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  • #33121
    sroz39
    The Man!
    • Apr 2006
    • 2802

    Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion


    Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

    Originally posted by Smallville102001
    The difference between 60 and 30 is so small its not even funny. I wish the whole 60 vs 30 FPS thing could be outlawed and not aloud to be talked about. The whole 60 FPS thing is so grossly overrated and I get so sick of hearing about something that is hard to even notice the difference.
    ...it's not a big deal to you, my friend. But I'd say to the majority of people, especially on these forums, it's very noticeable and very important.

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    • #33122
      Artman22
      MVP
      • Jul 2006
      • 4985

      Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion


      Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

      Originally posted by FinsUp75
      Looking for assistance.
      https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

      This is my current AV receiver. With the need to pass through 4K and HDR to the KS8000, the HDMI from the PS4 Pro will have to go directly to the TV. Then, I'll have to use the optical audio out from the Pro to the receiver, thereby losing the Dolby TrueHD and DTS HD audio.

      Are there any workarounds I'm not thinking of, besides having to replace the receiver at some point? Anyone else in the same boat?


      Run the PS4 directly to the tv and then connect your receiver to the tv's HDMI ARC port. It'll automatically send all sound to the receiver and the receiver will output 5.1 sound.


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      • #33123
        FinsUp75
        PRO
        • Nov 2004
        • 376

        Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion


        Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

        Originally posted by Artman22
        Run the PS4 directly to the tv and then connect your receiver to the tv's HDMI ARC port. It'll automatically send all sound to the receiver and the receiver will output 5.1 sound.


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        Thank you, sir. Was not even aware of ARC because I've always been able to run everything to the receiver, and then run HDMI out from receiver to display.

        However, I just found this on avsforum "But keep in mind that ARC is limited to 5.1 audio just like optical. It can't send HD Audio (DTS-MS, Dolby TrueHD, etc). The only advantage of ARC is that it eliminates the optical cable. ARC is also associated with CEC (both are HDMI mediated) and there are lots of issues with CEC which can carryover to ARC."
        Last edited by FinsUp75; 11-14-2016, 01:16 PM. Reason: addt'l info
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        • #33124
          Tomba
          TOMBA IS ONLINE
          • Sep 2006
          • 8908

          Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion


          Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

          Originally posted by Smallville102001
          The difference between 60 and 30 is so small its not even funny. I wish the whole 60 vs 30 FPS thing could be outlawed and not aloud to be talked about. The whole 60 FPS thing is so grossly overrated and I get so sick of hearing about something that is hard to even notice the difference.
          wow could disagree more

          30fps WITH interpolation yeah ok its pretty decent but by iteslef is BAD
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          • #33125
            Tomba
            TOMBA IS ONLINE
            • Sep 2006
            • 8908

            Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion


            Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

            Originally posted by sroz39
            ...it's not a big deal to you, my friend. But I'd say to the majority of people, especially on these forums, it's very noticeable and very important.

            Sent from my S7 Edge
            esp in sports games

            i mean i remember when 60fps was introduced first to ncaa on xbox 360

            wow was it a difference
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            • #33126
              NYGiants4Natic
              Banned
              • Apr 2010
              • 2046

              Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion


              Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

              TF2 is on sale at walmart for 29.99 and I got it at best buy price matched

              Just started campaign on the PRO and wow this game looks amazing compared to vanilla beta I played

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              • #33127
                sbauer318
                MVP
                • Mar 2004
                • 2511

                Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion


                Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                Originally posted by Tomba
                wow could disagree more

                30fps WITH interpolation yeah ok its pretty decent but by iteslef is BAD
                That only helps with how it appears. Doesn't do anything for timing/responsiveness. It's always bad, IMO
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                • #33128
                  kwebbvols4423
                  VFL
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 2627

                  Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion


                  Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                  Originally posted by Smallville102001
                  The difference between 60 and 30 is so small its not even funny. I wish the whole 60 vs 30 FPS thing could be outlawed and not aloud to be talked about. The whole 60 FPS thing is so grossly overrated and I get so sick of hearing about something that is hard to even notice the difference.
                  Really? Come on man.
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                  • #33129
                    sbauer318
                    MVP
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 2511

                    Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion


                    Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                    Originally posted by Smallville102001
                    The difference between 60 and 30 is so small its not even funny. I wish the whole 60 vs 30 FPS thing could be outlawed and not aloud to be talked about. The whole 60 FPS thing is so grossly overrated and I get so sick of hearing about something that is hard to even notice the difference.
                    Whether you notice it or not, 60 fps is always better in most games. Only games that don't need high frame rate are turn-based strategy games. Since timing isn't an issue, there really isn't much to worry about.

