as a company and said nah. I mean I wouldn't get the EA pass and I'm not getting PS Now but it makes zero sense for them to do it if Sony is trying to push their own service soon.

I mean I guess it's a little greedy if we're all trying to be fair all of a sudden, but from a business standpoint I fully understand and support it.

I think this would be a great stance and there would be half as many posts about it if Sony had remained silent on the issue.

[ExtremeGamer]

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I saw this comment from a user on Ars Technica regarding the EA Access program:

I agree with that statement completely. I felt the EA Access was not a good value from the start and that's after railing on it for about an hour did I even realize it was XB1 only. I think it sets a bad precedent for the future. What if 2K, Deep Silver, Activision, Ubi all decide "hey, we're going to do this too", all of a sudden we have five different $30 a year programs on top of the already exisiting yearly fees.

Not to mention, the only real deal here is the 10% off the new game, it's not like Season Ticket where you go the game 3 days early with unlimited play, some games like Dragon Age, are available 5 days early but with only a 2 hour play window. Not getting very deep into the game in 2 hours and EA is making a killing off their games hopefully vanishing from the Gamestop black market.

I really only buy Madden on a yearly basis from EA, so for me, it's not even close to being a good deal. If others see the value in it, by all means, I just never did from the start.

But with all that said, Sony should have never spoken for the gamer. Their statements treated us like we're 10 year old morons who can't think for ourselves. It was insulting.

[ODogg]

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You better read the fine print Odogg.....You have x amount of hours to buy it.

Maybe I'm getting to old for this. I mean it's not about Sony vs Microsoft here. It's about EA and what they're trying to do. PS+ and XBox Live have been giving us great free deals on a monthly basis. For the month of July, we've been playing an EA game, Dead Space 3 on the PS3 for free. This choice of paying $30 a year or $5 a month to play this game or any other EA game in the future just leaves a bad taste. What if then UbiSoft? 2K? Bungie? Insomoniac? etc?

Well, in other news tomorrow is a big day for us with PSNow as we all get the beta. The prices are ridiculous and I won't pay it, well maybe I'll play a free game to test and give them feedback. Like everyone says, we have choices..Oh, at the end they did mention a possible subscription maybe in the works.


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I subscribed to the EA early release program so I'm familiar with how it works..

[mgoblue]

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I agree with that statement completely. I felt the EA Access was not a good value from the start and that's after railing on it for about an hour did I even realize it was XB1 only. I think it sets a bad precedent for the future. What if 2K, Deep Silver, Activision, Ubi all decide "hey, we're going to do this too", all of a sudden we have five different $30 a year programs on top of the already exisiting yearly fees.

Not to mention, the only real deal here is the 10% off the new game, it's not like Season Ticket where you go the game 3 days early with unlimited play, some games like Dragon Age, are available 5 days early but with only a 2 hour play window. Not getting very deep into the game in 2 hours and EA is making a killing off their games hopefully vanishing from the Gamestop black market.

I really only buy Madden on a yearly basis from EA, so for me, it's not even close to being a good deal. If others see the value in it, by all means, I just never did from the start.

But with all that said, Sony should have never spoken for the gamer. Their statements treated us like we're 10 year old morons who can't think for ourselves. It was insulting.

I'd consider it when NHL is on it with other games....Madden and BF4 are still over 20 bucks so it's not like it's that horrible price wise. I do get the slippery slope concept. I get the impression more that Sony wants control in price gouging the user on PS Now....EA Access seems way cheaper than the ps now prices i've read.

[ubernoob]

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I subscribed to the EA early release program so I'm familiar with how it works..

It's not even near being the same thing as season pass.

It's only to play the full game (aside from UT modes perhaps) for a few hours before it locks you out until the game releases. That's all.

I don't understand why people are thinking they'll get unlimited playtime of a full game for 5 days straight when it's been explicitly stated by both MS and EA that that's not the case.

[Artman22]

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The PS Store and PSNow gives the gamers a choice. It can do everything that EA Access can do. It can give the gamers a choice to rent the games. It can give the gamer a chance to play a demo. It can even give you a 10% discount if you ordered it through the store. So why doesn't EA give us this choice for PS gamers on the PS network?



For a few seconds put your business hat on. Sony spends millions of $ to create a server farm for the purpose to have publishers and distributors put THEIR games on this farm at THEIR prices of choosing for rent or purchase. So Sony is now going to send gamers to a different network when they have a system that's already built? It doesn't make business sense. Would you create a string of hotels only to send them to another?



