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  • Hoos
    MVP
    • Mar 2003
    • 3998

    #4231
    Re: The Division (Xbone/PS4/PC)

    Originally posted by Smooth Pancakes
    Alright, so for Incursions, hard = challenging and challenging = challenging x2.

    And if the lead dev himself and a group of other devs can't even beat that damn thing on challenging, oh dear God this is gonna be ugly! I think in that case I am going to conpletely skip attempting the incursion on challenging for a while, lol.
    Lol relax! The Devs also said that they could not beat the challenge modes just before release. Also, Bungie said the same thing about the Destiny raids, right before the first one released. I believe their statement went on to say that it's likely nobody would EVER beat it, a squad had it beat within the first 3-4 hours when it dropped, hahaha!

    Moral of the story? Devs are in most cases not very good gamers and not a good barometer for difficulty, lol

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    • Boltman
      L.A. to S.D. to HI
      • Mar 2004
      • 18283

      #4232
      Re: The Division (Xbone/PS4/PC)

      Originally posted by armistead
      I shouldn't laugh since I was Grim a few weeks ago before I started doing runs with you guys.....
      He wasn't the worst ever, but he needs to use one of the two signature skills other than the medical skill Recovery link. Survivor or Tactical are better for challenges. The turret is also next to useless in challenges, if he had changed those two he'd be more effective.

      We eventually got it done in the end by changing our strategy.

      Then on the next challenge on the rollover (consulate) we picked up Jon (J_nes) and proceeded to tear thru pretty easily.

      Good coordination goes a long way in challenges. Calling out who we're focusing fire on, alternating pulses, alternating flash stickies, calling out signature skills such as Tactical for melting the tougher mobs.

      I feel like on challenges all four squad members should at least be running flash sticky. The second skill can be whatever that individual squad member wants to use (pulse, station, smart cover, etc).

      Although a mix of two pulses, smart cover, and support station seem to be a great mix of four.

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      • ODogg
        Hall Of Fame
        • Feb 2003
        • 37953

        #4233
        Re: The Division (Xbone/PS4/PC)

        I think it's pretty hilarious so many of you guys are saying there's not enough penalty for dying and/or going rogue in the DZ. Speak for yourself because IMO you're 100% wrong. I played for about 4 hours last night and went up 2 levels from 31 to 33 and then because I died too many times I went back down to level 32!!

        Maybe there's something wrong with risk/reward for dying at a super high level, like over 50 or whatever, but I think if there's anything wrong with the system right now it is TOO HIGH of a penalty for dying right in the DZ.

        I feel like I wasted an entire night of gaming and pretty pissed about it tbh. I should have just played Quantum Break. Ridiculous.
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        • KingTocco
          Fino Alla Fine
          • Jul 2012
          • 3158

          #4234
          Re: The Division (Xbone/PS4/PC)

          Originally posted by ODogg
          I think it's pretty hilarious so many of you guys are saying there's not enough penalty for dying and/or going rogue in the DZ. Speak for yourself because IMO you're 100% wrong. I played for about 4 hours last night and went up 2 levels from 31 to 33 and then because I died too many times I went back down to level 32!!



          Maybe there's something wrong with risk/reward for dying at a super high level, like over 50 or whatever, but I think if there's anything wrong with the system right now it is TOO HIGH of a penalty for dying right in the DZ.



          I feel like I wasted an entire night of gaming and pretty pissed about it tbh. I should have just played Quantum Break. Ridiculous.


          There really isn't a huge penalty though, you still went up a level even after your dying multiple times. Before the change if you went rogue and died you'd lose like 3, 4, 5 levels depending how high you were.

          I'm fine with how it is now because it's fun as hell but IMO there isn't much penalty. You also gain a ton of experience/DZ funds if you go rogue and get away. Even more if you make it to manhunt and survive.
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          • The JareBear
            Be Good To One Another
            • Jul 2010
            • 11560

            #4235
            Re: The Division (Xbone/PS4/PC)

            Originally posted by ODogg
            I think it's pretty hilarious so many of you guys are saying there's not enough penalty for dying and/or going rogue in the DZ. Speak for yourself because IMO you're 100% wrong. I played for about 4 hours last night and went up 2 levels from 31 to 33 and then because I died too many times I went back down to level 32!!

            Maybe there's something wrong with risk/reward for dying at a super high level, like over 50 or whatever, but I think if there's anything wrong with the system right now it is TOO HIGH of a penalty for dying right in the DZ.

