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Re: No Man's Sky
To me it's one of the greatest games I've ever played. I haven't come across anything it doesn't do well. I've put in countless hours and I plan on many more even though I just got Madden from the little I've played I don't see that derailing me.
I also have very little interest in getting to the center in fact I'm working the opposite trying to explore the outer edges as much as possible.Comment
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Same here. Definitely exploring the outer edges and all the surrounding star systems. If I get the the center, I get there, but it is not modus operandi for me.
The beauty of the game, you can play how you want. And if you love exploring, documenting new found things, etc., then it does that very, very well.
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LOL.....Then, it's a good thing that this game is a single-player and not have to rely on others like Evolve did.
This is not an attack Burns, but more of a cerebral discussion.
You getting the platinum trophy means you've ventured longer and farther than most of us here. I do understand your frustrations, especially visiting a planet, seeing the same space stations, manufacturing plants, observatory, and any other abandoned building we've come across. I'm more hesitant to go and look for things as I was earlier knowing what will most likely be there waiting for me. But back to your accomplishment. You had to have done some serious hours? Your feedback could be valuable.
The stories of the 3 aliens stories are interesting. Well 4 if you count the Sentinels. I'm hoping that this isn't a let down. Also hoping the Sentinels have a story too. Thus far, you're the only person I've come across who has somewhat of an end story with all the aliens. Are you saying that picking an alliance with one over the others doesn't bring consequences? Seems there's lots to gain or lose by picking which to alley with. However, I'm not sure of what payoff you were looking for? I'm hoping you can give a little more.
It's unfortunate that you gave up on the "center voyage" and that planet hopping is the end result. I can tell that you lost interest and no longer saw this as a viable game. I guess my question is did the game take 60, 80, 100 hours before you decided it wasn't your thing and you ended it because you were frustrated to reach its finale? Took me about 10 hours to realize what The Division was.
As others have said, the exploration is the fun part of the game. Anything else if done right would be pluses. It's unfortunate that Hello Games weren't up front with multi-player. As some have said, this mix message has brought most of the backlash to their game unfortunately. Reviews are now piling on with the favorite word and many are not exploring more as they should be doing. I'll be playing less of this as the sports games start hitting the counters. I hope Hello Games does make it up by offering us more contents and delivering a VR experience.
If anyone is interested in the the Gek, Korvax, and Vy’keen stories or what makes them tick, here are some bits of info to look/watch.
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For PS4 players, I found this site that seems to track trophies we obtain during our game.
https://www.exophase.com/game/no-mans-sky-ps4/trophies/Comment
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Thanks for the info Picci, I have it noted for the future.
Also, do not get me started on the Media, I mean PR machines, I mean 'objective' media... they are every bit to blame for the hype machine... as they always are more often than not.
Example:
Yet as fickle as people are, they love to prop up the media opinion pieces as confirmation bias, before and after. Head spins, lol.
They need to be held just as accountable for the hype brigade for games.
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The games media and sony are to blame.Thanks for the info Picci, I have it noted for the future.
Also, do not get me started on the Media, I mean PR machines, I mean 'objective' media... they are every bit to blame for the hype machine... as they always are more often than not.
Example:
Yet as fickle as people are, they love to prop of the media opinion pieces as confirmation bias, before and after. Head spins, lol.
They need to be held just as accountable for the hype brigade for games.
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And gamers themselves. Nobody holds the 'hype gun' to one's head.
We have been through this countless times. It is not some new revolutionary thing NMS introduced, lol.
Self responsibility for heeding emotions is still very real.
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You guys are killing me with this blame Sony the media and the gamers for the hype. You're KILLING me.Comment
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Explain...?
What is 'KILLING' you? Or are we just here to act on with cognitive replies?
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Blaming gamers and media is like blaming a diner for ordering the "prime steakburger" then getting a McDonald's cheeseburger. Gamers, the media, and diners can only go by what we are told. It's the job of the person giving out the information to manage expectations. Yes, hype was real, and for sure some expectations were just in people's minds, but some expectations were put out by the developer and, ultimately, if you don't control the message the message controls you.
I'm not sure how many hours I logged since the game doesn't tell me, but I would guess somewhere in the 40 range? Maybe? Again it's hard to say.
