Your opinions in Music that many would disagree with

[Dog]

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Agree:

Aladdin
Get Rich or Die Tryin'
That Eminem Movie

I was thinking more along the lines of Inception, 300, more instrumental type music

Inception.

Although I've never sat and listened to the actual soundtrack. Just judging from the movie itself.

It is incredible.

[Stroehms]

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Also, am I in the minority that absolutely hates Hollywood Undead?

[Po Pimp]

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To me, "Thriller" is not Michael's best work. That honor goes to "Off the Wall".

I can't really say one is better than the other. To me, they're both equal. I think with Thriller, it's the fact that we've heard those songs many times for years, so u get tired of them after a while, even though they're classic. "Human Nature" is probably my favorite MJ song ever. Off the Wall was a GREAT album, more true to his roots, but one song on there I never really messed with was "Burn this Disco Out."

I feel like I missed out on this discussion, but would like to put my 2 cents in. All of this "keep it real" stuff irks me to no end. I don't care if a rapper is "real". I don't care how "hardcore they are". I don't even care if they live what they rap about. Nas was a storyteller who reinvented himself time and again. He didn't live half of what he wrote. He's still my second favorite rapper and arguably the greatest to do it.

Pac was one of the greatest actors I've ever seen. The fake most of the time. Dude was a dancer, an actor, a poet and not nearly as hard as he tried to be. Pac was the quintessential good boy trying to be bad, creating controversy just for the hell of it. I was never a fan, but he's another example of a legend from back in the day bringing the fake.

The Game is an example of someone today who is fake as hell, but I love the guy's music. I don't care if he lives what he writes, the guy makes good music. Keeping it real or not.

Finally, for every Rakim, you have a Lupe. For every Soulja you have a Vanilla Ice. There is great music today and there was crappy music back then, so the "back in the day" argument just sounds like a bunch of bitterness to me, which sucks because with a name like Illmatic I automatically want to agree with you (and BnG, who is a poster I respect on here a hell of a lot). One thing I can say is the overall quality was probably better then, but there is still so much good music in the genre today. To me, the keeping it real aspect of it has little to do with it though.

I guess that's the point of this thread though. To disagree.

I agree with mostly everything you said except the bolded. How was Pac fake? Was it because he went to the Baltimore School of Performing Arts and spoke intelligently as a teenager? Did you forget the fact that he was dirt poor and that his mom was strung out on crack? A harsh life can turn anyone out. Pac never claimed to be some drug dealer. He admitted trying it for a week or 2, until the drug dealers told them it wasn't for him and to stick to rapping. I think a lot of the decisions he made were the results of growing up in a single parent home and not having a male role model in his life, but I've never heard or seen him lie about any aspect of his life. Did he contradict himself? Sure, we all have, but as far as making complete fabrications, no way. He's not Rick Ross. Pac was probably the realest rapper we've ever had, which is why he's so beloved now.

Even with your Nas comment, it doesn't matter if he lived what he talked about. Nas is a story teller like you said, and never claimed to be some big time kingpin like other rappers (i.e. Jay-Z, Rick Ross). Just because he didn't actually live it doesn't mean he wasn't around it or unfamiliar with it, because he clearly was.

[koebner]

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Inception.

Although I've never sat and listened to the actual soundtrack. Just judging from the movie itself.

The score is on the second disc in the Inception Blu-Ray set.It is in full lossless multi-channel sound(DTS-MA HD).The sound is amazing.

[SuperBowlNachos]

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Also, am I in the minority that absolutely hates Hollywood Undead?

I like Undead, but they are pretty much garbage.

[NightmareEvolution]

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I'm not going to read through 64 pages, but I did read a few.

In my opinion, Recovery is Eminem's best album, followed by MMLP/The Eminem Show (take your pick). Encore is also pretty good, but not as good as Recovery/MMLP/TES. In every Eminem album there are songs I'm not a fan of, but most of the songs on Recovery I can listen to. 'Till I Collapse is possibly my favorite Em song though (that or Like Toy Soldiers).
I have most of Eminem's albums on my iPod. I'll listen to them over again and give a breakdown of each.

