True Detective (Season Two)

[JayBee74]

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Yea...cartels are known for their integrity, they got that part real wrong here right....?????

That's not at all what I'm talking about. Frank traded a sweet deal for the Mexicans for some info from the girl. The girl gives some of it over the phone, but Frank needs her to identify the person of interest from some photos. The Mexicans act in bad faith by killing the girl, because she was "working with cops". Why didn't the Mexicans allow her to identify the individual from the photos, and then kill her? Why antagonize your criminal partner when you don't have to? Why give up good will, when you have a sweet 100% of drug profits in someone else's two clubs for a whole year?

[dsallupinyaarea]

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I was also completely lost at Woodrugh and Velcoro's role at the party. They went with the intent of keeping an eye on Ani I guess (and give her a ride home?) - how are you going to do that in a mansion with who knows how many rooms?

Then they decide to attack a security guard for reasons unknown to me and happen to stroll up to a window where an important conversation is happening, then break in and steal some important documents. Was their plan to stick their head in every window until they got a glimpse of Ani just to see if she's alright?

Then Ani kills a security guard and manages to walk out the front door while carrying a mostly-unconscious woman with her? WTF?

It's as if Pizzolatto threw up his hands and said, "if i show boobs, no one will ask questions."

[pietasterp]

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That's not at all what I'm talking about. Frank traded a sweet deal for the Mexicans for some info from the girl. The girl gives some of it over the phone, but Frank needs her to identify the person of interest from some photos. The Mexicans act in bad faith by killing the girl, because she was "working with cops". Why didn't the Mexicans allow her to identify the individual from the photos, and then kill her? Why antagonize your criminal partner when you don't have to? Why give up good will, when you have a sweet 100% of drug profits in someone else's two clubs for a whole year?

I didn't get that either...unless there's more to that story - i.e. the Mexicans were involved in the Caspere thing somehow - no reason to kill that girl before Frank can talk to her. Maybe we'll have to wait to see if that makes sense or not.

[JayBee74]

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I didn't get that either...unless there's more to that story - i.e. the Mexicans were involved in the Caspere thing somehow - no reason to kill that girl before Frank can talk to her. Maybe we'll have to wait to see if that makes sense or not.

Hmmm...that could be it, and would actually make some sense.

[KG]

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I can't watch another scene between Vince Vaughn and his wife. They are excruciating. Half of what VV does is standing up, buttoning his suit coat and walking out the door and the other half is pouring himself a drink. The actress playing his wife seems like she can't believe how bad the lines are that she has to read.

I had high hopes for VV in this series but it's been worse than I thought possible. A big part of it is the writing but man, it's just awful. I thought VV could pull of a dark/serious character but I keep seeing flashes of his Wedding Crashers character whenever he tries to get serious in a dialogue sequence. The table scene last night w/ Farrell didn't have an ounce of tension to it.

I loved S1 and thought the writing was pretty solid but maybe it was more MM and WH that saved it with their acting. I'll need to rewatch it next month. S2 has been bad on every front except IMO for Farrell's character IMO, as cliche as Velcoro may be.

See I thought/think the opposite. Velcoro is so cliche and I can almost see Farrell trying so hard to play the part that it just doesn't come off.

I'm 100% bias in not liking Farrell from the start though. It's hard for me to put a finger on it but he's just one of those actors where I can tell he's acting.

[slickdtc]

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I didn't get that either...unless there's more to that story - i.e. the Mexicans were involved in the Caspere thing somehow - no reason to kill that girl before Frank can talk to her. Maybe we'll have to wait to see if that makes sense or not.

Maybe they thought Frank had something to do with the shootout since Ray was involved? Ray being a cop, and them clearly not being fans... Dunno if the dudes that got shot up in the shootout were with the Mexican cartel or not.

[pietasterp]

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Maybe they thought Frank had something to do with the shootout since Ray was involved? Ray being a cop, and them clearly not being fans... Dunno if the dudes that got shot up in the shootout were with the Mexican cartel or not.

