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  • Village Idiot
    Probably Insane
    • Sep 2004
    • 2733

    #61
    Re: New Lair Screenshot. WOW.

    Originally posted by Rodster
    I'm not a fan of the Suxaxis controller so if they didn't like i'm sure I won't either.
    I'd agree. Every time I've read something in the past about a game that's 'utilizing Sixaxis' I've cringed.

    But, to be fair, you never know. Maybe it's just that we haven't played a game that truly shows us what Sixaxis is all about. Most of the games so far have just used it as a sort of throw-away, gimmicky feature. Maybe a game that really implements it well will have us changing our tune.
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    • CaptainZombie
      Brains
      • Jul 2003
      • 37851

      #62
      Re: New Lair Screenshot. WOW.

      Originally posted by Undefeated
      I'd agree. Every time I've read something in the past about a game that's 'utilizing Sixaxis' I've cringed.

      But, to be fair, you never know. Maybe it's just that we haven't played a game that truly shows us what Sixaxis is all about. Most of the games so far have just used it as a sort of throw-away, gimmicky feature. Maybe a game that really implements it well will have us changing our tune.
      I think that Sixaxis is one of the worst gimmicks ever.
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      • Rodster
        Banned
        • Mar 2003
        • 5709

        #63
        Re: New Lair Screenshot. WOW.

        Originally posted by Undefeated
        I'd agree. Every time I've read something in the past about a game that's 'utilizing Sixaxis' I've cringed.

        But, to be fair, you never know. Maybe it's just that we haven't played a game that truly shows us what Sixaxis is all about. Most of the games so far have just used it as a sort of throw-away, gimmicky feature. Maybe a game that really implements it well will have us changing our tune.
        I played flow and the rubber ducky game and they were both equally bad using the controller and those two games were built around suxaxis. When someone has to give me a tutorial on how to hold the controller with one hand and place two fingers over the thumb just so you can effectively play the game you know that suxaxis is a bad gimmick.

        If people are complaining about the controller and the game is designed around the gimmick then I sure as hell ain't going to waste my time or $60 plus dollars on that game.

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        • Village Idiot
          Probably Insane
          • Sep 2004
          • 2733

          #64
          Re: New Lair Screenshot. WOW.

          When my wife played Motorstorm for the first time (which was probably the first time she had played a video game since NES), she complained about the analog controls and said 'I want to be able to steer like in my car!' It felt pretty neat when I told her I could change it so that she could.

          Motion control may fall flat on its face - and believe me, I'd be fine with that - but people were having the same problem moving from D-Pad to analog stick. I know that transition took me quite a while. Now we're quite possibly faced with a similar shift in convention. I just say keep an open mind for the time being, is all.
          Last edited by Village Idiot; 07-31-2007, 07:33 PM.
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          • Rodster
            Banned
            • Mar 2003
            • 5709

            #65
            Re: New Lair Screenshot. WOW.

            Originally posted by Undefeated
            When my wife played Motorstorm for the first time (which was probably the first time she had played a video game since NES), she complained about the analog controls and said 'I want to be able to steer like in my car!' It felt pretty neat when I told her I could change it so that she could.

            Motion control may fall flat on its face - and believe me, I'd be fine with that - but people were having the same problem moving from D-Pad to analog stick. I know that transition took me quite a while. Now we're quite possibly faced with a similar shift in convention. I say keep an open mind for the time being.
            I had a open mind until I used suxaxis to control the car in both Motorstorm and F1. Both were painful to use and did not feel natural at all. I went back to the tried and true analog sticks.

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            • Misfit
              All Star
              • Mar 2003
              • 5766

              #66
              Re: New Lair Screenshot. WOW.

              Sixaxis is mostly a gimmick, a cheap knock-off of the wii remote. That being said, no one has really utilized it in a good way up to this point so I'm reluctant to pass final judgement on it. It certainly sounds like it could work as it pertains to Warhawk but outside of steering I see little use for it (MLB 2k7's use of it in hitting is terrible). I'm not impressed by it at this point, but I'll reserve final judgement until I play a full-fledged game that claims to take full advantage of the feature.

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              • Village Idiot
                Probably Insane
                • Sep 2004
                • 2733

                #67
                Re: New Lair Screenshot. WOW.

