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  • neovsmatrix
    MVP
    • Jul 2002
    • 2878

    #286
    Re: Heroes (NBC, Mondays @ 9PM)

    Originally posted by trobinson97
    She was talking to her mother when she messed up her hand. Her dad knows about her from watching the videotape she recorded.

    The flame guy is the radioactive dude who's wife died of cancer I am pretty sure of. His power seems a lot like Sunspot's from New Mutants/X-Force if you've ever read those comics.

    I thought it was a good episode. I'm very glad we didn't see too much action just yet, I love the pacing. It reminds me of Unbreakable, which I thought was one of the best "comic book" type movies and the definitive "origin" story. This way it allows for more character development. You get to delve more into the psyches of the characters and learn their motivations for what they do with their powers, and that in the end makes them more interesting, to me at least.

    Take Peter for example. Of the nine episodes we've seen, in over half of them he thought he could fly. Now he knows that his power is to absorb the powers of others when he is in close proximity to them. Given that he just recently found this out, he hasn't had a lot of time to hone it and learn to control it. It would have been really unrealistic for him to just "know" how to use it and fight Sylar with his(Sylar's) own power(s). I was really happy the staff didn't take the "let's give em some action soon to satiate their short attention spans" route.

    Likewise I was happy to see that Jeph Loeb, a graphic novel writer of what some would call "legendary" status was involved in the show. He's written some very good stories over the years and though he's credited as a co-producer, I have no doubt he's lending sizable influence to the writing staff. I thought it was a great episode and can't wait til next week's.
    I loved Unbreakable, it's one of my favorite movies and IMHO, I think both Heroes and Unbreakable have some Hindu influence. Unbreakable's basis was Hindu philosophy, although it seems the Hindu influence seems more transparent in Heroes, as there are Hindu icons shown and Sanskrit shlokas sung at various points during the show.

    I think Mohinder's actually going to be the Professor X of the group. Sort of a spiritual guru, one who doesn't have the powers, but maybe eventually develops the wisdom in guiding the use of the hereos for the greater good of society. That's what I thought they hinted at near the end of yesterday's episode.

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    • Wheele8
      Rookie
      • Feb 2003
      • 110

      #287
      Re: Heroes (NBC, Mondays @ 9PM)

      I agree that they shouldn't have had the epic battle between Sylar and Peter yet. The previews always make it seem like a must watch / final episode kind of thing, but they went the right route IMO by pacing it. I do think the whole Hiro traveling back in time to save the waitress side story may be the show's first pitfall though. They've done a great job making all the actions "believable" so far, but time travel stuff can get out of control, and fast. here's hoping they avoid that, and wrap it up so it all makes sense.

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      • trobinson97
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        • Oct 2004
        • 16366

        #288
        Re: Heroes (NBC, Mondays @ 9PM)

        Originally posted by neovsmatrix
        I loved Unbreakable, it's one of my favorite movies and IMHO, I think both Heroes and Unbreakable have some Hindu influence. Unbreakable's basis was Hindu philosophy, although it seems the Hindu influence seems more transparent in Heroes, as there are Hindu icons shown and Sanskrit shlokas sung at various points during the show.

        I think Mohinder's actually going to be the Professor X of the group. Sort of a spiritual guru, one who doesn't have the powers, but maybe eventually develops the wisdom in guiding the use of the hereos for the greater good of society. That's what I thought they hinted at near the end of yesterday's episode.

        I see what you're saying about Mohinder being a Professor X type. He's even got a Cerebro type computer program, just like Xavier. I am wondering if the young boy Sanjog(sp) will have a larger role if/when there is some kind of team formed.
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        • RockinDaMike
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          • Feb 2003
          • 9091

          #289
          Re: Heroes (NBC, Mondays @ 9PM)

          Originally posted by Clay_OS
          Don't you think the "fireball" type image guy could be the nuclear guy that the cop and FBI have been talking to?

          Yes I think thats him and I also believe that he is the guy that is that huge explosion or will cause that huge nuclear explosion in the future.
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          • Fresh Tendrils
            Strike Hard and Fade Away
            • Jul 2002
            • 36131

            #290
            Re: Heroes (NBC, Mondays @ 9PM)

            Originally posted by RockinDaMike
            Yes I think thats him and I also believe that he is the guy that is that huge explosion or will cause that huge nuclear explosion in the future.
            Or, perhaps it was Sylar?



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            • shugknight
              MVP
              • Oct 2004
              • 4585

              #291
              Re: Heroes (NBC, Mondays @ 9PM)

              Or maybe it will be Peter. If Sylar finds out about Peters powers, maybe he'll take his brains, then steal the nuclear guys powers, and cause the explosion himself...

              Also, I really think the reason for NBC to overhype the "Save the cheerleader, save the world" concept is to keep viewers tuned in. Because I feel that if you miss 1 episode, you've already missed alot, and won't understand what happens in the following episode. Hence there reason why the past 2 weeks, every Heroes commercial has them talking about that line.

              Its not that the last show was a let-down, its just letting the big climax reach even bigger by showing you bits and pieces of the plot. If something big were to happen yesterday, and the whole "save the cheerleader" plot was revealed, then the season finale wouldn't be as eventful as I think it would be.

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              • Goffs
                New Ork Giants
                • Feb 2003
                • 12279

                #292
                Re: Heroes (NBC, Mondays @ 9PM)

                Sylar couldve taken the power from the Geico caveman and nuked NY.....

