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  • Leon
    An Old Trafford
    • Mar 2003
    • 4981

    #841
    Re: *** LOST: Season 5 Discussion***

    Let's face it, LOST's ending will probably piss some (or alot of) people off. I have faith they won't screw it up though.
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    • CMH
      Making you famous
      • Oct 2002
      • 26203

      #842
      Re: *** LOST: Season 5 Discussion***

      Nah, Lost's ending is going to piss off most of the fanbase. I guarantee it.

      It's gonna be Sopranos all over again.
      "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

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      • fistofrage
        Hall Of Fame
        • Aug 2002
        • 13682

        #843
        Re: *** LOST: Season 5 Discussion***

        Originally posted by YankeePride
        Nah, Lost's ending is going to piss off most of the fanbase. I guarantee it.

        It's gonna be Sopranos all over again.
        I don't know if it will be Soprano's all over again, but I guarantee they won't reveal the meaning of life.

        I agree with Yankee though that the ending will irritate people. They will choose to leave some loose ends. Even though they've tied some of the loose ends up, the show has gotten kind of out of hand especially if you were like me and thought after season 1 that this whole thing would somehow make sense scientifically.

        Now anything is fair game, so just sit back and watch.
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        • HealyMonster
          Titans Era has begun.
          • Aug 2002
          • 5992

          #844
          Re: *** LOST: Season 5 Discussion***

          Originally posted by fistofrage
          I don't know if it will be Soprano's all over again, but I guarantee they won't reveal the meaning of life.

          I agree with Yankee though that the ending will irritate people. They will choose to leave some loose ends. Even though they've tied some of the loose ends up, the show has gotten kind of out of hand especially if you were like me and thought after season 1 that this whole thing would somehow make sense scientifically.

          Now anything is fair game, so just sit back and watch.
          yeah, its actually funny how when you think, the show went from some people stranded on an island trying to get home, to just chaos, time travel, smoke monsters, resurrections, egyptian mythology. holy crap.

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          • fistofrage
            Hall Of Fame
            • Aug 2002
            • 13682

            #845
            Re: *** LOST: Season 5 Discussion***

            Originally posted by Renegade44
            yeah, its actually funny how when you think, the show went from some people stranded on an island trying to get home, to just chaos, time travel, smoke monsters, resurrections, egyptian mythology. holy crap.

            I could be wrong, but I find it very hard to believe that this was the show the writers had planned all along.

            I think in some ways they read the fan forums, saw what the pulse and opredicitions were, and did things to keep us "Lost".
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            • VanCitySportsGuy
              NYG_Meth
              • Feb 2003
              • 9351

              #846
              Re: *** LOST: Season 5 Discussion***

              Damon and Carlton have said every major plot point of Lost was figured out before the pilot was shot.

              I want to believe them but at the same time they said Michael Emerson was originally only going to be in a couple of episodes. Ben is a huge character in the Lost world so I couldn't picture the show without him.

              My prediction for the final scene is the originally Losties on Oceanic 815 and they pass by the Island without anything happening. I know this ending would piss off the majority of the fans but I'm sticking to this prediction.

              Also unless there are extra episodes next season, it appears there will be less episodes than originally intended due to the writers strike.

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              • fistofrage
                Hall Of Fame
                • Aug 2002
                • 13682

                #847
                Re: *** LOST: Season 5 Discussion***

                Originally posted by asianflow
                Damon and Carlton have said every major plot point of Lost was figured out before the pilot was shot.

                I want to believe them but at the same time they said Michael Emerson was originally only going to be in a couple of episodes. Ben is a huge character in the Lost world so I couldn't picture the show without him.

                My prediction for the final scene is the originally Losties on Oceanic 815 and they pass by the Island without anything happening. I know this ending would piss off the majority of the fans but I'm sticking to this prediction.

                Also unless there are extra episodes next season, it appears there will be less episodes than originally intended due to the writers strike.
                I think that would conflict with the story as they are writing it. What happened, happened. As far as I can understand. Flight 815 crashed, period.

                But who knows. I think it will be something like you described. Its going to be a let down, I just don't see any epich revelation or events occuring in the last episode.
                Chalepa Ta Kala.....

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                • CMH
                  Making you famous
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 26203

                  #848
                  Re: *** LOST: Season 5 Discussion***

                  I think the show had a main outline and I think they stuck to it. Some things might have changed here and there, but nothing too major. As we watch Season 6, I think we'll see a lot of things in Season 1 start to make even more sense. That's already happening little by little since Season 2. The cable in the sand is one example for me.

                  As for Michael Emerson and Ben only being a three episode player. I think this is where the producers play with our minds. Lost is famous for writing and shooting fake scenes and posting fake auditions to throw off the spoilers.

                  If they told us that Michael Emerson is going to be central to the plot, then we'd know he was a deeper character than this Henry Gale guy that landed on a balloon. By keeping us guessing and saying he was a minor player, it led the audience to think he wasn't important.

                  They've done this other times as well with auditions, going as far to post a specific casting and then hiring a person completely opposite because they were looking for the opposite the whole time.
                  "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                  "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                  • CMH
                    Making you famous
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 26203

                    #849
                    Re: *** LOST: Season 5 Discussion***

                    My prediction is the show ending with all of it's central characters living on the Island, becoming it's central inhabitants.

