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  • PhilliesFan13
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    • May 2009
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    #2566
    Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

    Originally posted by authentic
    Finally got the Sony 4k and MartinLogan speakers, along with my Oppo and other devices hooked up today. I'm pretty blown away by the upscaling and picture quality out of the box. I'll try post some pictures sometime this week.
    Saw 4K on display at Best Buy a few weeks ago. Looked really awesome. Would love to see the picture on a calibrated set.

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    • authentic
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      • Jul 2009
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      #2567
      Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

      Originally posted by PhilliesFan13
      Saw 4K on display at Best Buy a few weeks ago. Looked really awesome. Would love to see the picture on a calibrated set.
      I will say that there will be very few adjustments. I hooked up a sensor and did a couple tests, there is almost no adjusting to be made. To be honest, you really don't need to calibrate these. I will take a couple pictures of the TV, speakers, Oppo, and receiver so you guys can see this stuff. The Oppo is awesome, if you haven't heard of it, research it. All this company makes is blurays.
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      • Blzer
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        • Mar 2004
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        #2568
        Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

        Originally posted by authentic
        I will say that there will be very few adjustments. I hooked up a sensor and did a couple tests, there is almost no adjusting to be made. To be honest, you really don't need to calibrate these. I will take a couple pictures of the TV, speakers, Oppo, and receiver so you guys can see this stuff. The Oppo is awesome, if you haven't heard of it, research it. All this company makes is blurays.
        Before I do, can you give me a change to post at least one pic of my newly calibrated F8500 in our family room? No one is going to care about mine if you post yours.

        lol
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        • authentic
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          • Jul 2009
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          #2569
          Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

          Originally posted by Blzer
          Before I do, can you give me a change to post at least one pic of my newly calibrated F8500 in our family room? No one is going to care about mine if you post yours.

          lol
          lol

          Don't believe this post! That is probably a tie for the best looking 1080p tv on the market. Even though it is crappy "HD"

          I'm just kidding...when talking to Sony reps, we were talking about the difference in say the 80" 857u Sharp and the Sony 4k, and somewhere in there they mentioned that 1080p is just terrible...I thought it was kind of funny at the time, yet kind of true after seeing the upscaling this tv has. Samsung really impressed me with their plasma line this year though, very nice tv's. Although, I've still heard and seen in some cases that the VT and ZT handle ambient light a little better...what do you think?
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          • Blzer
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            • Mar 2004
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            #2570
            Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

            Originally posted by authentic
            lol

            Don't believe this post! That is probably a tie for the best looking 1080p tv on the market. Even though it is crappy "HD"

            I'm just kidding...when talking to Sony reps, we were talking about the difference in say the 80" 857u Sharp and the Sony 4k, and somewhere in there they mentioned that 1080p is just terrible...I thought it was kind of funny at the time, yet kind of true after seeing the upscaling this tv has. Samsung really impressed me with their plasma line this year though, very nice tv's. Although, I've still heard and seen in some cases that the VT and ZT handle ambient light a little better...what do you think?
            I did extensive research for this TV for the past few months. The end decision had a lot to do with the higher peak whites on the Samsung for our family room. The VT60 is pretty reflective. The ZT60 not so much, but it's the darkest of the three as well.

            I saw the Sony at BB. 4K is gorgeous, but for me it will be unneeded for quite some time. I don't think it's going to win people over unless everything (the TV's, players, and media) become cheaper than Blu-ray is now because of diminishing returns on these TV sizes. Not saying we don't appreciate the difference, but many won't for the price.

            I just don't think it will touch what HD and Blu-ray did.
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            • authentic
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              • Jul 2009
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              #2571
              Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

              Originally posted by Blzer
              I did extensive research for this TV for the past few months. The end decision had a lot to do with the higher peak whites on the Samsung for our family room. The VT60 is pretty reflective. The ZT60 not so much, but it's the darkest of the three as well.

              I saw the Sony at BB. 4K is gorgeous, but for me it will be unneeded for quite some time. I don't think it's going to win people over unless everything (the TV's, players, and media) become cheaper than Blu-ray is now because of diminishing returns on these TV sizes. Not saying we don't appreciate the difference, but many won't for the price.

