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  • WTF
    MVP
    • Aug 2002
    • 20274

    #1996
    Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

    Most likely 3rd party titles will be $69.99 I'd say. It only makes sense.
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    • ExtremeGamer
      Extra Life 11/3/18
      • Jul 2002
      • 35299

      #1997
      Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

      Originally posted by candyman56
      I fear that 3rd party games are going to be $64.99 or $69.99. Why would they say that first party games would be $59.99, but not mention 3rd party titles? First Party Sony games have always been cheaper than 3rd party by $10.

      They can get Talladega Nights packed with the PS3, but no Component Cables. Is TN on a Blu Ray disc or DVD?

      Go figure, SONY are the ones that claim next gen doesn't start until they hit the market with the PS3, but the damn thing is being released with Composite Cables. LOL!
      It's a Blu Ray. Very odd choice for a pack in movie though IMO.

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      • CaptainZombie
        Brains
        • Jul 2003
        • 37851

        #1998
        Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

        Originally posted by ExtremeGamer
        It's a Blu Ray. Very odd choice for a pack in movie though IMO.
        I know they want to show off the BR player with that movie in BR, but why not just forget the movie and just pack in component cables. I hear rumor that if you have Component Cables for the PS2, the ports are the same so they should work.
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        • WTF
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          • Aug 2002
          • 20274

          #1999
          Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

          I think it's a great choice for a movie. A lot of people, younger crowd, are going to be buying TN anyway... so why not give the added incentive to pick up a new BR player, and get the movie for free. Good move in my mind.
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          • Misfit
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            • Mar 2003
            • 5766

            #2000
            Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

            Originally posted by candyman56
            I fear that 3rd party games are going to be $64.99 or $69.99. Why would they say that first party games would be $59.99, but not mention 3rd party titles? First Party Sony games have always been cheaper than 3rd party by $10.

            They can get Talladega Nights BR version packed with the PS3, but no Component Cables.

            Go figure, SONY are the ones that claim next gen doesn't start until they hit the market with the PS3, but the damn thing is being released with Composite Cables. LOL!

            Well, they can't speak for third party developers so they can't guarantee anything about how those titles will be priced. Historically, first party and third party titles have been priced the same for the first 2 years or so of a Playstation console's life before being dropped down to $40. It's possible all titles will cost $59 at launch. Given how pricey this whole thing has gotten though, nothing would surprise me and if I were jumping on the PS3 bandwagon I'd expect the worst.

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            • CaptainZombie
              Brains
              • Jul 2003
              • 37851

              #2001
              Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

              Originally posted by Misfit
              Well, they can't speak for third party developers so they can't guarantee anything about how those titles will be priced. Historically, first party and third party titles have been priced the same for the first 2 years or so of a Playstation console's life before being dropped down to $40. It's possible all titles will cost $59 at launch. Given how pricey this whole thing has gotten though, nothing would surprise me and if I were jumping on the PS3 bandwagon I'd expect the worst.
              I'm just guessing that 3rd party could be $10 more, but who knows.

              BR movies have already dropped from $29.99 to $19.99, so the BR discs have to dropped a little in price.
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              • CaptainZombie
                Brains
                • Jul 2003
                • 37851

                #2002
                Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

                EG posted Gamespot's take, here's IGN's:

                Sony's PlayStation 3 Gamer's day is here, and we're live from the even with complete coverage of what's going down. Remember to refresh this page regularly for constant updates, news, and more from the craziness.

                1:31pm: Sony representatives let us in the door and we take our seats -- Sony's auditorium is packed with press, photographers, and more.

                2:05pm: Kaz Hirai opened the presentation by saying that5every question left concerning the new console would be revealed at this event. The session is covering the following areas:

                Whats in the box at launch

                Launch titles

                Peripherals

                PS Network

                PS Store

                Downloadable Content

                The retail box was revealed along with the launch lineup of 22 games including:


                Genji: Days of the Blade

                NBA 07

                Resistance: Fall of Man

                Blazing Angels: Squadrons of WWII

                Call of Duty 3

                EA Sports Fight Night Round 3

                The Elder Scrolls IV Oblivion

                F.E.A.R.

                Full Auto 2 Battlelines

                Madden NFL 07

                Marvel Ultimate Alliance

                Mobile Suit Gundam: Crossfire

                NBA 2K7

                NHL 2K7

                Untold Legends Dark Kingdom

                Ridge Racer 7

                Tiger Woods PGA Tour 07

                Sonic the Hedgehog

                Need for Speed Carbon

                Tony Hawk's Project 8

                Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Vegas

                Kaz made fun of he E3 presentation by yelling "Ridge Racer!" at the end of his speech. A video was shown and then the podium was handed over to Jack Tretton who talked about what to expect at retail. The basic features of the PS3 $499 and $599 model were shown. It was stressed that the only major differences between the two are hard drive space and the compact flash memory slot.

                Tretton then spoke about the importance of Blu-ray. Effective Nov. 17 the first 500,000 units of PS3 will ship with Talladega Nights on Blu-ray before it is available to the public on December 12. We were then shown an extended trailer for the movie.