                    They will find a way to eliminate any threats (whether that be DHARMA, Charles Widmore, or Ben) and live happily ever after traveling through time in an effort to save the world.
                    "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                    "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                    • soltrain
                      The Batman
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 6863

                      #850
                      Re: *** LOST: Season 5 Discussion***

                      Originally posted by Renegade44
                      yeah, its actually funny how when you think, the show went from some people stranded on an island trying to get home, to just chaos, time travel, smoke monsters, resurrections, egyptian mythology. holy crap.
                      Well, the smoke monster was in the pilot - as was polar bears and crazy French beacons.
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                      • CMH
                        Making you famous
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 26203

                        #851
                        Re: *** LOST: Season 5 Discussion***

                        Originally posted by soltrain
                        Well, the smoke monster was in the pilot - as was polar bears and crazy French beacons.
                        Yea. Way back before the pilot was written, ABC hired JJ Abrams off his "success" with Alias because they thought he'd be perfect for this show.

                        ABC wanted something bigger than Cast Away, which is what the original creator of the show (Lieber I believe is his name) envisioned. So, ABC fired him (he still gets creator credit per WGA rules) and hired Abrams.

                        Abrams, realizing he needed someone else to help him then brought aboard Damon Lindeloff to help develop this story. They wanted to hit ABC's vision of something beyond people just living on an Island. They didn't want Survivor the series.

                        Abrams and Lindeloff agreed to come up with ideas independently, and after a weekend met up and shared their thoughts. Abrams was apparently so impressed with Lindeloff because the ideas were great in scope and also matched his vision for the series. So, they went to work on breaking down the entire plot of the series.

                        Shortly thereafter, Abrams stepped down to hand the reins to Lindeloff. Lindeloff then hired Carlton Cuse to help him run the series.

                        It's been said that while all three know how the show ends, they do not share that information with the writers. They only give them enough information to write their assigned stories. I imagine that much like Weeds where the creator edits every script, team Lindeloff and Cuse go through every line for plot accuracy.

                        It is incredibly difficult to create a show of this magnitude with no idea or ending in mind. The only real crime they've committed and admitted to, is stretching out the story because there was no series finale set in stone. Once they had that set, they proceeded forward knowing how much they can say in every episode.


                        edit: A few inaccuracies. A pilot had been written before hiring Abrams. The pilot, written by the original creator, had advanced the story up to what we saw in Season 2. People were living in advanced huts, they had an intricate water supply system, and were living like regular people without the technology of today. ABC rejected this believing it to be incredibly unrealistic and Abrams rewrote the entire thing feeling that the pilot moved way too fast. They wanted huts, but not in the first episode.

                        Of course, one probably will laugh at ABC rejecting the script because of it being unrealistic and then seeing what Lost is today. That really comes down to Abrams selling his idea and introducing the story as science fiction, whereas the original creator introduced it as Survivor the series.
                        Last edited by CMH; 04-15-2009, 03:03 PM.
                        "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                        "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                        • fistofrage
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 13682

                          #852
                          Re: *** LOST: Season 5 Discussion***

                          Originally posted by YankeePride
                          My prediction is the show ending with all of it's central characters living on the Island, becoming it's central inhabitants.

                          They will find a way to eliminate any threats (whether that be DHARMA, Charles Widmore, or Ben) and live happily ever after traveling through time in an effort to save the world.
                          I think Locke, Jack and other Losties will find eternal life like Alpert apparantly has and will be keepers of the island.

                          Jin and Sun will leave the island.

                          Ben dies.

                          In fact, I wouldn't be suprised if a plane crashes on the island and Jack tells Sawyer and someone else to get down to the beach and ret to fit in.
                          Chalepa Ta Kala.....

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                          • CMH
                            Making you famous
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 26203

                            #853
                            Re: *** LOST: Season 5 Discussion***

                            Originally posted by fistofrage
                            I think Locke, Jack and other Losties will find eternal life like Alpert apparantly has and will be keepers of the island.

                            Jin and Sun will leave the island.

                            Ben dies.

                            In fact, I wouldn't be suprised if a plane crashes on the island and Jack tells Sawyer and someone else to get down to the beach and ret to fit in.
                            I want to say this too. The show ending with a new set of Losties and th ones we know replacing the Others in a sense.
                            "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                            "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                            • soltrain
                              The Batman
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 6863

                              #854
                              Re: *** LOST: Season 5 Discussion***

                              Going off your post, Yankee, I read somewhere (and I have no idea where) that the powers that be have told Matthew Fox how the series ends, so he will have a better understanding of how his character should act in certain situations.

                              Take it for what it's worth.
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                              • ASB37
                                MVP
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 2624

                                #855
                                Re: *** LOST: Season 5 Discussion***

                                Originally posted by soltrain
                                Going off your post, Yankee, I read somewhere (and I have no idea where) that the powers that be have told Matthew Fox how the series ends, so he will have a better understanding of how his character should act in certain situations.

                                Take it for what it's worth.
                                If this is in fact true, that is very interesting. I don't even want to begin thinking about all the possible theories I could make up based of that information alone, the first of which being something along the lines of what YankeePride said with the losties being the new others.
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