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  • Phobia
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    • Jan 2008
    • 11623

    #25936
    Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

    Originally posted by Boltman
    What is the main purpose for PS4 throttling our Internet?

    To handle server stress or something?
    infrastructure load, I imagine its a carry over from the "free" online service that was in place on PS3. A free service had its draw backs, one was they throttled the speeds. The problem is now we are paying for the service but the cap is still in place, limiting our PSN speeds. In the end like anything else, I bet it falls on the almighty dollar is why its still in place.

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    • sbauer318
      MVP
      • Mar 2004
      • 2511

      #25937
      Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

      Originally posted by Phobia
      Let me reword this to be better understood.



      You can use the server browser built into the PS4 to clearly see the limit lies with PSN. Go to speedtest.net on your hardlined PC and run a speed test.

      Mine comes up around these speeds.


      Now turn on your PS4, open up the web browser and go to speedtest.net webpage or another 3rd party speed test to run test through the PS4. You will "most likely" get much higher speeds than what the "PS4" is stating is your speeds.

      I get speeds like this (I'm on work pc so just using this as example of speed difference I see between PSN vs 3rd party).


      The reason for this, the PS4 system "speed test" runs through the PSN service which houses the limiter.

      Google Playstation 4 speed cap and you will find topic after topic. There is one somewhere with a Sony employee admitting there is a limiter in place.
      Yeah, I understand all of this, and I agree the problem is PSN, but it doesn't prove that there's a limiter in place.

      The speedtest.net test just shows that the PS4 (with the help of someone else's server) is capable of downloading at high speeds.

      It's possible that there's a limiter, but it could be anything else too. Old infrastructure, poor routing, overload. Really anything.

      I've had high PSN speeds before which is why I just don't think it's a limiter. The high speeds were even done after PSNs speed test told me that my speeds were lower.

      I think everyone can agree, though, that PSN needs to be improved. My whole point was that the speed rating is only as accurate as the download server being used for the test.
      Last edited by sbauer318; 07-10-2015, 03:10 PM.
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      • sbauer318
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        • Mar 2004
        • 2511

        #25938
        Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

        I just ran three tests against PSNs download servers. The test involved download 1.2GB pkg for an app.

        First test ran at 4.0MB/s which is about 40% of my download speed.
        Second test ran at 7.1MB/s which is about 71%.
        Third test started at 7.5MB/s and dropped to 3.5MB/s and then eventually bumped up to 4.5MB/s.

        Looks like Sony uses two CDNs as well - Akamai and Limelight. Calling Akamai directly gave me those speeds so maybe it's a difference in CDNs.

        Edit: Limelight pkg is giving me > 7MB/s consistently.

        Who knows. Those CDNs use locations all over the world, so the server depends on your location, which is why some people had success with DNS changes. Are they paying for certain speeds? It's tough to say.
        Last edited by sbauer318; 07-10-2015, 03:42 PM.
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        • Phobia
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          • Jan 2008
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          #25939
          Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

          Originally posted by sbauer318
          I just ran three tests against PSNs download servers. The test involved download 1.2GB pkg for an app.

          First test ran at 4.0MB/s which is about 40% of my download speed.
          Second test ran at 7.1MB/s which is about 71%.
          Third test started at 7.5MB/s and dropped to 3.5MB/s and then eventually bumped up to 4.5MB/s.

          Looks like Sony uses two CDNs as well - Akamai and Limelight. Calling Akamai directly gave me those speeds so maybe it's a difference in CDNs.
          I'll never see 50% of my capable speeds on PSN, I've just come to expect it.

          I'll run some tests with screen grabs tonight of both wireless & hardlined.

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          • sbauer318
            MVP
            • Mar 2004
            • 2511

            #25940
            Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

            Originally posted by Phobia
            I'll never see 50% of my capable speeds on PSN, I've just come to expect it.

            I'll run some tests with screen grabs tonight of both wireless & hardlined.
            For what it's worth, those speed tests were done on a PC, not on the PS4.
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            • Phobia
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              • Jan 2008
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              #25941
              Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

              Originally posted by sbauer318
              For what it's worth, those speed tests were done on a PC, not on the PS4.
              Shouldn't make a difference since its the network/servers that lies the issue not the physical hardware of PS4.

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              • sbauer318
                MVP
                • Mar 2004
                • 2511

                #25942
                Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                Originally posted by Phobia
                Shouldn't make a difference since its the network/servers that lies the issue not the physical hardware of PS4.
                Right. I'm just not technically signed into PSN so no authentication tokens are being passed around. It's like I'm just some random client/server.
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                • RoyalBoyle78
                  Aka."Footballforever"
                  • May 2003
                  • 23918

                  #25943
                  Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                  Add me back to the PS4 list, I own both consoles at the same time now, I had two Xbox ones, but the stupid siging in and out everytime my son was on the one ij the living room and me on the one in the bedroom was annoying as hell. So my cuz who wanted a one offered to trade his 2 week old ps4 for my 2nd Xbox one, so I have both , PS4 is in my bedroom. Need to get the show now
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                  • RoyalBoyle78
                    Aka."Footballforever"
                    • May 2003
                    • 23918

                    #25944
                    Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                    Originally posted by spidertour02
                    What kind of buffoon would trade a brand-new PS4 for an Xbone?


                    My cousin, that's the buffoon, it was system for system, no big deal. My was newer, lol. More of his freinds are on Xbox, I own both now so its all good for me
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                    • NYGiants4Natic
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                      • Apr 2010
                      • 2046

                      #25945
                      Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                      Originally posted by spidertour02
                      What kind of buffoon would trade a brand-new PS4 for an Xbone?
                      One that wants to be able to log in online every day all day with no issues...

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                      • jvalverde88
                        Moderator
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 11787

                        #25946
                        Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                        Originally posted by NYGiants4Natic
                        One that wants to be able to log in online every day all day with no issues...

                        I bet if I said a negative comment "playfully" in the Xbox thread I would get called a troll, right?
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                        • daniel77733
                          Banned
                          • Nov 2011
                          • 3544

                          #25947
                          Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                          Originally posted by NYGiants4Natic
                          One that wants to be able to log in online every day all day with no issues...
                          Originally posted by jvalverde88
                          I bet if I said a negative comment "playfully" in the Xbox thread I would get called a troll, right?
                          You have to cut the Xbox fans some slack. I would be pissed off too if my favorite console of choice hasn't been first since the brand started.

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                          • Boltman
                            L.A. to S.D. to HI
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 18283

                            #25948
                            Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                            Don't start bringing this console war stuff over into this thread please. I see enough of it in the Xbox One thread already.

                            Not singling anyone out, generally speaking.

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                            • 23
                              yellow
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 66469

                              #25949
                              Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                              Originally posted by Boltman
                              Don't start bringing this console war stuff over into this thread please. I see enough of it in the Xbox One thread already.

                              Not singling anyone out, generally speaking.
                              I support this... Let's move along

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                              • bigbob
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                                • Sep 2007
                                • 10471

                                #25950
                                Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                                I'll probably be buying a new hard drive soon, but I'm waiting for Amazon Prime Day.

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