              I just don't think it will touch what HD and Blu-ray did.
              Yeah, right now it's a very select few that really appreciate what the Sony actually does. I'll tell you this though, The Show looks gorgeous upscaled, with minimal lag. With the 4k server, it's worth it right now. 4k movies are absolutely breath taking.
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              • authentic
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                • Jul 2009
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                #2572
                Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

                By the way, I just discovered that game mode on this tv turns off all processes except up conversion. Not going to lie, the up conversion still looks the same except the input lag is the same if not better than my Panny.
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                • WTF
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                  • Aug 2002
                  • 20274

                  #2573
                  Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

                  What is a good cheap projector for the basement man cave? We have the regular family tv, and our bedroom tv's, kid's rooms.
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                  • GAMEC0CK2002
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                    • Aug 2002
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                    #2574
                    Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

                    Originally posted by WTF
                    What is a good cheap projector for the basement man cave? We have the regular family tv, and our bedroom tv's, kid's rooms.
                    What's the budget?

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                    • WTF
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                      • Aug 2002
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                      #2575
                      Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

                      I'd say $700 or less. Not looking for state of the art, doesn't "have" to be 1080p even. This is just a "whim" purchase if I make it, something fun for the man cave.
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                      • GAMEC0CK2002
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                        • Aug 2002
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                        #2576
                        Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

                        Originally posted by WTF
                        I'd say $700 or less. Not looking for state of the art, doesn't "have" to be 1080p even. This is just a "whim" purchase if I make it, something fun for the man cave.
                        These are all 720p (1080p PJs start in the $850-900 and up)

                        The "experts" on AVS forums like the DLP PJs from BenQ ($605-2D and $610-3D on Amazon)...as well as those from Viewsonic and Epson
                        2D http://www.amazon.com/BenQ-W710ST-Sh...=operasport-20

                        3D http://www.amazon.com/BenQ-W770ST-Th...=operasport-20

                        If you want a brighter picture then go for a 3LCD projector like this Epson ($675 shipped)

                        http://www.amazon.com/Epson-V11H4750...=operasport-20

                        In the $400-500 range you can get a "business/presentation" PJ that has 1 HDMI that could function in a home theater. Then you would need an HDMI switcher if you have more than 1 HDMI source.

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                        • Chaos81
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                          • Mar 2004
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                          #2577
                          Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

                          My rear projection Mitsubishi died last week and I've been looking for a new TV. I'd love a plasma, but for my viewing habits, I'm not sure it's all that feasible.

                          My TV is on a sports channel probably 95% of the time it's on. By that I mean ESPN/MLBN/NFLN/FSN. Am I'm wrong for think I'll definitely end up with IR or burn-in? I know a little bit is probably expected, and I could probably deal with it, but I basically come home after class/work, throw the TV on one of the above channels, and then leave it there until I go to bed. Just based on what I've read, that seems like something I wouldn't be able to do with a plasma.

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                          • mgoblue
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                            • Jul 2002
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                            #2578
                            Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

                            Originally posted by Chaos81
                            My rear projection Mitsubishi died last week and I've been looking for a new TV. I'd love a plasma, but for my viewing habits, I'm not sure it's all that feasible.

                            My TV is on a sports channel probably 95% of the time it's on. By that I mean ESPN/MLBN/NFLN/FSN. Am I'm wrong for think I'll definitely end up with IR or burn-in? I know a little bit is probably expected, and I could probably deal with it, but I basically come home after class/work, throw the TV on one of the above channels, and then leave it there until I go to bed. Just based on what I've read, that seems like something I wouldn't be able to do with a plasma.
                            I haven't looked at tv's in a year or so (someone please correct me if I'm wrong), but I don't think burn-in is as big of an issue as it used to be....
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                            • Blzer
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                              • Mar 2004
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                              #2579
                              Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

                              I actually think IR is more prevalent in this year's models than the last two years.
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                                #2580
                                Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

                                Originally posted by Chaos81
                                Am I'm wrong for think I'll definitely end up with IR or burn-in?
                                Simply put, yes.

                                I've had my PN64D7000 for 26 months now and have had ZERO issues with IR or burn in and I leave static images on my screen for lengthy periods and leave sports channels on for hours at a time. Newer plasmas (since about 2010) don't have the issues that the ones ten years ago did.

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