                    DriveClub would be a much better game with 60 fps. Play a racing game with 60 fps and then go to a 30 fps racing game. When people talk about how fluid and responsive a game is, it's directly related to its frame rate.
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                    • #33130
                      ODogg
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 37953

                      Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion


                      Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                      Originally posted by Smallville102001
                      The difference between 60 and 30 is so small its not even funny. I wish the whole 60 vs 30 FPS thing could be outlawed and not aloud to be talked about. The whole 60 FPS thing is so grossly overrated and I get so sick of hearing about something that is hard to even notice the difference.
                      We will have to agree to disagree. As a huge fan of racing games in particular I can tell you that there is a very clear cut difference in my eyes.
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                      • #33131
                        ODogg
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 37953

                        Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion


                        Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                        I'm almost afraid to post this but this is my receiver that I bought in 2012, will it need to be replaced to utilize all of the features of the PS4 Pro?



                        EDIT: it says the HDMI is 1.4 so I presume I'm screwed. What would you guys recommend that I do then, just send the video directly to the HDMI and bypass my a/v receiver for video? Then use an optical feed to my receiver input?
                        Last edited by ODogg; 11-14-2016, 02:26 PM.
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                        • #33132
                          NYGiants4Natic
                          Banned
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 2046

                          Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion


                          Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                          Originally posted by ODogg
                          I'm almost afraid to post this but this is my receiver that I bought in 2012, will it need to be replaced to utilize all of the features of the PS4 Pro?



                          EDIT: it says the HDMI is 1.4 so I presume I'm screwed. What would you guys recommend that I do then, just send the video directly to the HDMI and bypass my a/v receiver for video? Then use an optical feed to my receiver input?

                          yup....either get a new receiver or plug console to tv directly and use optical from receiver to pro

                          You lose the high codecs but that is more for blu ray movies

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                          • #33133
                            Artman22
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2006
                            • 4985

                            Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion


                            Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                            Originally posted by kwebbvols4423
                            Really? Come on man.


                            He also said he doesn't notice the difference between 480p and 1080p lol...


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                            • #33134
                              Smallville102001
                              All Star
                              • Mar 2015
                              • 6542

                              Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion


                              Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                              So my Samsung KS8000 55 inch TV I should have on sat. Order Rise of the tomb Raider cost 40 after the BB games thing and have a 2 TB hard drive on the way was down to about 22GB. Also have a 20 PSN card on the way has I still need to buy like one last track DLC for drive club and I have been meaning to get Infamous first light still need to beat second son. I don't think i am going to play Rise of the tomb raider in till I get the new tv. I have not had any time to play video games in about 3 weeks because of work, school and trying to keep up on sports. Have 4 games on my DVR right now and just got home from school and going to watch a game and then do some home work. Sat after I get my TV I think I am then going to go play basketball and let my stuff redownload while I am gone playing basketball for a hour or so onto my hard drive and then when I get back home set the TV up. I know it is going to take me hours and hours to redownload ever thing onto the hard drive maybe even days but if I start doing it while I am playing basketball then I can at least have some games back on to it by the time I am back home.

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                              • #33135
                                Smallville102001
                                All Star
                                • Mar 2015
                                • 6542

                                Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion


                                Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                                Originally posted by kwebbvols4423
                                Really? Come on man.


                                That is just how I fell I cant tell the difference and I have seen a lot of things on the internet that shows that a lot of people can not tell the difference either. The whole 60 FPS thing is just talked about way to much and it gets very annoying. There are way more important things when it comes to games then 60 FPS and I believe from what I have seen and heard that if you where to have a video of a game with one side being 60 and the other side of the screen showing 30 with out any thing saying which side is which that about 95% of the time people would have no idea if the left or right is the 60 or the 30. I would take a game at 4k locked 30 fps any day over 1080p at 60 FPS or even 1440p and 30 or 1080p and 60. I don't play on PC so I cant comment on like 120 fps but 60 or 30 is basically the same.
                                Last edited by Smallville102001; 11-14-2016, 06:25 PM.

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