Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion discussion...

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It does in RPG games... It always has made sense, ever sense the D&D games invented that system back in the day.

Again, it's an RPG. That's how that genre plays. If a gamer don't like that genre, he/she should look elsewhere, instead of expecting the developer to change genres.

I just wish more developers were making GTA/Morrowind sized games on the consoles. It sucks only having a few per year. I know it takes alot of dev time and probably cost but as you can see, Morrowind and GTA are 2 of the classic games to drop on the current gen consoles. Almost 3 years later, Morrowind and GTA are still has one of the top ten message boards and FAQs on gamefaqs.

I dont mean for companies to straight out bite the ideas of Bethseda and R*, just come up with their very own grand scale game. There is plenty of untapped themes that can be used.

[Flawless]

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Teamxbox will have a hands-on preview. It will go live at 12AM PST / 3AM EST.

[jmood88]

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It does in RPG games... It always has made sense, ever sense the D&D games invented that system back in the day.

Again, it's an RPG. That's how that genre plays. If a gamer don't like that genre, he/she should look elsewhere, instead of expecting the developer to change genres.

In rpg games like that they are usually turn based. What sense does it make to have it where you fight where your hits don't actually matter? Having your ability to hit things dependent on some dice roll should only be used in turn based games. Not all rpg's play the same way and there are rpg's where the fighting is actually well done, like in Jade Empire.

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In rpg games like that they are usually turn based. What sense does it make to have it where you fight where your hits don't actually matter? Having your ability to hit things dependent on some dice roll should only be used in turn based games. Not all rpg's play the same way and there are rpg's where the fighting is actually well done, like in Jade Empire.

Well, JE was simply a action game with RPG elements IMO.

[jmood88]

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Well, JE was simply a action game with RPG elements IMO.

OK well then what is your definition of an rpg?

[stiffarmleft]

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I was going to pass on this game because I thought the combat would not be to my liking, until I read the following narrative on this site, http://www.morrowind.com/codex/team_teamprof_stevem.htm, I will more than likely pick it up now:

You're walking through a seedy part of a town in Western Cyrodiil. People mill about, some engaged in conversation, others minding their own business out on their own errands. Suddenly, an ugly man decides he doesn't like you. Maybe he's drunk, maybe he's just a bully, maybe he's just showing off in front of his friends -- but for whatever reason, he has taken your measure and decided he can best you.

He comes charging at you, with a nasty looking mace in his hand and a look of hatred on his face. Onlookers move back to make room for what should be an entertaining fight.

Quickly drawing your sword and shield, you wheel around to face him. He's upon you pretty quickly though, and you barely have time to raise your shield (hold right mouse button) before his first blow thunders down upon you.

But you block well, and as he recoils from the collision, you quickly perform left & right slashes with your sword (two clicks of the left mouse button, about a second apart). The bully realizes this isn't going to be easy.

He backs off a bit, and starts dodging around you. First to the left, then to the right. You maneuver to keep him in view, looking for an opening. Suddenly he steps back, raises his mace in both hands, and steps forward, bringing the mace towards your head in a crushing blow!

But you're quick -- you step to the side as he attacks. As he passes by, you execute a spinning maneuver and slash him in the side (hold left mouse button and left maneuver key). The hit is solid, and your foe staggers from the blow.

But it's not over yet. The bully swings his mace wildly -- his first swing misses, but the next one connects for a blow that sends you staggering. Pressing his advantage, the bully bears down on you with a power attack of his own. OUCH. This isn't going well. You take a glance at your health meter; it's getting a bit low. You quickly back up out of the bully's reach and raise your shield (hold right mouse button).

He's hurting, too. You circle each other for a time, looking for an opening, trying to recover some fatigue. Finally the bully charges forward with a devastating overhead blow, perhaps hoping to break your shield. But the shield holds and the recoil send him staggering back. This is your chance! You perform a mighty forward power attack (hold the left mouse button, press forward) and connect solidly. The blow staggers your foe once again, and you perform 3 slashing attacks in rapid succession (three taps on the left mouse button, about a second apart), and finally the bully collapses to the ground, defeated.

The crowd disperses, going back to their own business.

[WTF]

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Wow... that sounds nice...

[Jistic]

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Well, JE was simply a action game with RPG elements IMO.

100% agreed. Too shallow, over way too quickly as well.

[Jistic]

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Wow... that sounds nice...

Yeah, a lot more dramatic than actually playing. Well written.

[WTF]

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I'm downloading the video of the new combat system from that website. I'm currently at 65%... let's hope that it lives up to expectations...

[WTF]

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Wow... that is absolutely sweet looking. Keeping all of the best elements of morrowind, and adding a more intuitive interface. Go download the video of the new combat system... the dungeons look awesome.

[Flawless]

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IGN 6 Page Hands-On, New Video Interview, New Gameplay Footage

Hands-On

Video Interview, Gameplay Footage


Gamespot Hands-on


Teamxbox hands-on

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[Admiral50]

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Yeah, a lot more dramatic than actually playing. Well written.

Exactly. You could pretty much use the same post to describe a similar instance in Morrowind.

Imaginative writing that's it. Especially when you see in the gameplay video's that enemies still swipe when they are way to far away. I just hope the collision detection for that is better than Morrow...

Anyway, some iffy things from the IGN preview...

Its (Xbox 360) framerate did tend to slow down a little when characters crowded onscreen

The PC version looked slightly sharper ran at a better clip than the Xbox 360

[Flawless]

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Gamespot said differently...

Both versions of the game ran fairly smooth, though we did notice that the Xbox 360 version seemed to have a slightly faster pace than the PC version.

Your going to experience framerate dips with this game regardless of what platform your playing on.


As for the PC version being slightly sharper, that's no suprise, afterall you can run games at higher resolutions on the PC.

[Kodiak33]

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Is this the final version they are playing?