                The next item up for discussion was the SIXAXIS. It was a 20 meter wireless range, 30 hours of battery life for one charge, and a tool that the community is just starting to fully harness. It will come with an AC cord, USB mini-cable, ethernet cable, Multi-AV cable with composite connectors. Tretton said that there is no power brick - only a cord. He slammed the competition for being noisy and having a large external power brick.

                First party titles will retail at $59.99. The controller with be $49.99, and the memory card adapter will be 14.99, and the Blue Ray remote will come in December for $24.99.

                We were then shown the Retail Channel Interactives, or those lovely game kiosks that can be found at your local EB or Gamestop.

                (2:25pm PST)Phil Harrison

                Phil introduced Ted Price who gave us a demo of Resistance: Fall of Man. He gave us a weapon demo that showed off the shield, the rocket launcher (the Laark), and the ability to lock-on to enemies. The Hailstorm rifle was shown firing its bouncing projectiles and tossing out a small turret.

                He then paused the game and flew the camera through the battle. Advancing the game frame by frame to show how each of the projectiles launched by his grenade acting with individual physics. He then showed The Reapers: independently targetting pistols that can cross and shoot more than one enemy at a time.

                There will be 40 players online at once with 6 different modes. Buddy lists, parties, clans, stat tracking, and off-line split screen will all be available at launch.

                (2:33pm PST) More Blu-ray
                Phil returned and introduced a demo of Genji: Days of the Blade. An alternate dimension action event system was shown off as well as three of the playable characters.

                Harrison then stated the importance of true HD gaming. NBA 07 will have the first 1080p, 60 frames per second gameplay, and it is a launch title. The game was shown in action looking very complete. The game was paused and the camera zoomed in to show sweat running down the player's faces, rendered in real-time.

                (2:35pm PST) Lair Demo
                The main point of the Lair demo was the use of the SIXAXIS controller and how intuitive it is. The demo from the TGS preview event was shown along with the way the controller is slightly tilted and how the dragon reacts.

                (2:38pm PST) PS3 at Home
                Harrison then turned on a PS3 with the controller. The system launches with the sound of an orchestra tuning and goes directly to the Cross Media Bar. He logged in to the system as Phil H and went into the menu system.

                He went to "settings" to change the display settings, sound, security, chat, music, and the Blu-ray settings. He then went to the photo settings and scrolled through date stamped image folders. He then showed 1080p photographs that were incredibly clear. He then showed off the ability to impose pictures on falling post cards that floated to the ground in a 3D slide show.

                Music was briefly played, and then the video icon was shown. The video clip thumb nails were running in real time as Phill scrolled through them. He also had some previews for movies (Spider Man 3) that were played for the audience. He then played the trailer for Casino Royale which will launch the same day as PS3.

                (2:45pm PST) The PlayStation Network
                The networking features was then shown off which is all free and all standard with the console. He went into his icon based friends list and used a predictive text tool to write to someone. You can also use the USB keyboard. This is also where voice chat will be controlled. Harrison then scrolled to the web browser which can display multiple windows. Phil then showed the PS3 E3 Conference in One Minute from YouTube in one of the windows.

                (2:50pm PST) Remote Play
                Harrison then picked up a PSP and wirelessly ran the Casino Royale trailer on the handheld system. Streaming the media on PSP can now be done in your living room but Harrison said that it will soon be possible from any hotspot in the world. Streaming your PS3 content on the PSP anywhere certainly opens some amazing possibilities.

                John Smedley
                John then showed off the PlayStation Store. The interface included featured items, demos, downloadable games, top downloads, and what's new. The system has integrated X-Fire which allows current users on the PC to see who's online with PS3.

                The store can be built directly into the games. This means that you can make purchases like episodic content within the game. The store has a top story that features the latest content. Downloadable games featured PS1 content that is playable on the PSP and in the future playable on the PS3.

                (2:50pm PST) The Store
                The downloadable game Blast Factor was highlighted then selected and taken to the store. He proceeded to checkout where there was a wallet and a total. Gamers can either use a credit card or a PlayStation card that can be purchased at retail stores. Parents can set rating limits for downloads to censor material for their children and set allowances in the PS store.

                The demo was performed live over the internet to the PS store. This was not a set demo, but actually connected to Sony's online service. The games will be around $14.99 and less. The store also included trailers and will eventually have full movies. The games that are downloaded can be played on up to 5 additional PS3s so you can share with your friends.

                The Motorstorm demo will be available through the store at launch and it was then shown on the big screen. Blast Factor was then shown. It was developed by 5 people and has online rankings and dynamic difficulty levels. It looks exactly like Geometry Wars. You can turn objects over by shooting a wave at them which plays into the strategy later in the game.