Hey, Sony is no angel in the business community. But I'll trust them more than I would trust EA. EA can give us everything in PSNow and in the PSStore because guess what? It's already equipped to do so. EA apparently has a different agenda.

That's the problem right there. We can't think business because I'm a consumer and ALL I care about is what works for ME and my pockets not these companies. They need to do what's right for the gamers and EA access and PSnow aren't the same. PSnow is over priced for terrible old games. A one time $30 fee for the entire year isn't a bad thing when you already get 4 games with it and you get 5 days early access to future games not a demo. It lets you play the actual game before you buy it. Also, EA said they are going to add more games so that's also good. I don't know how having this option is a bad thing and it's priced reasonably.

[Artman22]

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I'm still going to buy my games as disks because of the 20% off at bestbuy, but this allows me to test out games before I buy them and still enjoy some of the old games.

[Picci]

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That's the problem right there. We can't think business because I'm a consumer and ALL I care about is what works for ME and my pockets not these companies. They need to do what's right for the gamers and EA access and PSnow aren't the same. PSnow is over priced for terrible old games. A one time $30 fee for the entire year isn't a bad thing when you already get 4 games with it and you get 5 days early access to future games not a demo. It lets you play the actual game before you buy it. Also, EA said they are going to add more games so that's also good. I don't know how having this option is a bad thing and it's priced reasonably.

Maybe you're not familiar with the process but those terrible prices you see on PSNow are set by the publishers. You know, people like EA. All EA has to do is put those 4 games on the PSNow with 2 click windows. One for $4.99 p/month and another for $29.99 annually. That's it! When Sony puts EA's upcoming game up on the store, PS has a process for you to preload your game. EA can give you your code to play and if you want to buy it, apply a 10% discount to it. You get what you want.

Now, lets put you in the business world. You're a Network Engineer. Better yet, a Systems Network Security Engineer. Sony comes to you and says EA wants to put their server in the Gaikai cloud. You need to manage it and store it. And if the server goes down? Won't be EA Customer Support handling the calls. If the process goes down for you on the XBone you don't want to hear a MS rep tell you it's an EA issue do you? So, does this make business sense when they have the means to manage this already?

Why do I think EA wants their own server to link with the networks? Numbers game (adding number of users to the EA list gives them more power) plus an easier process of putting their games on the server which they can manage what goes in and out quickly, and DLC which would be much easier to go through with than the Sony internal process.

Listen, I'm all for choices but I don't need to eat Head Cheese to tell you I don't like it.

[m1ke_nyc]

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Maybe you're not familiar with the process but those terrible prices you see on PSNow are set by the publishers. You know, people like EA. All EA has to do is put those 4 games on the PSNow with 2 click windows. One for $4.99 p/month and another for $29.99 annually. That's it! When Sony puts EA's upcoming game up on the store, PS has a process for you to preload your game. EA can give you your code to play and if you want to buy it, apply a 10% discount to it. You get what you want.

Now, lets put you in the business world. You're a Network Engineer. Better yet, a Systems Network Security Engineer. Sony comes to you and says EA wants to put their server in the Gaikai cloud. You need to manage it and store it. And if the server goes down? Won't be EA Customer Support handling the calls. If the process goes down for you on the XBone you don't want to hear a MS rep tell you it's an EA issue do you? So, does this make business sense when they have the means to manage this already?

Why do I think EA wants their own server to link with the networks? Numbers game (adding number of users to the EA list gives them more power) plus an easier process of putting their games on the server which they can manage what goes in and out quickly, and DLC which would be much easier to go through with than the Sony internal process.

Listen, I'm all for choices but I don't need to eat Head Cheese to tell you I don't like it.

As of right now the current PS Now model will be a complete failure. $30 for 90 days access of 1 game vs $30 for a full year of access to multiple games, discounts, and early access. Its not even close which is better. EA can't just put their games on PS Now and make up their own rules. If your not into the EA games then yea its not for you. But its a great value for those that are. Nothing is better than having a choice. Thats what gamers want right ? Sony is for the gamers right ?

[areobee401]

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Am I the only one who had zero interest in PS Now from the jump?

[Fresh Tendrils]

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All the comments on the PSNow Beta blog post are complaining about the pricing and rightfully so.

Its disappointing. At those prices I would be better off buying a PS3 and loading up on games.

[m1ke_nyc]

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Am I the only one who had zero interest in PS Now from the jump?

I have interest in some PS1 and PS2 classics but not at the current pricing. The prices to rent these games you can walk into gamestop and buy them at the same price or cheaper.