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  • shugknight
    MVP
    • Oct 2004
    • 4585

    #166
    Re: Survivor: Cagayan — Brawn vs. Brains vs. Beauty

    I don't think it's that easy to find the idol, but I do believe there are too many of them. The rule of bringing them back is definitely overkill with the situation. They need to stick with 1 Super Idol or 2 regular Idols. Once those are gone, it's gone for good.

    However... at the same time, bringing back these idols also makes for great suspense on the show. Just like the last vote, if the idol wasn't replayed by Spencer, he would have easily been going home because the other alliance would have wrote his name down without any danger of him possibly playing an idol.

    And the reason why these major players like Russell, Tyson or Tony always find an idol is because they are outplaying the competition by going out and continuously searching until they find it. They're outwitting the competition by finding the idol without giving the suspicion that they even started searching for it.

    How many times in past seasons have you seen a minor player look for the idol, and after searching and not finding anything they give up? What's worst are the players who go searching for the idol knowing that they're next on the chopping block, so of course other players get suspicious of them.

    And these are edited for a reason. Do you really want to see Kass or Jethra lazily look for the idol and not find anything for 5 minutes of the show? Or do you want to see a paranoid, crazy looking fool like Tony digging through dirt and trees looking for it?

    If you heard Tony, and this is the reason why he's considered a major player, he's smart and he knows the game. He says "They always hide the immunity idol on some weird looking structure like a tree or something"

    So he goes and searches through a few trees that he knew about and found nothing. Then when he goes for a walk, he finds that odd looking tree and yes miraculously found it.

    Like they say, if you want to be good at something, you have to work for it. Tony has worked for it. The other players like Kass, Jethra, Jeremiah sat there waiting to be Top 3.

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    • Majingir
      Moderator
      • Apr 2005
      • 47523

      #167
      Re: Survivor: Cagayan — Brawn vs. Brains vs. Beauty

      From a recent interview:
      PROBST: First let me correct you, we did not merge early because of the early fail of the Brain tribe. The merge almost always falls around the same spot.
      That's the problem with Survivor. Things becoming so predictable and the merge happens at same times and it's annoying. They really need to fix this up. Have merge at points in the game people can't predict. If people are like "__ more tribals until the merge so we can plan for that" then it obviously makes the game less fun, but if people don't know what to expect at any moment, it makes things more fun. While past few seasons have been good, unpredictability is what made earlier seasons of the show so good. People didn't know when exactly the merge would happen or anything like that, so they had to just play the game instead of being like "We can plan for ___ days down the road because we know when things are happening"

      But I really wonder if that's the truth or not. Because at this past reward challenge, notice the 2 boats were painted to represent the Brawn and Beauty tribe(their tribe names are on the boats too), so maybe that one was supposed to happen before the merge.

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      • Majingir
        Moderator
        • Apr 2005
        • 47523

        #168
        Re: Survivor: Cagayan — Brawn vs. Brains vs. Beauty

        BREAKING NEWS!

        Survivor season finale for the first time in 12 years it'll air on a weekday(Wednesday)! Date seems to be Wednesday May 21st!

        Really don't know why the change considering that ever since Survivor had been given the regular 2 seasons per TV year schedule, it's always been a finale on Sunday.

        So many shows have season or series finales at such strange times lately. Wonder why Survivor got pushed to a Wednesday finale.

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        • jeremym480
          Speak it into existence
          • Oct 2008
          • 18198

          #169
          Re: Survivor: Cagayan — Brawn vs. Brains vs. Beauty

          Good. Sunday is Game of Thrones and Mad Men night. Now I can watch the finale the night of and don't have to avoid the internet until I can see it.

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          • Majingir
            Moderator
            • Apr 2005
            • 47523

            #170
            Re: Survivor: Cagayan — Brawn vs. Brains vs. Beauty

            Based on episode preview for the season finale, looks like the episode will start with:
            (both spoiler tags are just numbers,I obviously don't know/want to know who finishes where)

            Spoiler
            remaining players

            meaning the final tribal will consist of

            Spoiler
            players

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            • l3ulvl
              Hall Of Fame
              • Dec 2009
              • 17234

              #171
              Re: Survivor: Cagayan — Brawn vs. Brains vs. Beauty

              Damn, how did LJ suddenly get so old?
              Wolverines Wings Same Old Lions Tigers Pistons Erika Christensen

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              • kingkilla56
                Hall Of Fame
                • Jun 2009
                • 19395

                #172
                Re: Survivor: Cagayan — Brawn vs. Brains vs. Beauty

                So does Tony have two idols? I missed a segment and saw him flaunting one. This season has gotten really boring in recent weeks with super Tony.
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                • ~LiverpoolRed~
                  YNWA
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 10755

                  #173
                  Re: Survivor: Cagayan — Brawn vs. Brains vs. Beauty

                  Originally posted by Majingir
                  BREAKING NEWS!

                  Survivor season finale for the first time in 12 years it'll air on a weekday(Wednesday)! Date seems to be Wednesday May 21st!

                  Really don't know why the change considering that ever since Survivor had been given the regular 2 seasons per TV year schedule, it's always been a finale on Sunday.