As far as I've found, each of the three races tell a history in about 24 little snippets you find at plaques and ruins. Once you get them, that's it, they just repeat. No other story is told, as far as I've seen. You are never made to pick any alliance, and VERY rarely (maybe twice) was there ever a choice that would be one over the other. I was at max rep with all three races without trying. I was just expecting a better story to be told, the ends of them all are very abruptSpoiler
I guess what I wanted more than anything else is some kind of progression as you move towards the center, do something different, instead it's all the same. Also, the more you see, the more you realize all the seams that show how everything isn't so random.
I was actually pretty bored with NMS before last week, last week was just Iron Banner so I played that more and used other times to clean up a couple of the trophies I had left (surviving on an extreme planet and warp jumps). It became pretty apparent early on for me that the exploration part was shallow as I started to see patterns emerge in planets, animals, and plants. Running around gathering the different species' stories was neat, but they run out fairly quick. Then all you are really left with is visit Atlas and warp towards the center. Warping towards the center was painfully slow and boring, the galaxy map is beyond terrible and progress towards the center was mind-numbing. I had to warp like 29 times at the end to clear those last trophies, in those 29 I hit 2 black holes that were all successful and I went from 170k to 150k to center. Doing that 20 more hours was just too much to bear.
I explored plenty, it's just that everything I explored all started looking the same. There's not nearly enough variation and nothing within that to really make anything feel worthwhile after a while. You see the same buildings, the same space stations, the same plants, the same animals, the same planetary geometry, it all just becomes very shallow after a bit.Comment
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Your dense assessment of this "hype" situation is what's killing me. You are bending over backwards to absolve Hello Games and it's leader of any fault in NMS's reaction by the gaming community. And it's very odd. I understand loving the game as is, but this is a level of diehard fandom I've rarely seen, if ever.Comment
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First off, Burns, everything you said in your last few posts is pretty much my experience with the game. Sent it back to Gamefly last Saturday. I gave it quite a bit of my time, but you start noticing repeats way too soon for what the game calls for. I personally gave it a 6/10 and do factor in the crashes. Could be good in the future, but not what I want to play right now. It's cool if others enjoy it.
But Enigma, you gotta be kidding with that "media is to blame" post. Those are reactions from the first E3 it was shown at. General consensus on the internet was that it looked awesome. They mirrored the community. The Polygon before picture is literally just them saying it's their most anticipated game. They can't score it low and be disappointed with it? I'm pretty sure that happened with The Division and the general public. Pretty sure that happened with Evolve to a certain extent. It's going to keep happening. Just because you're really looking forward to something doesn't mean it can't disappoint you in the end.
It's cool you like it, but there's no real reason to try that hard to absolve Hello Games of any criticism.Originally posted by BlueNGoldComment
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For the record, I am talking about hype in general, not components a game has or does not have. That is a different argument, this is zeroing on hype in general in the industry itself.
Where did I say " just the media is to blame"... I said their 'PR like' coverage they do is one part of the problem.
I, speaking of myself, do not buy into hype like I used to when I was younger... learned to keep all my expectations in check. It delivered on everything I personally expected.
You allow yourself to be overhyped, you can take a small portion of that blame, just as much as the seller and the media. A seller is gonna sell, yes call them out on what you feel they misrepresented, but you can't hate on a seller to PR their product, because you subjectively did 'not like thing' ... that makes zero sense. (Now things not included, and were not cleared up, by all means, that is not the argument I was framing.)
Again, especially on a sports forum where every season is built up with hype going in, and we are all okay buying into it. They have shows dedicated to 'buy/sell' hype in sports. Come on, lol.
So if those sportscasters and celebrity analysts can convince you that we can 'buy/sell' hype before we see a product on the field, why can't that same level of 'buy/sell' hype be applied to video gaming as well?
And for the record... I have my issues with the game as well (and make them known on Twitter and their PSN forums for the game), just as we do with ALL games, there is no perfect gaming utopia... How One Should Handle Hype =/= Exonerating Hell Games.
The tribal Us vs Them needs to stop, and tiptoes into realms where on this forum of all places, is not tolerated when it comes to The Show or Madden as example. This is just speaking about how things are hyped, how the media does play it's part (do not think for a minute they are not PR machines when it comes to previews), the game maker's PR, and how us as gamers choose to 'buy/sell' it within the various online communities.Last edited by EnigmaNemesis; 08-25-2016, 09:44 AM.Ⓥ Boston Red Sox | Miami DolphinsComment
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^Dude just let it go, you said it like a page ago.
It's all good
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