Watch Dogs

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Re: Watch Dogs

I honestly haven't touched online. I just finally decided to finish the game last night, and finished my last gang convoy.

I wish there were just a ton of DLC gang hideout missions or something because i'll probably miss those the most. It was so much fun navigating in and out of structures and different venues.

I still have no idea how they could not have a silenced sniper gun in this game, but they had 2 other guns with suppresors, although they were the business.

[ckarlic]

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Just finished it and enjoyed it, but not sure I want to keep it now. Sure there are things that I could do and bought the Season Pass but thinking about getting 40 for it from Gamestop. Curious for those who finished it

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Did you shoot Maurice or let him live? I let him live since he wanted me to kill him

I beat the game last night and enjoyed the story. Im going to try to complete the game more and do some side missions but with games like this, once I beat it, i tend to not go back to them for a while. Glad I played it though. Had a great time playing the campaign.

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I ended up walking away. I figured ill let him suffer mentally for what he did.

[Fresh Tendrils]

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I honestly haven't touched online. I just finally decided to finish the game last night, and finished my last gang convoy.

I wish there were just a ton of DLC gang hideout missions or something because i'll probably miss those the most. It was so much fun navigating in and out of structures and different venues.

I still have no idea how they could not have a silenced sniper gun in this game, but they had 2 other guns with suppresors, although they were the business.

I don't see the point for silenced sniper rifles, though. You can fire one off and not be seen. Weird dynamic.

[23]

Re: Watch Dogs

Just finished it and enjoyed it, but not sure I want to keep it now. Sure there are things that I could do and bought the Season Pass but thinking about getting 40 for it from Gamestop. Curious for those who finished it

Spoiler

Did you shoot Maurice or let him live? I let him live since he wanted me to kill him

I beat the game last night and enjoyed the story. Im going to try to complete the game more and do some side missions but with games like this, once I beat it, i tend to not go back to them for a while. Glad I played it though. Had a great time playing the campaign.

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I ended up walking away. I figured ill let him suffer mentally for what he did.

Lets just say loose ends tie lol

[Brandwin]

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Story wasnt great but was what i expected. Gta v was very good but if you subtract Trevor, the story is okay. Trevor's character is what makes the story.

So you are saying if you subtract a major part of a story it could go from really good to just okay?

[Blzer]

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So you are saying if you subtract a major part of a story it could go from really good to just okay?

Yup, and if it weren't for Heath Ledger's Joker character The Dark Knight wouldn't have been what it was either.

[NINJAK2]

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You guys have any tips for hacker defense? Lately I've been terrible in finding these hackers..Any skills I can add to my tree to help me identify them faster?

[K0ZZ]

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You guys have any tips for hacker defense? Lately I've been terrible in finding these hackers..Any skills I can add to my tree to help me identify them faster?

Some of the basic tricks involve either causing mass mayhem (either catch them in splash damage or the CPU civvies run away while the hacker may not).

Use cameras if possible.

Depends as well if you are being tailed or outright hacked, tailed is easier as they need to maintain LOS so you can limit your search zone to where you are visible, where as the hacker defense make sure you check your corners and various vertical positioning and look for things out of place (oddly parked cars, damaged scenery, etc).

If you follow the progression to the very end for your online prestige you get a box that shows you what they will look like in your game which will help a little and there's another perk that shrinks the search zone as you get closer to them.

[daniel77733]

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So you are saying if you subtract a major part of a story it could go from really good to just okay?

Well yeah. Should have explained it better but my point was that without Trevor, the story falls apart but most fans prefer the Michael character and think that without him, the story falls apart and that includes a friend who loves GTA. I disagree though. The Trevor character is what kept me playing the game and put in 80+ hours and while I like GTA and Rockstar, I dont love either like most gamers do.

[Mabster]

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Well yeah. Should have explained it better but my point was that without Trevor, the story falls apart but most fans prefer the Michael character and think that without him, the story falls apart and that includes a friend who loves GTA. I disagree though. The Trevor character is what kept me playing the game and put in 80+ hours and while I like GTA and Rockstar, I dont love either like most gamers do.

I'm not sure about that part.

Regardless, you take any of the three out and the story falls apart. They're all integral.

[Sandman42]

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Finished the game tonight. Thought the end was pretty rushed with how it tries to close out everyone's stories. The story in general was pretty bad, and Aiden's Batman imitation wore thin on me quickly.

Combat was probably my favorite part though. Decided to take the stealth approach to most missions. Hacking what I could and only resorting to guns as a last resort, so that kept the game fresh. The tailing/follow missions and insta-fail stealth missions are still a pain in the *** though. I'm also terrible at the "Morpheus" missions, with trying to lead people over the phone. Had to intervene on each one of those.

Towards the end of Act 2 I just focused on the story and stopped doing all side missions. I think I've only done 1 gang hideout, 2 convoys, and 3 fixer contracts, with probably a dozen or so crimes stopped. I had enough fun blowing up cars chasing me with steam pipes during the campaign, so I felt like doing those extra missions would make the game feel stale. I probably won't go back to finish them. Might go back to finish up the Missing Persons and Human Trafficking cases, but from what I heard the missions you unlock is pretty bad.

