Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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It was a LOOONG time ago in a galaxy far far away, they didn't have surveillance technology yet.

Then what about the other ship in the movie that does have surveillance technology? lol

(I assume your post is just kidding anyways, but this made me chuckle a bit during the movie)

[DonkeyJote]

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Went and saw it for a second time and decided to try to focus on

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the flashback scene when she grabs the lightsaber. I didn't notice Obi-Wan's voice the first time, but knowing to look for it this time, it was pretty obvious.

But I noticed two other bigger things:

1. It looked to me like Kylo Ren SAVES her during the attack on the Jedi Academy. It looked like someone was about to kill her and he stepped in and killed him instead.

2. I also tried to focus on who she was left with on Jakku. When I heard the guy say "Let go, girl" (or something along those lines), I knew I recognized the voice but it was driving me nuts where it came from. And then it hit me; I'm pretty positive it was the creature that she sells scavenged goods to.

This leads to a few more questions:

1. This would seem to indicate that it's Kylo Ren that leaves her on Jakku; not her parents. If that's the case, then you're left wondering if they are indeed related, and that that is why Kylo Ren steps in to save her. This would also allow the possibility that her parents believe her to be dead, and therefore, Luke, Leia, Han, or whoever the parents are might not recognize her at first (especially Han since he isn't force sensitive). The alternative is that Rey was the youngest of the group and Kylo Ren, still having the internal battle between light and dark, had a moment of mercy and saved the little girl and then left her on Jakku, assuming that she would never be a problem without training.

2. If Kylo Ren saves her and drops her off on Jakku, how does Snoke not know about it? In the novel, it appears that Kylo Ren recognizes Rey and keeps asking her if she is anything more than a scavenger to confirm what he already suspects. Later in the book, when she force-grabs the lightsaber, it finally confirms his suspicions and he says "It IS you." At the same time though, he insists to Snoke that she's just a scavenger. Snoke senses that Kylo Ren feels attached to her, but if he knew that Kylo Ren saved her and dropped her off on Jakku, wouldn't he put two and two together?

3. Is it just coincidence that the guy that Rey is left with also happens to get his hands on the Millenium Falcon?

4. Who exactly is this creature (I guess his name is Unkar Plutt), and how is he chosen to be the person that Rey is left with?

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I don't know, I feel like if people knew Luke had a daughter and that she was dumped off somewhere, Han/Leia/Kylo Ren would be searching for her. Seems pretty weak to me that they'd just be like "Oh, alright." And then forget she ever existed.

Who said they didn't look for her? There's thousands of systems out there. But it's been 15 years. They probably assumed the worst. Or were told she was dead from the get go. Also, Han and Leia are dealing with their son turning to the darkside. I can actually totally get on board with the Kylo took her thing. He does react, strongly, when he finds out Finn escaped with a scavenger from Jakku, I believe.

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[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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Who said they didn't look for her? There's thousands of systems out there. But it's been 15 years. They probably assumed the worst. Or were told she was dead from the get go. Also, Han and Leia are dealing with their son turning to the darkside. I can actually totally get on board with the Kylo took her thing. He does react, strongly, when he finds out Finn escaped with a scavenger from Jakku, I believe.

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Yeah, I think after watching it last night, I'm on board with the idea that it's Kylo Ren that takes her, in which case the parents (whoever they are) probably have no idea she was spared, so I could see that opening up the possibility of her parents not recognizing her, at least initially.

[greenegt]

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Finally saw it last night with my wife. We loved the movie. Great characters and great fun. Really well acted. Can't wait to see Rey and Kylo's backstories get fleshed out. Glad we don't have too long of a wait for episode viii.

[aukevin]

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I just didn't buy her diverting the shields that easily. Especially with Finn ordering her around. She should be pissed at him, but I felt nothing in that scene.

That scene was really the only thing in the movie that I disliked. It was weak and I thought her character was totally a letdown. I'm hoping she made it out of the trash compactor and has a showdown with Finn. I'm not sure where Finn's story really goes, I would guess it would be revenge against the First Order and I think him hunting for Phasma would be a good storyline.

[Stormyhog]

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New Imax posters.

[The JareBear]

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I agree with a lot of what is being said about Phasma. I definitely do not quite understand whats her purpose was in this film

[DonkeyJote]

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I agree with a lot of what is being said about Phasma. I definitely do not quite understand whats her purpose was in this film

She may have a bigger part moving foward. But I think it may be to try and establish another Boba Fett character, who was much more popular than his role probably justified. I mean, we're getting a Boba Fett movie before we get an Obi-Wan movie or a resolution to Darth Maul.

