Dexter (Season 5)

[iLLmatic]

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Exactly. This isn't just some hunch one of the cops has; there is a legitimate case that could, easily, be made against Dexter with his "It was me" line, combined with the fact that he IS Kyle Butler and Trinity's family knows that and would probably tell Quinn, etc.

There's a LOT more tension, especially considering that Dexter "can't" kill Quinn because Quinn really hasn't done anything wrong, and there is no Lila to kill him for him this season.

I'd keep my eye on that relationship between Deb and Quinn. That has to factor in somehow because they put it right in our faces in the first episode. Maybe a long shot, but I found it very interesting that them of all people got together especially after the Antwan situation, and it looks like their relationship is not a one time thing. Just my opinion.

[JayBee74]

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I'd keep my eye on that relationship between Deb and Quinn. That has to factor in somehow because they put it right in our faces in the first episode. Maybe a long shot, but I found it very interesting that them of all people got together especially after the Antwan situation, and it looks like their relationship is not a one time thing. Just my opinion.

The Deb/Quinn relationship complicates a lot of things. She will be resisting, he clearly thinks of her as more than a one night stand. Whatever, Deb will be an impediment for both Dexter and Quinn.

I think the challenge for Dexter will be a different one this season. Not only avoid getting caught, but convince Quinn that he's innocent.

Of course, I wouldn't bet any real money on my theory.

[CaptainZombie]

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Hmmmm.... If Dexter gets caught because of Quinn, wouldn't that make it the last season?

This is a very different situation, because Dexter is now a suspect.

Exactly. This isn't just some hunch one of the cops has; there is a legitimate case that could, easily, be made against Dexter with his "It was me" line, combined with the fact that he IS Kyle Butler and Trinity's family knows that and would probably tell Quinn, etc.

There's a LOT more tension, especially considering that Dexter "can't" kill Quinn because Quinn really hasn't done anything wrong, and there is no Lila to kill him for him this season.

You guys are right........just some things that I was tossing around in my head after Sunday's episode. This episode was good, just felt very different for me.

[CMH]

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It will always start with Deb. Dexter won't get caught until Deb figures it out. Right now, she refuses to see the clues.

It's interesting that Deb routinely solves most of the big crimes in the series and blames herself for not seeing things clearly from the get-go and yet, here she is again, blocking herself from seeing the obvious.

I'm not saying that she should know that Dexter is a serial killer. The entire Rita situation does not call for that. But, she knows that something is off about Dexter and yet, she refuses to acknowledge it completely. She shrugs it off. Always has. But she won't forever.

Quinn investigating Dexter and his relationship with Deb is probably the major connection here. This is the storyline of Season 5 and I'm going to assume that it will be Quinn's questions (though his will relate to thinking Dexter was either Rita's murderer or that he isn't handling things as a husband should) that will finally get Deb to open her eyes and recognize that Dexter is hiding something.

It has to be her. That'll make the story come full circle.

Of course, this doesn't have to be the last season. All Quinn will do is plant the bug (unintentionally) and the finale could always be Deb finally noticing that something is not right. I think we're at that point that we need a Season Finale cliffhanger that makes us really wonder what the heck will happen next. Is there anything better than Debra's eyes finally seeing Dexter for who he is?

[JayBee74]

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Come to think of it the show's two year renewal was for the fourth and fifth season, so there is at least a possibility that this could be the last season.

[CMH]

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Come to think of it the show's two year renewal was for the fourth and fifth season, so there is at least a possibility that this could be the last season.

It hasn't been renewed, true, but I would think they would announce it. As big a show as it is, telling people this is the final season would do wonders for ratings (as if they really need it, but Showtime would push it).

[CaptainZombie]

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It will always start with Deb. Dexter won't get caught until Deb figures it out. Right now, she refuses to see the clues.

It's interesting that Deb routinely solves most of the big crimes in the series and blames herself for not seeing things clearly from the get-go and yet, here she is again, blocking herself from seeing the obvious.

I'm not saying that she should know that Dexter is a serial killer. The entire Rita situation does not call for that. But, she knows that something is off about Dexter and yet, she refuses to acknowledge it completely. She shrugs it off. Always has. But she won't forever.

Quinn investigating Dexter and his relationship with Deb is probably the major connection here. This is the storyline of Season 5 and I'm going to assume that it will be Quinn's questions (though his will relate to thinking Dexter was either Rita's murderer or that he isn't handling things as a husband should) that will finally get Deb to open her eyes and recognize that Dexter is hiding something.

It has to be her. That'll make the story come full circle.

Of course, this doesn't have to be the last season. All Quinn will do is plant the bug (unintentionally) and the finale could always be Deb finally noticing that something is not right. I think we're at that point that we need a Season Finale cliffhanger that makes us really wonder what the heck will happen next. Is there anything better than Debra's eyes finally seeing Dexter for who he is?

Come to think of it the show's two year renewal was for the fourth and fifth season, so there is at least a possibility that this could be the last season.

I had heard that there was to be one more season after this one, is that true, or are they signed till the end of S5.

Yankee, good theory there as it could end up being Deb that takes her husb.......I mean brother down. LOL!