Overall a solid, but not great open world game. Liked the combat better than GTA or Sleeping Dogs, because of the hacking elements, but the story is missing the interesting side stories that other games like GTA give you. There really is no meaningful narrative reasons to play anything besides the campaign, unless you count the Missing Persons and Trafficking quests, but those are literally just listen to audio logs that culminate in disappointing missions. Would have been better had they included a side quest line with DeadSec. I feel like they weren't really developed at all as a "Watch Dog" organization. Just randomly sprinkled throughout the story.

[Valdarez]

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Finished the game tonight. Thought the end was pretty rushed with how it tries to close out everyone's stories. The story in general was pretty bad, and Aiden's Batman imitation wore thin on me quickly.

Combat was probably my favorite part though. Decided to take the stealth approach to most missions. Hacking what I could and only resorting to guns as a last resort, so that kept the game fresh. The tailing/follow missions and insta-fail stealth missions are still a pain in the *** though. I'm also terrible at the "Morpheus" missions, with trying to lead people over the phone. Had to intervene on each one of those.

Towards the end of Act 2 I just focused on the story and stopped doing all side missions. I think I've only done 1 gang hideout, 2 convoys, and 3 fixer contracts, with probably a dozen or so crimes stopped. I had enough fun blowing up cars chasing me with steam pipes during the campaign, so I felt like doing those extra missions would make the game feel stale. I probably won't go back to finish them. Might go back to finish up the Missing Persons and Human Trafficking cases, but from what I heard the missions you unlock is pretty bad.

Overall a solid, but not great open world game. Liked the combat better than GTA or Sleeping Dogs, because of the hacking elements, but the story is missing the interesting side stories that other games like GTA give you. There really is no meaningful narrative reasons to play anything besides the campaign, unless you count the Missing Persons and Trafficking quests, but those are literally just listen to audio logs that culminate in disappointing missions. Would have been better had they included a side quest line with DeadSec. I feel like they weren't really developed at all as a "Watch Dog" organization. Just randomly sprinkled throughout the story.

Pretty much agree with everything you said except for enjoying the combat over Sleeping Dogs. Fighting in Sleeping Dogs was fun for me form beginning to end. Even played the game through a second time on PC. Watch Dogs wore thin on me about 25% of the way through, however I was doing ALL of the side missions which made everything feel extremely repetitive.

[Sandman42]

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Pretty much agree with everything you said except for enjoying the combat over Sleeping Dogs. Fighting in Sleeping Dogs was fun for me form beginning to end. Even played the game through a second time on PC. Watch Dogs wore thing on me about 25% of the way through, however I was doing ALL of the side missions which made everything feel extremely repetitive.

I think the combat scenarios in Watch Dogs are better with multiple ways to distract/blow up guards through cameras and such. If you get into actual combat the fighting in Sleeping Dogs is more fun than the gunplay in Watch Dogs though.

My favorite missions to do in Watch Dogs were hacking the ctOS centers in each district. Didn't even need to step foot into any of them to complete. Just used to cameras and guards to hack into what I needed. That's what this game excels at, so hopefully for the next game they lean more into that and further away from combat.

[Valdarez]

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I think the combat scenarios in Watch Dogs are better with multiple ways to distract/blow up guards through cameras and such. If you get into actual combat the fighting in Sleeping Dogs is more fun than the gunplay in Watch Dogs though.

My favorite missions to do in Watch Dogs were hacking the ctOS centers in each district. Didn't even need to step foot into any of them to complete. Just used to cameras and guards to hack into what I needed. That's what this game excels at, so hopefully for the next game they lean more into that and further away from combat.

When you said combat, I'm thinking the kung fu fighting from Sleeping Dogs, not shooting. I did everything I could to force kung fu battles over gun fights in Sleeping Dogs. Oddly enough, I never used the Focus in Watch Dogs. Didn't even realize it was there until I was nearly halfway through and accidentally triggered it.

Will say I enjoyed the driving in Watch Dogs AND in Sleeping Dogs FAR more than I did in GTA IV (haven't played V yet). Driving was so horrid in GTA IV I couldn't even enjoy the story. Tried playing it 3 times and never made it through more than a few missions.

[Fresh Tendrils]

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The stealth gameplay is fun and a lot of aspects of the gameplay are simple puzzles which is pretty cool to see in an open-world game. When the camera pans down to center on Aiden and zooms in it just puts me in the mood to be crouching around and knocking dudes down with my baton. I only ever use a gun if I need to take somebody out and can't get to them - silenced 1911 and the high-end sniper rifle are the only guns I've ever really used in the game.


With that said, the combat itself is just kind of meh and not very confrontational. The hacking upgrades are fun, but I barely use them outside of the a random blackout. All car chases essentially just end up waiting until the car/NPC you need to take down goes across a steam pipe or goes into a busy intersection. I've been driving using the cockpit view which has almost made the driving too easy now.



I'm not sure what they can do, but driving outside of joy-riding its pretty much a snooze-fest to me. I love being chased from the cops, but even then once you figure out to just set a point and follow the path that the cops aren't really that hard to lose.


Its like the surface of the game is fun, but then you realize there's no depth.