            I feel like I wasted an entire night of gaming and pretty pissed about it tbh. I should have just played Quantum Break. Ridiculous.
            Are we talking about dying as rogue? Or just dying in general?
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            • Mabster
              Crunchy
              • Mar 2009
              • 7659

              #4236
              Re: The Division (Xbone/PS4/PC)

              Am I the only one in the thread that hasn't reached 30 yet?

              I'm a smidgen under 28 and still have 3 sections of the map I haven't even touched yet. Finally got some purples dropping but I'm still using soms gear from level 23-25. I remember reading to hit the DZ at 29 for easier gearing up before rolling over to 30 and getting bumped into that group with ****ty under leveled gear. Is that still sage advice?
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              • The JareBear
                Be Good To One Another
                • Jul 2010
                • 11560

                #4237
                Re: The Division (Xbone/PS4/PC)

                Originally posted by Mabster
                Am I the only one in the thread that hasn't reached 30 yet?

                I'm a smidgen under 28 and still have 3 sections of the map I haven't even touched yet. Finally got some purples dropping but I'm still using soms gear from level 23-25. I remember reading to hit the DZ at 29 for easier gearing up before rolling over to 30 and getting bumped into that group with ****ty under leveled gear. Is that still sage advice?
                Honestly I kind of envy you. Part of me wishes I hadn't breezed to 30 so quickly. I really think they expected most people to take close to this long to get there, or at least 3-4 weeks, instead of so many of us being max'd out after 10 days or so.
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                • NightmareBooster
                  Pro
                  • Apr 2013
                  • 547

                  #4238
                  Re: The Division (Xbone/PS4/PC)

                  Start drooling gentlemen:

                  https://www.reddit.com/r/thedivision...ents_released/
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                  • The JareBear
                    Be Good To One Another
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 11560

                    #4239
                    Re: The Division (Xbone/PS4/PC)

                    Originally posted by NightmareBooster
                    Holy cow...

                    Can't wait to gear up with tactician authority and sentrys call

                    They all sound great. Some great possible combos
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                    • Mabster
                      Crunchy
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 7659

                      #4240
                      Re: The Division (Xbone/PS4/PC)

                      Originally posted by The JareBear
                      Honestly I kind of envy you. Part of me wishes I hadn't breezed to 30 so quickly. I really think they expected most people to take close to this long to get there, or at least 3-4 weeks, instead of so many of us being max'd out after 10 days or so.
                      I've enjoyed the time going at my own pace while grinding life missions that get in the way. It's been mostly solo though and I'm missing out on the group fun. I think you said it before Jare, if you had run the majority solo you could see how people get burned out. I'm ready to start playing with some big boys, and running in a group, see how my skills stack up, and get some tips to improve.

                      It looks like my level 30 timing may be **** though. I'm thinking I'll get left behind as people run the new content next week I won't be properly geared for.

                      I spent an hour or so in the DZ yesterday (only my 2nd time in there) and only ran into one other PC. Dick wad came and sniped me from afar while I was battling an NPC group and then went and hid his Lilly *** before I could enact revenge.
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                      • Dogslax41
                        MVP
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 1901

                        #4241
                        Re: The Division (Xbone/PS4/PC)

                        Originally posted by NightmareBooster
                        Hopefully they make those insanely hard to get.

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                        • kingkilla56
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 19395

                          #4242
                          Re: The Division (Xbone/PS4/PC)

                          I like the variety there. Speaks to cool stuff down the line as well.
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                          • ODogg
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 37953

                            #4243
                            Re: The Division (Xbone/PS4/PC)

                            Originally posted by The JareBear
                            Are we talking about dying as rogue? Or just dying in general?
                            I never went rogue last night. I died maybe 10-12 times or so in the DZ, most all by rogues who killed me.
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                            • Burns11
                              Greatness Has Arrived
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 7406

                              #4244
                              Re: The Division (Xbone/PS4/PC)

                              10-12 times, holy ****

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                              • The JareBear
                                Be Good To One Another
                                • Jul 2010
                                • 11560

                                #4245
                                Re: The Division (Xbone/PS4/PC)

                                Originally posted by ODogg
                                I never went rogue last night. I died maybe 10-12 times or so in the DZ, most all by rogues who killed me.
                                Yeah if anything I think being killed by a rogue shouldn't cost you any XP. I think I said that in my post last night but if not, I meant to. Taking someone's loot is a cool game mechanic and I support it being in the game, hurting other players progression is overkill
                                Last edited by The JareBear; 04-08-2016, 01:07 PM.
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