                Originally posted by Rodster
                I had a open mind until I used suxaxis to control the car in both Motorstorm and F1. Both were painful to use and did not feel natural at all. I went back to the tried and true analog sticks.
                Let's pretend for the moment that Lair really is this epic '9.5' type game. You really think your experience with those games is relevant?

                If that doesn't make the point, nothing will.
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                • Rodster
                  Banned
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 5709

                  #68
                  Re: New Lair Screenshot. WOW.

                  Originally posted by Undefeated
                  Let's pretend for the moment that Lair really is this epic '9.5' type game. You really think your experience with those games is relevant?

                  If that doesn't make the point, nothing will.
                  No, it's not but I base my assumptions on everything i've tried with suxaxis and it hasn't been good. Reviews and impressions have been saying the game's controls feels rough at times.

                  If the game is worthy of a true unbiased 9.5 and the controls are spot on and enhance the gameplay then I see no reason not to buy it. So far all indications are this is not a 9.5 game.

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                  • ThaGenecyst
                    MVP
                    • Sep 2004
                    • 4404

                    #69
                    Re: New Lair Screenshot. WOW.

                    lol @ suxaxis.. never heard it before... outside of the graphics, i didn't see Lair as being that MUST HAVE... then again i was never really into the Panzer Dragoon games lol oh well
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                    • CaptainZombie
                      Brains
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 37851

                      #70
                      Re: New Lair Screenshot. WOW.

                      Originally posted by ThaGenecyst
                      lol @ suxaxis.. never heard it before... outside of the graphics, i didn't see Lair as being that MUST HAVE... then again i was never really into the Panzer Dragoon games lol oh well
                      This game had potential imo until I just saw this past week this game is all suxaxis control which I really dislike.

                      Here is a Behind the Scenes Trailer, the game looks amazing...........but that damn control.
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                      • CaptainZombie
                        Brains
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 37851

                        #71
                        Re: New Lair Screenshot. WOW.

                        Lair Delayed
                        The dragon's running late.


                        The official Sony PlayStation blog reported today that Lair, originally scheduled to be released on August 14, has been delayed until September 4.

                        According to Ryan Hamlyn's post, an issue arose during QA testing regarding the game's various online features, including leaderboards and its medal systems. Hopefully, this delay ultimately means good things for Lair, since such an eagerly anticipated game should, ideally, be as polished as possible before release. But anyone interested in engaging in dragon warfare has to wait another month for Factor 5 to complete its upcoming title.
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                        • Altimus
                          Chelsea, Assemble!
                          • Nov 2004
                          • 27283

                          #72
                          Re: New Lair Screenshot. WOW.

                          Originally posted by candymanGT
                          This game had potential imo until I just saw this past week this game is all suxaxis control which I really dislike.


                          This sucks! This game just went from a buy to a rental. I really don't care for and dislike the sixaxis and every game always turn the feature off.

                          Don't know if I can play an entire game using it... stupid.

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                          • ExtremeGamer
                            Extra Life 11/3/18
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 35299

                            #73
                            Re: New Lair Screenshot. WOW.

                            Originally posted by Altimus Prime


                            This sucks! This game just went from a buy to a rental. I really don't care for and dislike the sixaxis and every game always turn the feature off.

                            Don't know if I can play an entire game using it... stupid.
                            Yeah, I had no idea either, this game is off my list now unless impressions are extremely favorable. I hate the Sixaxis. I turn it off in every game.

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                            • The GIGGAS
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                              • Mar 2003
                              • 28474

                              #74
                              Re: New Lair Screenshot. WOW.

                              I really believe this game is the prime example of next-gen... fantastic visuals, and (from the reviews) lackluster gameplay.
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                              • HMcCoy
                                All Star
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 8212

                                #75
                                Re: New Lair Screenshot. WOW.

                                Originally posted by The GIGGAS
                                I really believe this game is the prime example of next-gen... fantastic visuals, and (from the reviews) lackluster gameplay.
                                I dunno, G...tend to think next-gen is defined by games like Oblivion (expansiveness) RB6:Vegas (online), Gears (visuals) and in a few weeks Bioshock (storytelling) There have been some really great games so far that couldn't have been done with last-gen tech, IMO, (Dead Rising, Condemned, Test Drive Unlimited) and this is only the beginning with stuff like Mass Effect and GTAIV coming soon. For me next-gen has been off the hook so far.

                                Can't speak for the PS3 games though...
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