Also, here's one I know most people would disagree with: Kid Rock is a great singer.

[55]

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For someone who is rock heavy in terms of my listening tastes, I feel the instrumental is what sets it apart. There are so many songs even in rock now (A lot more in pop/hip hop) where the instrumental is just the same thing looping every 10 seconds for an entire song.

That ruins the song for me quite often unless the vocalist is REALLY GOOD. And there aren't many vocalists in rock in my opinion where 90% of the song is the voice and it works.

Then again, for ME (this is me personally) I feel the instrumental of a song sets the mood and tone of a song more than the vocals. I would much rather listen to a great band without vocals than listen to a solo acoustic an average. (I realize, I'm in the minority on this one) I would much rather listen to a movie score than any pop song.

I usually look as vocals as to how they serve from an instrumental purpose, how they mesh with the backing in terms of range, pace, etc. Once again, I know I'm in the minority with that, since a lot of people put the content of the lyrics as #1 far and away. Not that it isn't important, but if the instrumental is great, I can listen to a bunch of la's.

I don't care if the words are groundbreaking, if it's a part of an autotuned or redundant song, it instantly ruins it for me. This is part of the reason I listen to very little pop/hip hop or country. Because the backing is very bland and boring. For me, if the instrumental is weak, unless the vocalist is EXCELLENT (which can happen, of course) than I'm not interested.

Once again, saying this again before someone probably freaks out on me, this is MY opinion, I know I'm in the minority here.

I absolutely, positively, wholeheartedly agree with everything you just said.

In other words:

A+ post. Would read again.

[BunnyHardaway]

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I'm a Wiz Khalifa fan, but dude, come up with something else to make songs about. You're telling me there's NOTHING that's happened to you in your life other than marijuana that's worth writing about?

[CabreraMVP]

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I agree with mostly everything you said except the bolded. How was Pac fake? Was it because he went to the Baltimore School of Performing Arts and spoke intelligently as a teenager? Did you forget the fact that he was dirt poor and that his mom was strung out on crack? A harsh life can turn anyone out. Pac never claimed to be some drug dealer. He admitted trying it for a week or 2, until the drug dealers told them it wasn't for him and to stick to rapping. I think a lot of the decisions he made were the results of growing up in a single parent home and not having a male role model in his life, but I've never heard or seen him lie about any aspect of his life. Did he contradict himself? Sure, we all have, but as far as making complete fabrications, no way. He's not Rick Ross. Pac was probably the realest rapper we've ever had, which is why he's so beloved now.

Even with your Nas comment, it doesn't matter if he lived what he talked about. Nas is a story teller like you said, and never claimed to be some big time kingpin like other rappers (i.e. Jay-Z, Rick Ross). Just because he didn't actually live it doesn't mean he wasn't around it or unfamiliar with it, because he clearly was.

Pac was a real of a person as there could be, in his music or just him as a person. He was a stand up guy and never bit his tongue which is a reason he got in so much trouble. I mean he SHOT two police officers because they were messing with a homeless person. Pac didn't know the guy, but he's got the balls to shoot two police officers for abusing this man for no reason. And he got away with it.

Even his closest friends say that he had a bad side and a good side. His bad side was a result of the people he hung out with. He was really a caring, kind person but that doesn't get noticed. I think he took a teenage girl to prom because she either lost her dad or somebody close to her, and Pac, who was in his 20's, volunteered to take her to the prom and just absolutely make her life.

The media and people in general think of him as a thug. I think him doing "Juice" hurt his image because people figured he was just like the person he played in the movie but he wasn't. He was a special person, he could go 1 on 1 with the president in a debate or he could kick it with dealers and thugs on the streets. He could hang with anybody. Seems like everybody who ever got to know him absolutely loved him.

Watch the interview he did when he was like 17. The things he says in that video and just his thoughts will make you just shake your head. He was so intelligent, so talented, and had such great energy and a great heart. He was just an awesome person, that's why I look up to him so much.