                  So many shows have season or series finales at such strange times lately. Wonder why Survivor got pushed to a Wednesday finale.
                  Maybe they didn't want to be on at the same time as the Amazing Race finale on Sunday the 18th? Thus pushing it to the following Wednesday.

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                  • SuperBowlNachos
                    All Star
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 10218

                    #174
                    Re: Survivor: Cagayan — Brawn vs. Brains vs. Beauty

                    Originally posted by kingkilla56
                    So does Tony have two idols? I missed a segment and saw him flaunting one. This season has gotten really boring in recent weeks with super Tony.
                    Yep. He has the super idol and the regular.

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                    • kingkilla56
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 19395

                      #175
                      Re: Survivor: Cagayan — Brawn vs. Brains vs. Beauty

                      Goodness. Well if he doesnt make the final now, i'd be shocked. I gott give him credit, whenever it looks like hes doing too much, he finds yet another idol. They really need to do something about this new idol every day thing they've been doing.
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                      • shugknight
                        MVP
                        • Oct 2004
                        • 4585

                        #176
                        Re: Survivor: Cagayan — Brawn vs. Brains vs. Beauty

                        Even with 2 idols, it won't matter. I forgot the cut off date. I think it's when theres 5 players left is the final time you can use the idol, so even if he has 2, he still has to get to the final 3.

                        The fact that he's not strong in challenges, makes me believe he'll be easy to vote out after the idols can't be played anymore.

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                        • Majingir
                          Moderator
                          • Apr 2005
                          • 47523

                          #177
                          Re: Survivor: Cagayan — Brawn vs. Brains vs. Beauty

                          He's good in challenges, the problem is that Survivor in past few years has been mostly about endurance and puzzles than strength. So many challenges are balancing on something or balancing something or solving some sort of puzzle or maze or something. I remember in the old days, they had Colby dominate cause of the types of physical challenges they had. I believe that record still stands for most challenges won in a season or something.


                          I don't get Tonys logic though. He didn't want to get rid of Spencer because of a potential girls alliance? If Spencer got voted out and the girls alliance did form, assuming neither Tony or Woo won immunity,Tony could just give Woo the regular idol, Woo plays it,and if girls alliance forms and they vote Woo, votes bounce back and Tony/Woo votes are the ones which matter and Tony keeps his idol. If they voted Tony,then Tony just uses his idol after being voted out,saves himself, and whoever Tony/Woo voted out ends up going(and that'd actually be the worst scenario in all of this which is still a huge win for Woo/Tony)

                          Yes, they'd still be down 3-2 after that scenario,but in Survivor you know anything can happen and girls alliance surely wouldn't stick together after that(especially since you know Kass,Trish or Jefra would've flipped easily if the final 5 was the 3 girls,Woo and Tony)

                          I just hope so badly the finals don't consist of at least 2 of Trish,Kass,Tasha. That would ruin this season having such a horrible ending like that. Based on gameplay,the order of who deserves to win is:

                          1.Tony
                          2.Spencer
                          3.Tasha
                          4.Woo
                          5.Trish
                          6.Kass
                          Last edited by Majingir; 05-01-2014, 11:22 PM.

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                          • kingkilla56
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 19395

                            #178
                            Re: Survivor: Cagayan — Brawn vs. Brains vs. Beauty

                            I think Woo is a pretty lame player. Hes a lap dog for whatever Tony wants. He buys anything Tony says. Its sad. At least it looks like he nuts up in the previews. Even though trying to take out Tony is futile for the next couple eliminations at least.
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                            • Majingir
                              Moderator
                              • Apr 2005
                              • 47523

                              #179
                              Re: Survivor: Cagayan — Brawn vs. Brains vs. Beauty

                              Woo hasn't really done much in the season,but I still like him way better than everyone else remaining minus Tony. I'd expect Kass to be voted out next week. Even if they vote Tony,he obviously won't go home cause of the special idol. Unless something crazy happens,Tony is guaranteed top 4.

                              Unfortunately, I think we might be in for one horrible jury. By the looks of it,Sarah and Morgan seem like they are voting 100% based on relationships and who they like over who deserves to win.

                              Originally posted by ~LiverpoolRed~
                              Maybe they didn't want to be on at the same time as the Amazing Race finale on Sunday the 18th? Thus pushing it to the following Wednesday.
                              I'm surprised Amazing Race is ending on the 18th, but I guess with Olympics delaying things a week and then another week off due to March Madness, it pushed everything around abit. Cause usually Amazing Race would end the Sunday before Survivors Sunday finale.

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                              • p_rushing
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Feb 2004
                                • 14514

                                #180
                                Re: Survivor: Cagayan — Brawn vs. Brains vs. Beauty

                                Tony can control what happens in the game and determine the Final 4 if he plays it right.

                                Tony should not play an idol next tribal. The normal idol actually has more game value (if he has to use them when they are down to 5). He could play 1 idol each week, so the special one keeps him safe next tribal. If he doesn't get voted out, he has the normal idol to give away.

                                Setting up a 2 vs 2 final 4.

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