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  • Nivek
    H*ll *f F*m*
    • Jul 2002
    • 7999

    #61
    Re: Why does G4TV hate Xbox so much?

    Download that GT4 Day 1 summery on IGN...MORGAN WEBB IS FIYAH!!!! I could care less if she hates Xbox 360, she'd GET IT!!!

    Giggity-Giggy!!!!!
    Cameras or guns, one of them is gonna shoot me to death.

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    • jmood88
      Sean Payton: Retribution
      • Jul 2003
      • 34639

      #62
      Re: Why does G4TV hate Xbox so much?

      Originally posted by Silverstring
      They should have you on G4.........your bias can balance out their "bias".

      As other posters have said...get over it. These aren't "journalists", this is videogames were talking about here. E3 is an event that is meant to "wow", the gaming press, and if these people weren't wowed, or if sony has been in it longer, or the XBox isn't running good dev kits, that doesn't matter. They are simply giving off their impressions, which is what they were hired to do.

      What are they supposed to say:

      Morgan: I wasn't that impressed with Microsoft's game X....but remember folks, the XBox dev kits are blah blah blah blah....."

      Give me a break. If sony put out better dev kits, or pre-rendered videos, it was a shrewd move, and kudos to Sony for making sure their console gave better impressions and better "hype", which is what E3 is supposed to do.

      Funny that the XBox supporters cry "bias!", when you know you wouldn't be cutting Sony any slack if the tables were turned....
      And how am I bias? I have no problem with anybody playing games on the pc and I don't hate the pc. The fact is, by christmas the pc will not have anything better than the ps3 or the xbox 360.
      Originally posted by Blzer
      Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

      If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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      • jmood88
        Sean Payton: Retribution
        • Jul 2003
        • 34639

        #63
        Re: Why does G4TV hate Xbox so much?

        Originally posted by jrivera34
        I have been a big Xbox supporter since the beginning (Although I own a PS2 and had a gamecube as well).

        I must say that the Sony Press conference was much better and focused more on games than chatting with my new internet friends online. Microsoft is trying to get the non-gamer into the XBox. I hope for their sake it works. For me, I am a gamer, I like playing games online, but I am not looking to make friends online.

        On the flip side though, if the rumors are true, I do not think the PS3 is worth $200 more than the XBox 360. All the games on both systems will look great and play the same (hopefully the gameplay is great also).

        A system can have all the power in the world, but if the developers don't use it, it won't matter. See Xbox 1!.
        That's true. The xbox conference was boring and they were focusing way too much on the other aspects of the 360.
        Originally posted by Blzer
        Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

        If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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        • KillRoy
          MVP
          • Jan 2003
          • 1369

          #64
          Re: Why does G4TV hate Xbox so much?

          Originally posted by Briman123
          Hardcore gamers buy PC's and none of the mainstreet crap like Halo when we have better FPS on PC COUGH HALF-LIFE 2 COUGH! As of now my graphics card is already more superior then both systems (6800 Ultra) and by christmas next gen PC games will own both systems in terms of graphics... My key is going to get the most powerful system and according to this link http://ps3.ign.com/articles/614/614783p1.html the PS3 is certainly going to be better technically.
          I own a PC too but PC`s are still a pain in the a$s to deal with! I`d much rather see a GREAT console that can do everything a PC can do without all the headaches! PC`s are just not user friendly.

          But yeah... I would rather play HL2 on PC than console. When it comes to FPS games, PC`s still rule but only because of the keyboard and mouse, not necessarily graphics. KB & M is still a better way to play FPS games.

          and no... Your PC chip is still behind the PS3 and 360.

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          • TarHeelMan
            Th* H*mb*rg*r P*mp
            • Jul 2002
            • 7853

            #65
            Re: Why does G4TV hate Xbox so much?

            Originally posted by Nivek
            Download that GT4 Day 1 summery on IGN...MORGAN WEBB IS FIYAH!!!! I could care less if she hates Xbox 360, she'd GET IT!!!

            Giggity-Giggy!!!!!
            I've been going to bed with dreams of busting her back out while playing College Hoops 2k6 this whole week....

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            • EViL2uCe
              Rookie
              • Dec 2004
              • 190

              #66
              Re: Why does G4TV hate Xbox so much?

              i actually agreed with most of what the "round table" on G4 had to say. MS hyped up a great console, and in their speech said it was the most powerful next gen system, and they showed good footage, but in comparison to PS3, XBox was more talk than actual show. I'm a huge Xbox fan, but like them, i was expecting so much more after they spent a year trying to market the thing.
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              • KillRoy
                MVP
                • Jan 2003
                • 1369

                #67
                Re: Why does G4TV hate Xbox so much?

                Originally posted by jmood88
                That's true. The xbox conference was boring and they were focusing way too much on the other aspects of the 360.
                But I could say the SAME thing about the Sony press conference. All they did was talk about how powerfull the PS3`s cell chip is and show us a few ducks swimming around in a bath tub.

                I think they went different routes... MS told us everything the 360 can do while SONY told us how great the graphics will be. Take your pick on which system to buy but keep in mind it doesn`t matter how powerful your machine is, it doesn`t make any difference if Devz don`t tap into it.

                But as I allready stated... when it comes to games I think Sony won but they were showing us RENDERS. They`re supposed to win when they show nothing but renders.
                Last edited by KillRoy; 05-18-2005, 05:13 PM.

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                • Silverstring
                  Pro
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 739

                  #68
                  Re: Why does G4TV hate Xbox so much?