Yeah, it's all very confusing. You really shouldn't need a primer just to watch a show...

http://www.buzzfeed.com/kirstenking/im-so-confused#.ko48kgxzP

Things really should be more coherent.

[CMH]

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Glad I'm not the only one confused. I figured maybe my enjoyment level is low because I'm having trouble following the story.

But I've read one review asking "uh, what's happening?" And it's from a reviewer that always amazes me with his knowledge on the subject he's writing. Now you guys are sharing confusion.

Really, what the hell happened last night? Why did any of it have to happen?

It felt like it was exactly what a poor writer would do in planning a scenario in which he needed important information to get into the hands of his main characters.

Nic demonstrated that he wrote himself into a wall (don't know how when he has so much time to write this series) and just needed something to move the plot.

I nearly gave up but now I want to see if there's any explanation to all this.

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[jb12780]

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I was amazed someone tripping on Molly was able to kill 2 people and drag another tripping on Molly out of that house without anyone noticing.

Somehow the two goons with pistols couldn't get a hit on anyone.

I'm enjoying the show, but there were moments in that episode which made me say, WTF.

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[justblaze09]

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I knew that scene went into "WTF mode" as soon as I noticed the background music.

[JODYE]

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Okay, I can't lie, I became supremely lost in regards to Irina Rulfo.

I thought Irina was the same chick who was reported missing in the very beginning of the show. Then it turns out it is this Vera chick.

Can someone please help me out here?

[Bmore Irish]

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Okay, I can't lie, I became supremely lost in regards to Irina Rulfo.

I thought Irina was the same chick who was reported missing in the very beginning of the show. Then it turns out it is this Vera chick.

Can someone please help me out here?

One of them is the girl who was missing early on, one of them is the girl who pawned the diamonds for the Mexican pimp/meth dealer they ended up shooting up. I think the former is the girl Ani found at the party, and the latter is the girl the Mexican cartel killed when meeting with Frank. Can't remember which name goes with who.

[JBH3]

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That's not at all what I'm talking about. Frank traded a sweet deal for the Mexicans for some info from the girl. The girl gives some of it over the phone, but Frank needs her to identify the person of interest from some photos. The Mexicans act in bad faith by killing the girl, because she was "working with cops". Why didn't the Mexicans allow her to identify the individual from the photos, and then kill her? Why antagonize your criminal partner when you don't have to? Why give up good will, when you have a sweet 100% of drug profits in someone else's two clubs for a whole year?

I didn't get that either...unless there's more to that story - i.e. the Mexicans were involved in the Caspere thing somehow - no reason to kill that girl before Frank can talk to her. Maybe we'll have to wait to see if that makes sense or not.

I think that the cartel guys are either involved with crow headed dude who shot velcoro, the bloody shack, and the killing of Casper or they are just evil SOBs who want the business they lost when Frank took the club back from the dude whose teeth he pulled out and as a show of their violence/authority/clout they used the killing of that girl to show they are not to be trifled with...I mean Frank didn't receive them that well the first time they ever meet. I don't think they were willing to let bygones be bygones in a business that controls its interest through fear.

[JBH3]

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One of them is the girl who was missing early on, one of them is the girl who pawned the diamonds for the Mexican pimp/meth dealer they ended up shooting up. I think the former is the girl Ani found at the party, and the latter is the girl the Mexican cartel killed when meeting with Frank. Can't remember which name goes with who.

I thought the missing girl was Kitsch's girlfriend until desiredes fingers her as her missing person.

[JODYE]

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One of them is the girl who was missing early on, one of them is the girl who pawned the diamonds for the Mexican pimp/meth dealer they ended up shooting up. I think the former is the girl Ani found at the party, and the latter is the girl the Mexican cartel killed when meeting with Frank. Can't remember which name goes with who.

I believe Vera is the missing girl. Irina is the girl who pawned Casper's stuff. I guess the confusion for me came when in a previous episode, the "killer" or so we think, sent the package along with the pictures of blue diamonds to the sister of Vera.

I don't ever remember being introduced to Irina visually. Did this happen? Or did we only get a name?