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[Candyman5]

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She may have a bigger part moving foward. But I think it may be to try and establish another Boba Fett character, who was much more popular than his role probably justified. I mean, we're getting a Boba Fett movie before we get an Obi-Wan movie or a resolution to Darth Maul.

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Be cool if they make Darth Maul movie like his clone wars cartoon story. The character needs it.

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I'm actually really interested in General Hux's story. A young (way too young to be a general anyway) overly ambitious general who the "Supreme Leader" seems to respect more than his own apprentice. Interesting...

[jack1535]

Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens

I'm actually really interested in General Hux's story. A young (way too young to be a general anyway) overly ambitious general who the "Supreme Leader" seems to respect more than his own apprentice. Interesting...

I loved the scene of his speech to the First Order Army

[SinisterAlex]

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The screenplay was released for The Force Awakens today:

http://www.slashfilm.com/star-wars-the-force-awakens-ending/

Luke Skywalker’s Planet
The script gives a name for the planet that we find Luke Skywalker on at the end of the film. The planet is referred to as “AHCH-TO” in this official script. The planet is described as having a “pristine and mighty OCEAN” with “endless BLUE, dotted with random, beautiful, mountainous BLACK ROCK ISLANDS, dotted with countless GREEN TREES.”

Interestingly Ahch-to is not a known planet in all of Star Wars lore, but “Ahch” is a Hebrew word meaning “brother.” Is this somehow a subtle way of suggesting that Luke is somehow her brother? How would that be possible? It could also speak towards Leia sending Rey to find her brother on this planet. It might also be a placeholder name — I could see them using it to stand in for “Act 2” as this moment leads to the second act of this sequel trilogy.

Luke Skywalker Immediately Knows Who Rey Is and Why She Is Here
The script describes Luke Skywalker as being older now, with white hair and a beard. It says that he looks at Rey with a “kindness in his eyes, but there’s something tortured, too.” Most interestingly, it says that Luke “doesn’t need to ask her who she is, or what she is doing here.” Does this mean that he knows Rey is his child? Or does this mean that he knows because of the Force? The script only adds that “his look says it all.”

After Rey pulls Luke’s lightsaber from her pack, the script describes her holding it out to him as “An offer. A plea. The galaxy’s only hope.” And of course the script ends on “HOLD ON LUKE SKYWALKER’S INCREDIBLE FACE, amazed and conflicted at what he sees, as our MUSIC BUILDS, the promise of an adventure, just beginning…” It’s interesting that the script says Luke is both amazed and conflicted.

Rey’s Vision Confirmations
The screenplay confirms a bunch of the imagery that we see in the vision Rey experiences when she touches Luke Skywalker’s lightsaber:

- We pretty much knew that the first image is that of a hallway in Cloud City, but this script confirms it, calling it “a hallway of from deep inside Cloud City” and mentions a “mechanical breathing sound” and also that “disembodied voices fill the air.”

- Some people have argued that the image of Luke Skywalker and R2-D2 was not from the attack on Skywalker’s new Jedi Training Academy, but the script confirms that we “see a BURNING TEMPLE AT NIGHT” in the background.

- As for the man stabbed with a lightsaber, some fans have incorrectly identified that as Constable Zuvio, but we’ve previously debunked that claim. The script says that it is “A WARRIOR” who is stabbed by “A FIERY LIGHTSABER!”

-And while we have assumed that the men around Kylo Ren in this vision are the Knights of Ren, the screenplay officially confirms this: “We PIVOT AROUND HER to REVEAL KYLO REN, and the six other KNIGHTS OF REN, who flank him!”

Young Rey Is Left With Unkar Plutt
Most interesting, the screenplay confirms that is is in fact Simon Pegg‘s character Unkar Plutt who is seen next to young Rey when she is abandoned on Jakku. Many people, including us, thought that looked like his arm, but this makes it official.

The script says, “A little girl. Rey as a child. She is sobbing, hysterical. Unkar Plutt’s meaty hand holds her thin arm. She is on Jakku, watching a starship fly into the sky, abandoning her.” Rey yells, “No, come back!” and Unkar Plutt responds, “Quiet, girl!” as the “ship flies towards the desert sun, which is strangely eclipsed, as if being eaten by darkness.”