                  Originally posted by jmood88
                  And how am I bias? I have no problem with anybody playing games on the pc and I don't hate the pc. The fact is, by christmas the pc will not have anything better than the ps3 or the xbox 360.
                  Everybody is biased, and that's fine. What's funny is when biased people deny their own bias, yet shout it at others(and let's be real, your posts make you seem like an XBox apologist, dismissive of Sony, and spiteful of Nintendo.). I have my own biases as well.

                  But c'mon, every time someone posts some thoughts that point to less than gushing enthrallment about this new XBox, you pipe in with this, "dev kit, less than full power, etc." stuff. Despite the question of its factual validity, that has nothing to do with how people on this board should feel about it, or how the commentators on G4 should comment on it.

                  The REAL fact is this: Microsoft put what it believed to be its best foot forward at E3, and Sony did the same. Based on the what the companies have presented, Sony seems to be winning over more people. If you needed to come out earlier, or integrate online more heavily, or focus your press conference or gaming footage around certain things, or caveat x,y,z causes you not to look as good at this point in time, then TOO BAD Microsoft, them's the breaks.

                  Sony is having a better showing(and its not just G4 that's saying it) for a variety of reasons, many of which have been already discussed, and that just points to good company planning.

                  They have different steaks(the specs, power, etc), but Sony appears to be selling the "sizzle" better. Just because people are pointing that out doesn't make them biased, and even if it did, so what?
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                  • jmood88
                    Sean Payton: Retribution
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 34639

                    #69
                    Re: Why does G4TV hate Xbox so much?

                    Originally posted by Silverstring
                    Everybody is biased, and that's fine. What's funny is when biased people deny their own bias, yet shout it at others(and let's be real, your posts make you seem like an XBox apologist, dismissive of Sony, and spiteful of Nintendo.). I have my own biases as well.
                    I was talking about in terms of the pc. I am biased against sony's game consoles because they have lied in the past and the consoles have been too fragile for my tastes. I'm still interested in what the ps3 has to offer but I am not quick to believe what sony says since they haven't told the whole truth about their consoles. And as far as the revolution goes, that was just a lot of baseless hype. Like I said before, it's not as revolutionary as they made it out to be and I'm sick of the rehashing of old franchises.

                    Originally posted by Silverstring
                    But c'mon, every time someone posts some thoughts that point to less than gushing enthrallment about this new XBox, you pipe in with this, "dev kit, less than full power, etc." stuff. Despite the question of its factual validity, that has nothing to do with how people on this board should feel about it, or how the commentators on G4 should comment on it.
                    The only time I've said that is when people say that the games for the 360 looked like current xbox games.
                    Originally posted by Silverstring
                    They have different steaks(the specs, power, etc), but Sony appears to be selling the "sizzle" better. Just because people are pointing that out doesn't make them biased, and even if it did, so what?
                    If I turn to a video game channel(which is the only one on tv right now), then I would expect for them to talk about all the consoles evenly and without all the sarcastic comments. I didn't know that they were supposed to kiss sony's *** and if I did then I certainly wouldn't turn to it. I'm sorry if you don't feel that they should report the facts about each system and that they should do it without talking bad about any system. I probably shouldn't have expected that but that's what I was expecting when I turned to the e3 coverage.
                    Originally posted by Blzer
                    Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

                    If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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                    • Programmed2Kill
                      Banned
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 14644

                      #70
                      Re: Why does G4TV hate Xbox so much?

                      Dammit, I caught the MS press conference live on strea, but I missed the Sony PO. I need to get my act together. I gotta tune into G4 today.


                      Did PS3 really look that damn good?

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                      • Silverstring
                        Pro
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 739

                        #71
                        Re: Why does G4TV hate Xbox so much?

                        Originally posted by jmood88
                        If I turn to a video game channel(which is the only one on tv right now), then I would expect for them to talk about all the consoles evenly and without all the sarcastic comments. I didn't know that they were supposed to kiss sony's *** and if I did then I certainly wouldn't turn to it. I'm sorry if you don't feel that they should report the facts about each system and that they should do it without talking bad about any system. I probably shouldn't have expected that but that's what I was expecting when I turned to the e3 coverage.

                        Well, I didn't know you held G4 to the same standards as a network news channel, and 20-30somthing gamers to the journalistic integrity standards of, say, a White House correspondent.

                        To me, G4 positions its E3 coverage(and its whole channel) as something like "gamers, just like you and me, bringing you news and opinion". And that's exactly how it came off. Roundtable discussions are for opinion/discussion. Would you prefer they just read off system spec sheets? OR, just like when we make threads for new sports games around here, that they give their "impressions"(and yes, sometimes sarcastic quips are a part of that opinion, like a crack about 989 Sports or Nintendo and the "kiddy-ness" you always claim). G4 is there to entertain, as well as inform.
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                        • Nivek
                          H*ll *f F*m*
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 7999

                          #72
                          Re: Why does G4TV hate Xbox so much?

                          Originally posted by Programmed2Kill
                          Did PS3 really look that damn good?
                          YES!
                          Cameras or guns, one of them is gonna shoot me to death.

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                          • KillRoy
                            MVP
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 1369

                            #73
                            Re: Why does G4TV hate Xbox so much?

                            Originally posted by Programmed2Kill

                            Did PS3 really look that damn good?
                            KillZone looked too good to be true!

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                            • Programmed2Kill
                              Banned
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 14644

                              #74
                              Re: Why does G4TV hate Xbox so much?

                              Damn! Ok, I gotta look for screenies and vids.

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                              • KillRoy
                                MVP
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 1369

                                #75
                                Re: Why does G4TV hate Xbox so much?

                                Wow... I just heard on G4 that Square is making Final Fantasy for the 360!

                                Thats unbelieveable news for MS!

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