*** Lost: Season 6 (Final Season) ***

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  • MachoMyers
    Old School
    • Jul 2002
    • 7670

    #376
    Re: *** Lost: Season 6 (Final Season) ***

    Funny you mentioned BSG because I'm just starting Season 1 now. Didn't know about the 4 part miniseries. Might go back and watch that.

    Sorry, back on topic!

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    • Pared
      Legen - WAIT FOR IT
      • Feb 2003
      • 39337

      #377
      Re: *** Lost: Season 6 (Final Season) ***

      Originally posted by Jukeman
      speaking of Widmore,

      This goes back to the good/evil discussion....

      What if Widmore was the "good" guy and Ben was the "bad" guy influenced by MIB instead of Jacob???

      Maybe the reason they(Widmore and his people)were after Ben was to stop him from killing Jacob..
      Jacob would have never let them banish Widmore though if this were true... right?
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      • Coug00
        LOB
        • Jul 2002
        • 3476

        #378
        Re: *** Lost: Season 6 (Final Season) ***

        Originally posted by ehh
        I did think of the same idea you just mentioned, if Widmore controlled the new Locke, but the exchange between new Locke and Alpert would make no sense assuming new Locke was referring to the Black Rock and the theory that Alpert was once a slave on that ship. Though that could be a bogus theory (not to get racist but why would a white guy be a slave?) and maybe when Widmore was on the island with the military they held Alpert captive. That would make sense.
        I'm really leaning towards Richard's origins being way before the Black Rock and Flocke's comment about chains has nothing to do with the ship. The whole mythology theme behind Lost has heavy origins to Egypt and Greece. "Ricardus" screams Greek as well. I'm gonna guess he is MUCH older than the Black Rock (which supposedly landed on the island in the 1880's).
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        • CMH
          Making you famous
          • Oct 2002
          • 26203

          #379
          Re: *** Lost: Season 6 (Final Season) ***

          They have to explain the Black Rock, though. So how will they do that if it's not Alpert's point of arrival?

          The only other logical character would be Eko, but I'm not sure how they'd explain that and well, I'm not going to expand on why he's the only other logical character.
          "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

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          • Coug00
            LOB
            • Jul 2002
            • 3476

            #380
            Re: *** Lost: Season 6 (Final Season) ***

            Originally posted by YankeePride
            They have to explain the Black Rock, though. So how will they do that if it's not Alpert's point of arrival?

            The only other logical character would be Eko, but I'm not sure how they'd explain that and well, I'm not going to expand on why he's the only other logical character.
            It very well could be a part of Richard's arrival, but the whole "Ricardus" thing has me thrown off. And the chains comment by Flocke/MiB has me thrown off as well, because the Black Rock came to the island during the 1880's. By then British convicts were no longer being transported to Australia and many years prior British vessels had begun ridding the seas of slave transports. The timing doesn't match up for either of those situations, but given the history of our Losties, it makes sense if Richard was brought to the island on the Black Rock as a prisoner with a checkered past and was given an opportunity to redeem himself.

            I suppose Richard could have been a crew member on the Black Rock, but became a prisoner during his time on the island. Or Flocke/MiB's statement could have been figurative. I just throw my hands up at Lost and enjoy the ride.
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            • CMH
              Making you famous
              • Oct 2002
              • 26203

              #381
              Re: *** Lost: Season 6 (Final Season) ***

              Figurative is a good guess. It could mean anything. If it seems the most logical then it's probably not the answer.
              "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

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              • soltrain
                The Batman
                • Feb 2003
                • 6863

                #382
                Re: *** Lost: Season 6 (Final Season) ***

                I'm going to guess the black rock got to the middle of the Island because the Smoke Monster picked it up and threw it all around - but that would have probably made the dynamite go off.
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                • Fresh Tendrils
                  Strike Hard and Fade Away
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 36131

                  #383
                  Re: *** Lost: Season 6 (Final Season) ***

                  What if the the Black Rock got in the middle of the island because the island shifted location and at the time the Black Rock was there?



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                  • Coug00
                    LOB
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 3476

                    #384
                    Re: *** Lost: Season 6 (Final Season) ***

                    Originally posted by Fresh Tendrils
                    What if the the Black Rock got in the middle of the island because the island shifted location and at the time the Black Rock was there?
                    Exactly my thoughts. Which is why I'm not sold on the ship we saw with Jacob and MiB in S5 being the Black Rock.
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                    • moose1619
                      Pro
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 884

                      #385
                      Re: *** Lost: Season 6 (Final Season) ***

                      If the island is at the bottom of the ocean now, who says it wasn't under water back then and then some event made it come to the surface, leaving the black rock in the middle of the island
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                      • ~LiverpoolRed~
                        YNWA
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 10755

                        #386
                        Re: *** Lost: Season 6 (Final Season) ***

                        Originally posted by moose1619
                        If the island is at the bottom of the ocean now, who says it wasn't under water back then and then some event made it come to the surface, leaving the black rock in the middle of the island
                        Interesting. That could explain why it is in the middle of the jungle.

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                        • CMH
                          Making you famous
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 26203

                          #387
                          Re: *** Lost: Season 6 (Final Season) ***

                          Originally posted by moose1619
                          If the island is at the bottom of the ocean now, who says it wasn't under water back then and then some event made it come to the surface, leaving the black rock in the middle of the island
                          Yep, this is something that has come into my own head as well.

                          It's one of the things that makes me wonder if it being submerged under water is why the statue is broken. I'm thinking water erosion.
                          "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

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                          • Pared
                            Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 39337

                            #388
                            Re: *** Lost: Season 6 (Final Season) ***

                            I bet tonight's episode offers us a whole lot of nothing. The ep. after a season premiere always tends to be slow.
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                            • Miles_Yuhas
                              MVP
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 2689

                              #389
                              Re: *** Lost: Season 6 (Final Season) ***

                              Originally posted by moose1619
                              If the island is at the bottom of the ocean now, who says it wasn't under water back then and then some event made it come to the surface, leaving the black rock in the middle of the island
                              Hadn't thought of that. That could be a possiblity.

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                              • p_rushing
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                                • Feb 2004
                                • 14514

                                #390
                                Re: *** Lost: Season 6 (Final Season) ***

                                forgot it was tuesday already

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