The Dark Knight Discussion **CONTAINS SPOILERS**

[Beantown]

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If Riddler is in any of the sequels, I want the Batman: Animated Series Riddler. The serious guy with a strong intellect. It would be a good contrast to the more sadistic and maniac Joker. I don't want to see Riddler jumping up and down like a lunatic. He needs to be scary in a psychological way. A way that just makes you wonder how and why does this man with such a bright mind could be so enamored by causing pain to others.

And this, I think, can then tie into Batman's infatuation with the Riddler not using his intellect for good - something that apparently has somewhat changed in the current Batman comic series as Riddler is now sometimes an aid to Batman.

edit: I also think that the Riddler back story with the abusive father that never appreciated his intelligence is the strongest of his back stories and the most realistic when explaining a character's reasons to act out like he does. So much you can do with this guy that would make him very interesting instead of some baffling fool with riddles.

Yeah. I want to see a psychological Riddler, not a comic one like Carey's was. I want his riddles to make me think, I want his crimes to have reason behind them, I want him to scare me, not make me laugh.

****...I think I just described what I wanted from the Joker (switch riddles with "jokes" and stories, though). Maybe, if it is the Riddler, they can find someone to pull off the role as well as Ledger did, though I doubt that will ever happen.

[Fresh Tendrils]

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From MTV (so take it however you want):

Whether you agree or not, judging from both fan reaction and near universal critical acclaim, “The Dark Knight” will almost certainly go down as the greatest comic book movie of all-time, with a performance from Heath Ledger that is being hailed as one of the greatest on-screen villains ever. Now all Christopher Nolan, his brother Jonathan, David Goyer, and an as yet unnamed villain have to do is top it.
“I think that’s the scariest thing – to think, could we come up with a third movie that was as good as the first two? Can we top ourselves?” screenwriter David Goyer asked aloud, almost rhetorically, in a recent conversation with MTV News. “Doing it a third time would be a big proposition.”
Make no mistake about it, though, a third film HAS been discussed, Goyer confessed, revealing that, while nothing is concrete, both a villain and a theme have been bandied about.
“We’ve only talked loosely about it, though, Chris and I,” Goyer said.
Interestingly, it’s the theme, and not the villain, that most interests me, especially given how the latter seems inexorably tied to the former in this new modern Batman universe. (Fear the predominant issue in “Begins” precipitating the introduction of Scarecrow, escalation in “Knight” similarly calling for The Joker.
The fact that Goyer has a theme he wants to keep in mind for a possible “Batman 3” means he also has a direction, a crisis, and, yes, a villain.
So what is it?
“I have one,” Goyer said laughing. “But I’m not going to tell you. Chris is very particular about that.
“I do think, though, that if there’s not a third film – these two movies stand on their own,” he added. “I think it could go either way.”
Not us. We want a “Batman 3.”

[Blzer]

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I agree with Goyer's last statement, though. These two movies most certainly stand on their own, and if we don't hear anything about a third one within the next two years, well, that would just be okay. If we hear about one after that, I would be excited. But I don't really want to hear an announcement about a third one right now. I still want to glorify over this one for a long while.

[ZB9]

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knowing the joker. The button that you had was probably wired to your boat.

ha I was thinking that also. That is what I thought would happen

[supremeslang]

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Very good movie that didn't even seem like it was 2 1/2 hours. Ledger was outstanding as many have said on here. The disappearing pencil trick was classic by him.

I love the part where he is leaving the hospital after talking to Dent. His reaction to the mayhem right before he jumps on the bus to escape was funny as hell to me. Reading the reviews, I thought the Joker would be all serious. Instead, he was twisted and funny. Great performance. Overall I felt the movie was good, but not great.

[Fresh Tendrils]

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Found a cool article about the guy who plays the guy in the Joker video...not sure if I could be any less specific, ha.

Here ya go

[Tomba]

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Just saw it!

That said....

The pacing of the film was a bit uneven it went fast then slow and ultimately made the movie seems long and overdone. EVERY scene with The Joker was brilliant. Ledger made this movie downright memorable with his performance

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The scene where he is getting out of the hospital in the nurse get up has to be one of the craziest visuals I've seen in a movie. simply amazing scene

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I am sure about one thing though. I am even more saddened with Ledger's passing now...I am happy the movie was his to be remembered for.

[OSUFan_88]

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I don't think anyone will ever play a villian quite as dark and twisted as Heath played the Joker. He had the perfect balance of humor, darkness, and just flat out twisted humor.

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I think the perfect example of his twisted humor is his "magic" trick. One of the most shocking, quick, and disturbing deaths i've ever seen in a movie.

Heath's performance really overshadows a great performance by the actor who play Harvey Dent and Christian Bale.

[dossier]

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Heath's performance really overshadows a great performance by the actor who play Harvey Dent and Christian Bale.

The actor who plays Harvey Dent is Aaron Eckhart

[Gamecock]

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Something i've been confused about ever since I've seen the movie

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What was the part with Dent and the police officer in the ambulance about? I remember Dent taking a glance at the officer's name tag but I didn't know what resemblance it beared .

[Bruins]

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Something i've been confused about ever since I've seen the movie

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What was the part with Dent and the police officer in the ambulance about? I remember Dent taking a glance at the officer's name tag but I didn't know what resemblance it beared .

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It had Rachel's name on it.

[aukevin]

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Heath's performance really overshadows a great performance by the actor who play Harvey Dent and Christian Bale.

I would like Christian Bale's Batman a lot better if he had a different voice for him. I think he's gone a little over the top trying to make Batman sound tough.

[CaptainZombie]

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Just saw it!

That said....

The pacing of the film was a bit uneven it went fast then slow and ultimately made the movie seems long and overdone. EVERY scene with The Joker was brilliant. Ledger made this movie downright memorable with his performance

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The scene where he is getting out of the hospital in the nurse get up has to be one of the craziest visuals I've seen in a movie. simply amazing scene

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I can't remember which Batman story I read years ago, but The Joker was in a nurse's outfit and it looked creepy as hell then.........but I agree with you, it was very creepy. Ledger really made the comic book version of the Joker jump out of the pages and on to the screen. It is sad that he passed, but I am happy that his last film will be something that will be talked about for years to come due to his excellent performance. Please give the man an Oscar when the time comes.

I would like Christian Bale's Batman a lot better if he had a different voice for him. I think he's gone a little over the top trying to make Batman sound tough.

My wife was saying the same thing, she still likes the Michael Keaton version of Wayne and Batman first and then Bale's.

[Brandwin]

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I need to see this again before it leaves theaters.

[Kashanova]

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I can't remember which Batman story I read years ago, but The Joker was in a nurse's outfit and it looked creepy as hell then.........but I agree with you, it was very creepy. Ledger really made the comic book version of the Joker jump out of the pages and on to the screen. It is sad that he passed, but I am happy that his last film will be something that will be talked about for years to come due to his excellent performance. Please give the man an Oscar when the time comes.

My wife was saying the same thing, she still likes the Michael Keaton version of Wayne and Batman first and then Bale's.

yeah the way keaton said im batman in the first film still gives me chills