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                • gschwendt
                  EA Game Changer
                  • May 2003
                  • 1044

                  #293
                  Re: Heroes (NBC, Mondays @ 9PM)

                  on 9thwonders' message board, people are suggesting that rather than Sylar being able to steal people's powers that instead he just simply has telekinesis. That would explain how he's able to "throw" things at people as well as he's able to "fly".

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                  • CMH
                    Making you famous
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 26203

                    #294
                    Re: Heroes (NBC, Mondays @ 9PM)

                    Originally posted by Fresh Tendrils
                    I thought it was Claire's mom she was hiding her hand from and not her father.
                    If that's the case then that brings up my theory on Claire's dad.

                    I think his power is to prevent people from using their powers.

                    I'm trying to remember if we have seen anyone use their power around him.

                    The guy that can erase memory only did so after Claire's dad told him to and he walked away from the room. Not to mention the cop wasn't reading any minds while talking to Claire's dad.

                    The girl with the ability to "persuade" did so in private with the artist. Claire's dad made sure not to be around while she spoke to him.

                    This could explain why the girl can't really say anything to him. She's basically powerless around him. Why else would she not "persuade" him to not junk the artist if she felt he was letting emotions get in his way?

                    If I'm wrong then I'm hoping someone can think of an example. But, so far I'm thinking that's his ability.
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                    • CMH
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                      • Oct 2002
                      • 26203

                      #295
                      Re: Heroes (NBC, Mondays @ 9PM)

                      Originally posted by eXperiment63
                      BTW, I was just thinkina bout it... Peter did use Sylar's power last night... When Sylar was using his mind to throw the locker doors are Peter, did anyone else notice that they kept going around him? Peter was making them do that.
                      I'm thinking the writer's put a lot of time into the characters.

                      Peter is very believable. He isn't too confident. It's almost as if he is afraid to explore his abilities.

                      I say this because it frustrated me a bit to see him heal himself and not think for a second, "Well, how the hell am I doing that? Let's see. I absorb other people's powers and this girl is standing next to me. Oh, crap! She's got powers, too!"

                      But, I let it go because 1) it would have been crazy for him to think that considering the circumstances he is in. 2) Peter's personality would have never allowed for that. He's already unsure about himself, let alone his powers. For him to start realizing his potential this soon would kill the show.

                      Originally posted by gschwendt
                      on 9thwonders' message board, people are suggesting that rather than Sylar being able to steal people's powers that instead he just simply has telekinesis. That would explain how he's able to "throw" things at people as well as he's able to "fly".
                      That makes the most sense to me. His telekinesis would explain how he can open someone's head mentally.
                      "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                      "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                      • ShaKobe
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                        • Sep 2002
                        • 2964

                        #296
                        Re: Heroes (NBC, Mondays @ 9PM)

                        Originally posted by YankeePride_YP
                        If that's the case then that brings up my theory on Claire's dad.

                        I think his power is to prevent people from using their powers.
                        . . .
                        If I'm wrong then I'm hoping someone can think of an example. But, so far I'm thinking that's his ability.
                        Peter's brother used his powers around him. Claire's dad and his mind-erasing buddy were chasing him in Vegas. When they had him cornered, he flew straight up and outta there.

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                        • CMH
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                          • Oct 2002
                          • 26203

                          #297
                          Re: Heroes (NBC, Mondays @ 9PM)

                          Originally posted by ShaKobe
                          Peter's brother used his powers around him. Claire's dad and his mind-erasing buddy were chasing him in Vegas. When they had him cornered, he flew straight up and outta there.
                          Definitely forgot about that.
                          "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                          "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                          • SlimKibbles
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                            • Apr 2004
                            • 7276

                            #298
                            Re: Heroes (NBC, Mondays @ 9PM)

                            Originally posted by ShaKobe
                            Peter's brother used his powers around him. Claire's dad and his mind-erasing buddy were chasing him in Vegas. When they had him cornered, he flew straight up and outta there.
                            Also, if I remember correctly, I think when the cop was kidnapped, Claire's dad told him at one point when they were staring at each other something along the lines of, "You're trying to read my mind, aren't you? Not with my friend here." Then the mind-eraser guy walks into view. I always thought that the mind-eraser guy's power was to block someone else from using their power, but that again doesn't explain the incident where Peter's bro flew away.
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                            • CMH
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                              • Oct 2002
                              • 26203

                              #299
                              Re: Heroes (NBC, Mondays @ 9PM)

                              What would happen if Peter adopted Nikki's power?

                              That's the question that seems to have some people on the Heroes Board pondering whether or not Sylar is the future alter-ego of Peter.

                              I know it's a stretch. I don't really believe in it, either. But, I thought it was an interesting theory.

                              Would be an explanation to why Sylar wants so many people's brains. Perhaps, he was tired of adopting powers and instead found that "eating" the brains gave him the power permanently.

                              Again, not my theory. But, interesting.
                              Last edited by CMH; 11-24-2006, 06:03 PM.
                              "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                              "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                              • Goffs
                                New Ork Giants
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 12279

                                #300
                                Re: Heroes (NBC, Mondays @ 9PM)

                                Originally posted by YankeePride_YP
                                What would happen if Peter adopted Nikki's power?

                                That's the question that seems to have some people on the Heroes Board pondering whether or not Sylar is the future alter-ego of Peter.

                                I know it's a stretch. I don't really believe in it, either. But, I thought it was an interesting theory.

                                Would be an explanation to why Sylar wants so many people's brains. Perhaps, he was tired of adopting powers and instead found that "eating" the brains gave him the power permanently.

                                Again, not my theory. But, interesting.
                                id say it would be probable if Peter met Nikki but they have yet to cross paths...interesting theory though

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