This is very interesting, because why was Rey left with Unkar Plutt on Jakku? Earlier in the film her relationship with the alien junk dealer seems to be strictly business. Is it possible that Unkar Plutt got the Millennium Falcon from Han Solo in exchange for watching Rey as a child?

But if that’s the case, why doesn’t Han Solo seem like he knows who she is when he first encounters her? It’s possible that he had a homing beacon on the ship for if it ever took off from Jakku, and only realizes that Rey is his daughter when she mentions her name as they are preparing to enter Maz Kanata’s castle. This is when Han offers her a job on the Falcon.

Then again, Rey says earlier in the film that Unkar Plutt stole the Falcon from “the Irving Boys, who stole it from Ducain.” Apparently in the Journey to the Force Awakens book Smuggler’s Run, Han Solo tells a bunch of bounty hunters to tell Ducain and the Irving boys that he and Chewbacca are not afraid of them, which suggests Ducain and the Irving boys really did steal the Falcon. Meaning the famous ship was not payment from Solo to take care of young Rey.

Kylo Ren Is Horrified By His Actions
The script gives us some internal insight into Kylo Ren after he just killed his father Han Solo. The screenplay notes that “Kylo Ren is somehow WEAKENED by this wicked act,” noting that he is “horrified” and his “SHOCK is broken only when” Chewbacca cries out in agony.

In the official novelization it is revealed that Snoke tells Kylo that Darth Vader’s one weakness was his love for his son Luke Skywalker, and if it were not for that one flaw, the Dark Side would have won.

It’s interesting that killing his father was supposed to make Kylo Ren stronger, but in the end it just made him feel weaker.

Rey Feels the Pull of the Dark Side
During the lightsaber duel at the end of the story, the screenplay gives us some insight into what’s going on inside Rey’s head during the end of this big battle. As Rey slashes Kylo again and again with Luke Skywalker’s lightsaber, the script says that as Ren goes down, suddenly he is “a fearful man, a large burn scar slashed across his face.”

As he reaches for his saber, the screenplay adds: “And she could kill him — right now, with ONE VICIOUS STRIKE! But she stops. Realizing she stands on a greater edge than even the cliff — the edge of the dark side. The earth SHAKES. The earth splits. A gully forms.” Its interesting that Rey also feels the internal pull of the dark side in this moment.

In the official novelization, Rey actually hears a voice insider her head say “Kill him.” The voice is described as “amorphous, unidentifiable, raw” and “powered by “pure vengeful emotion.” But the audio book seems to reveal it’s the voice of Supreme Leader Snoke.

[tdawg3782]

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The screenplay was released for The Force Awakens today:

http://www.slashfilm.com/star-wars-t...wakens-ending/

Wow that's some really good info. Love it.

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[Smallville102001]

Re: Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens

The screenplay was released for The Force Awakens today:

http://www.slashfilm.com/star-wars-t...wakens-ending/

That is some interesting stuff and the part about Rey and Snoke and the dark side pull thing makes me want to see episode 8 even more!

[Trent Booty]

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So, during my winter break, me and my girlfriend watched episodes I-VI with my dad, mom, brother and his girlfriend.

Me, my dad, and to a lesser extent, my brother, are all Star Wars fans. Me and my dad, are HUGE fans.

Me, my girlfriend, my brother and his girlfriend saw this on the 30th of Dec. and I loved every second of it. I might like it better than all of the previous six.

I absolutely fell in love with Rey, and BB-8. Finn also captured my admiration as a funny/goofy guy.

One of my favorite parts is when he calls Han Solo "Solo" and he looks at him and says "did you just call me 'solo'?" I don't know why but I laughed really, really hard at that.

I nearly, NEARLY cried when Ren killed his father. (Screw spoilers, it's been out long enough)

It was already spoiled to me that Han dies at the hands of Kylo Ren. I didn't know that they were father and son, though. Some ****er just put the words "Kylo Ren kills Han Solo" as his emblem on Black Ops 3... Lol

I didn't know if it was fully true though, because I had Fallout 4 spoiled, only to realize it wasn't actually what happens and people were fake-spoiling it.

All in all, it was an awesome movie. One theory I read about in an article that was... interesting to say the least was that Finn and Poe are gay.

It talks about their hug when they reunite and how Finn wears his jacket passionately or some crap like that. I don't have a link to the article but a search using key words would easily find it I'm sure.

Although another theory I saw on Twitter made a lot more sense and had a lot more to do with the plot.

I'll let a picture represent what I mean. Look at the scars.