[NoDakHusker]

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For someone who is rock heavy in terms of my listening tastes, I feel the instrumental is what sets it apart. There are so many songs even in rock now (A lot more in pop/hip hop) where the instrumental is just the same thing looping every 10 seconds for an entire song.

That ruins the song for me quite often unless the vocalist is REALLY GOOD. And there aren't many vocalists in rock in my opinion where 90% of the song is the voice and it works.

Then again, for ME (this is me personally) I feel the instrumental of a song sets the mood and tone of a song more than the vocals. I would much rather listen to a great band without vocals than listen to a solo acoustic an average. (I realize, I'm in the minority on this one) I would much rather listen to a movie score than any pop song.

I usually look as vocals as to how they serve from an instrumental purpose, how they mesh with the backing in terms of range, pace, etc. Once again, I know I'm in the minority with that, since a lot of people put the content of the lyrics as #1 far and away. Not that it isn't important, but if the instrumental is great, I can listen to a bunch of la's.

I don't care if the words are groundbreaking, if it's a part of an autotuned or redundant song, it instantly ruins it for me. This is part of the reason I listen to very little pop/hip hop or country. Because the backing is very bland and boring. For me, if the instrumental is weak, unless the vocalist is EXCELLENT (which can happen, of course) than I'm not interested.

Once again, saying this again before someone probably freaks out on me, this is MY opinion, I know I'm in the minority here.

Well said, I definitely feel the same way.

[kingkilla56]

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I'm a Wiz Khalifa fan, but dude, come up with something else to make songs about. You're telling me there's NOTHING that's happened to you in your life other than marijuana that's worth writing about?

Seriously. I never knew the appeal of that dude. Usually when rappers are first coming up they talk about their stuggle to get up, where they grew up, life experiences, things you can vibe with on another level. Of course most of them follow that up with talking about their 50 room mansion with 25 girls in each waiting for him to bless them with his presence. But at least for a year or two the artists are good.

Wiz Kahlifa is not appealing in the slightest. Hes only a notch over Wacka Flocka's bum *** to me.


Side note: Drake has to be the prime example of fame turning anybody into a sex symbol. That dude is ugly as **** but the ladies lose it for him. SMDH

Second Side note: Nicki Minaj aka Onika Minaj is getting tired to me with the forced schitzophrenia and seizures she has when she raps. Another Vapid Young Money Rapper.

[HammerDown]

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Tom Waits and Elvis Costello are the two best songwriters to ever live.

Neil Young > Bob Dylan

[Po Pimp]

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Pac was a real of a person as there could be, in his music or just him as a person. He was a stand up guy and never bit his tongue which is a reason he got in so much trouble. I mean he SHOT two police officers because they were messing with a homeless person. Pac didn't know the guy, but he's got the balls to shoot two police officers for abusing this man for no reason. And he got away with it.

Even his closest friends say that he had a bad side and a good side. His bad side was a result of the people he hung out with. He was really a caring, kind person but that doesn't get noticed. I think he took a teenage girl to prom because she either lost her dad or somebody close to her, and Pac, who was in his 20's, volunteered to take her to the prom and just absolutely make her life.

The media and people in general think of him as a thug. I think him doing "Juice" hurt his image because people figured he was just like the person he played in the movie but he wasn't. He was a special person, he could go 1 on 1 with the president in a debate or he could kick it with dealers and thugs on the streets. He could hang with anybody. Seems like everybody who ever got to know him absolutely loved him.

Watch the interview he did when he was like 17. The things he says in that video and just his thoughts will make you just shake your head. He was so intelligent, so talented, and had such great energy and a great heart. He was just an awesome person, that's why I look up to him so much.

Definitely man. I'm 29, and I have no shame in admitting that Pac is one of the people I've looked up to (along with Muhammad Ali, Michael Jordan and Bruce Lee).

[Hooe]

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IMO, the best sports-related song of this NFL season is not "Black and Gold", nor is it "Green and Gold", but rather it's "I Put The Team On My Back" by Demetry James and MackAdemiX.

(NSFW, lyrics)

Spoiler

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[Hova57]

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Too Live Crew changed the music industry. They first to have women in videos with pretty much nothing on.