                (3:05pm PST) God of Mini Games
                David Jaffe was then brought to the stage to show off his new game. It will be a Feb or March release for a game called Criminal Crackdown. It is a tribute to old multiplayer games from the 16 bit era. It featured what looked like cell shaded vehicles chasing a criminal around a town. The buildings broke apart as players smashed into them. It sort of looked like a cartoony Twisted Metal and looks like a lot of fun.

                The presentation ended by going back to Kaz Hirai who invited us to demo the games at the event.
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                • ExtremeGamer
                  Extra Life 11/3/18
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 35299

                  #2003
                  Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

                  On the Spot is doing a special on PS3 tonight. Watched some of it. Motorstorm looks nice. Mike Wan (sp?) of 2K was there showing of NBA2k7. He confirmed, and said "I can't tell the difference graphically in the 360 and PS3 versions". He did say some things were added to the PS3 version from what feedback they got about the 360 version.

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                  • Misfit
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                    • Mar 2003
                    • 5766

                    #2004
                    Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

                    That launch lineup isn't as terrible as I thought it was going to be. A lot still remains to be seen (can Sega actually make a good 3D Sonic game?) but it's certainly not the worst lineup I've ever seen. Resistance looks like the early favorite for system seller. Visually it looks more impressive than any title that came out last year, though who knows how it will play? Personally, I don't care for that genre so it doesn't interest me but I know I'm in the minority where first-person shooters are concerned. Oblivion is still a good game and Ultimate Alliance should be fun. Genji could be a real sleeper, it could also be terrible too. At any rate, those of you shelling out the dough to get a PS3 next month should be able to find something entertaining to pass the time with.

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                    • Rodster
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 5709

                      #2005
                      Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

                      Originally posted by Misfit
                      A lot still remains to be seen (can Sega actually make a good 3D Sonic game?)

                      NO, the Sonic demo on XBL was junk, camera and controller issues galore. The Dreamcast version has the best 3D Sonic IMO.

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                      • jmood88
                        Sean Payton: Retribution
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 34639

                        #2006
                        Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

                        Originally posted by Rodster
                        NO, the Sonic demo on XBL was junk, camera and controller issues galore. The Dreamcast version has the best 3D Sonic IMO.
                        Those graphics are still great. I remember playing the first sonic adventure demo on the dreamcast and being amazed by the lighting and water and everything.
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                        • Crucial Mike
                          MVP
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 1225

                          #2007
                          Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

                          No HD out of the box, but we get Talladega Nights...Welcome to the real next-gen!

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                          • ThaGenecyst
                            MVP
                            • Sep 2004
                            • 4404

                            #2008
                            Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

                            don't know how true this is but LOL if it is:


                            Sony claims Xbox 360 requires HD DVD, etc., thus costs $700



                            Ok, here's a new one: with Sony's announcements today they've issued a titled "Next-generation Console Comparison Fact Sheet," (downloadable here [DOC]) so let's see some facts. First up, were you aware that to use your Xbox 360 Core system you're required to buy the 20GB drive add-on, an HD DVD drive, a wireless controller, and an Xbox Live sub? We weren't either. But hey, it says right there, "requires users to buy" and this is, in fact, a "fact sheet." Of course, none of that's actually true, and what's more, were one to use the Xbox 360 Premium console pack in that chart instead of the Core pack, the total would be $399 for a console with that very same hard drive, wireless controller, and Xbox Live Silver subscription (which provides access to everything but multiplayer) -- remember, kids, an HD DVD drive is not required to do anything but watch high def movies -- it has nothing to do with high def gaming. We hear Microsoft ain't too happy about this chart either and is preparing certain legal action, namely because it could be misleading to otherwise unwitting retail employees selling customers game consoles this holiday season. Go figure.

                            P.S. -In the interest of fairness, it's also worth pointing out the Wii browser is what will cost you after the first 6 months -- not their online service. What's more, if you download the browser before June of 2007, it's straight up free. Otherwise, Nintendo hasn't yet announced details of the cost of their online service so far as we know. Another nice one, Sony.

                            P.P.S. -We just confirmed with Microsoft that another Sony claim -- that you need a memory unit or a hard drive to use the WiFi adapter -- is also false. You can grab a Core pack with no memory card and plug in a WiFi adapter and get on your home network. Sheez Sony, did we mention we moonlight as fact checkers?



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                            • VanCitySportsGuy
                              NYG_Meth
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 9351

                              #2009
                              Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

                              Originally posted by ExtremeGamer
                              It's a Blu Ray. Very odd choice for a pack in movie though IMO.
                              Not really. Talladega Nights is a Sony Pictures film.

                              It's a great choice for a pack in movie. The DVD is loaded with special features and it's a funny movie.

                              Getting it for "free" before it hits retail is a big bonus for some.

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                              • CaptainZombie
                                Brains
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 37851

                                #2010
                                Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

                                Originally posted by asianflow
                                Not really. Talladega Nights is a Sony Pictures film.

                                It's a great choice for a pack in movie. The DVD is loaded with special features and it's a funny movie.

                                Getting it for "free" before it hits retail is a big bonus for some.
                                But a bigger bonus would be component cables over TN.
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