It could come down to Dexter making a decision where he has to take down Deb and Quinn when they start unraveling his past or he just gives himself up because he doesn't want to hurt his sister. I see the ending of this show not being a happy one for Dexter like the same that happened with Vic Mackey in The Shield.

[CMH]

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I see the ending of this show not being a happy one for Dexter like the same that happened with Vic Mackey in The Shield.

I wonder if anyone with the power to write this has thought about the possible ending to this series. It would seem that Dexter has to be caught. And I think a majority of the fan base wants him to be caught because as much as we understand him, we also realize he's doing something wrong. It's an interesting conflict. We root for him, but deep down we know it can't go on forever. No murderer should ever remain uncaught.

However, how do you reach that resolution while still giving the character a proper farewell? Does the fan base want to see Dexter fry? I highly doubt it. We want to know that someone will catch the popular serial killer, but we also don't want him to be treated like one.


Apparently a quote from Michael C. Hall.

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"I don't get the impression that any endgame is in sight," says the star, whose contract runs through Season 6. "I think there's more story to tell. But I don't count my chickens before they're hatched. Or my victims before they're wrapped up."

[JayBee74]

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I see the ending of this show not being a happy one for Dexter like the same that happened with Vic Mackey in The Shield.

Now that was depressing.

[Beantown]

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Apparently a quote from Michael C. Hall.

Spoiler

"I don't get the impression that any endgame is in sight," says the star, whose contract runs through Season 6. "I think there's more story to tell. But I don't count my chickens before they're hatched. Or my victims before they're wrapped up."

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That means at least one more season of my favorite show.

Had they followed the books, there would be plenty of stories to branch off into, but since they already cut a few of those options out of the show - killing off Brian in the first season the biggest, for instance - I don't know if I could see a 7th season or beyond for this show. One more after this could be the perfect length, though, depending on where this season goes.

[Mo]

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Note that the total number (2.34 million) is for two airings that are also broken out separately below.

via press release:

DEXTER™ RETURNS TO ITS HIGHEST RATED PREMIERE EVER

With Over 2.3 Million Viewers, DEXTER Delivers SHOWTIME’s Best Season Premiere In 15 Years

Last Night’s Fifth Season Premiere Up Double Digits Vs. Season Four

* DEXTER’s fifth season debut marked the series’ highest rated premiere ever and the best season premiere for a SHOWTIME original series in 15 years.
* With 2.34 million viewers, DEXTER attracted the largest season premiere night audience in series history.
* The fifth season premiere ranks as the top telecast for the network in 2010.

9:01p 1.77 MM viewers (+16% vs. last year’s premiere 1.52MM)

11:00p 575K viewers

Total 2.34 MM viewers (+22% vs. last year’s premiere night 1.92MM)

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/09/27...e-digits/65350

[DTX3]

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Baller.

(10 char.)

[bill2451]

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The series seems to be setting up for a season 6 ending... the one thing I would hate to see would be for the series to go too long (maybe because of pressure from Showtime w/ such high ratings) that the story becomes dull. This is one of those shows that should end on the writers terms, with their vision, and not be forced to do something they don't want to

all that said, I really enjoyed the premier. Picked up w/ the quality right where it left off imo (that bathroom scene was very powerful imo... first when he killed that guy, that was one of the first times I've really looked at Dexter in a different light and though "man, that guy is scary", and then right after that where he collapses to the floor and you immediately feel pity for him). Just a great scene with very competing emotions (which is at the heart of the series)

[Seymour Scagnetti]

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I would be incredibly suprised if the series ends with Dexter getting caught and going to death row. It would just be what everyone is expecting and that now would seem like a cheap ending. With the tone of the show being dark and satirical I see more of a Silence of the Lambs type ending where all hope is lost for Dex and he somehow escapes and rides off into the sunset like Anthony Hopkins.

I know everyone is seeing another Doakes scenario with Quinn discovering Dex's secret but the show has seemed to have given clues regarding Quinn and that something is not right with him and he might have some dark side to him and not what he appears to be.

I think the writers have given us clues with that short Asian chick who was talking to Deb in season 3 and being very cryptic about Quinn and how that sideplot ended abruptly and not really fully explained. Then you have Quinn taking that money from the drawer and last but not least he was banging Trinity's daughter for awhile so who knows what she confided to him in private that they didn't show onscreen and now he seems to be trying to get close to Deb.

Here's my way out prediction on how this season and next year's season ends. We find out that Quinn is some sadistic prick but ends up getting away at season's end so Dex can't kill him. Next year's final season ends with Dex escaping from the cops somehow after getting arrested and in the very last scene and in a tribute to a Lambs' type ending he is in a foreign country on the phone with Deb telling her to take her of his son (Deb follows in Harry's footsteps about teaching Harrison about the code because she is now his guardian) because he has to go away forever now but first has some unfinished business to take care of and you see Quinn in the background unaware that Dex has found him. Would be one hell of a ending to me.

[Burns11]

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I kind of think I would like to see Dexter kill himself, kind of the ultimate coup de grace for the vigilante serial killer to kill the most prolific uncaught serial killer.